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CARUSI.I. PtNNWI.VANIA 171113
717-243-4574
717.766-1690
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January 23, 1998
Anthony L. DeLuca, Esquire
I \3 Front Street
Boiling Springs, PA 17007
David Perkins, Esquire
126 E. King Strecl
Shippensbnrg, PA 17257
RE: Barr vs. Martin; Arbitration .. January 27, 1998 at 9:00 a.m.
Dear Gentlemen:
I have been advised by counsel for the panies in the above matter lhal a settlemenl has been
reached. Therefore the arbitration hearing set for Tuesday is cancelled.
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Louis J. Adler, Esquire
RICHARD BARR Vdlb/a
RICK BARR RACING
Plaintiff
IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF
CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA
V5.
NO. 2332 CIVIL 1997
MICHAEL L. MARTIN, MICHAEL L.
I\fARTIN, INC., MICHAEL L. MARTIN
Vd/b/u MI\II RACING and MICHAEL L.
MARTIN, INC. Vd/b/a MI\II RACING
Defendant
OATH
ar (or ) that we will support, obey and defend the Conslitution of the United States
IS Commonwealth and thaI we will discharge the duties of our office with fidelity.
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JiAnthony L. DeLuca. Esquire
David Perkins, Esquire
A WARD
We, the undersigncd arbitrators, having been duly appointed and sworn (or affirmed), make the following
award: (Note: If damages for dclay arc awardcd, they shall be scparatcly stated.)
Award against Michael L. Martin, Inc. in the amount of $1.750.00.
Arbitrator, dissents. (Insert name if applicable.)
Date of Hearing: January 27. 1998
John H. Broujos, Esquire, Chairman
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Anthony L. DeLuca, EsqUire
Date of Award: January 27, 1998
David Perkins. Esq uire
NOTICE OF ENTRY OF AWARD
Now, the _ day of 199a. at nine o'clock a.m., the above award wa~ enlcred upon the
docket and notice thereof given by mail to the parties or thcir attorneys.
Arbitrators' compensation to be
paid upon appeal: $
Prothonotary
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BOARD OF ARBITRATORS
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RICIIARD BARR tld/b/ll
RICK BARR RACING
Pllllntiff
IN TIlE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF
CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA
V5.
NO. 2332 CIVIL 1997
MICHAEL L. MARTIN, MICIIAEL L.
MARTIN, INC., MICHAEL L. MARTIN
tldlb/ll MMI RACING llnd MICHAEL L.
MARTIN, INC. tldlb/ll MMI RACING
Defendant
OATH
We do solemnly swear (or artinn) that we will support, obey and defend the Constitution of the United States
and the Constitution of this Commonwealth and that we will discharge the duties of our ortice with fidelity.
John H. Broujos, Esquire, Chainnan
Anthony L. DeLuca, Esquire
David Perkins, Esquire
AWARD
We, the undersigned arbitrators, having been duly appointed and sworn (or artinned), make the following
award: (Note: If damages for delay are awarded, they shall be separately stated.)
. Arbitrator, dissents. (Insert name if applicable.)
Date of Hearing: January 27, 1998
John H. Broujos, Esquire, Chainnan
Date of Award: January 27, 1998
Anthony L. DeLuca, Esquire
David Perkins, Esquire
NOTICE OF ENTRY OF AWARD
Now. the _ day of __. 1998, at nine o'clock a.m., the above award wa~ entered upon the
docket and notice thereof given by mail to the parties or their attorneys.
Arhitrators' compensation to be
paid upon appeal: $
Prothonotary
By:
Deputy
RICHARD BARR Udlb/a
RICK BARR RACING
Plaintiff
IN THE COURT OF COMMflllAftJ'f b .
CUMBERLAND COUNTI', PENN~~"IAf1r'J'
V5.
NO. 2332 CIVIL 1997
MICHAEL L. MARTIN, MICHAEL L.
MARTIN, INC., MICHAEL L.
MARTIN Udlb/a MMI RACING and
MICHAEL L. MARTIN, INC. Udlb/a
MMI RACING
Defendant
NOTICE OF HEARING BY BOARD OF ARBITRATORS
YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED that the Board of Arbitralors appointed by the Court in the
above caplioned case will sit for the purpose of lheir appointmenl in the above captioned
action on Tuesday, January 27, 1998 at 9:00 a.m. in the Second Floor Hearing Room of the
Old Cumberland Counly Courthonse, Carlisle, Pennsylvania.
January 8, 1998
OF ARBITRATION:
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H, BROUJOS, ESQUIRE, CHAIRMAN
ANY L. DELUCA, ESQUIRE
DAVID PERKINS, ESQUIRE
COPIES TO:
Gregory J. Kalshlr. E.,quire
AI/Oriley for l'IainlijJ
LOllis J. Adler. Esquire
AI/Oriley for Defendant
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900 Markot Slreol
Lemnyno, Pennsylvania 17043
(717) 763-6133. Fax (717) 763-9425
RICHARD BARR t/d/b/a
RICK BARR RACING
Plaintiff
IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF
CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA
CIVIL ACTION - LAW
vs.
MICHAEL L. MARTIN, MICHAEL L.
MARTIN INC, MICHAEL L. MARTIN
t/d/b/a MMI RACING and MICHAEL
L. MARTIN, INC. t/d/b/a MMI
RACING
Defendants
NO. 97-2332 CIVIL TERM
PLAINTIFF'S REPLY TO NEW MATTER
1. Paragraphs 1 through 19 of Plaintiff's Complaint are
incorporated herein by reference as if set forth in detail.
2. Paragraph 21 is denied. Michael L. Martin individually
was involved in the matters which are the subject of the within
action. After reasonable investigation the Plaintiff is without
sufficient knowledge or information to form a belief as to the
extent of his involvement and proof thereof is demanded at the
time of trial.
3. Paragraph 22 is denied. Plaintiff has registered a
fictitious name as is required by 54 Pa. C.S.A Section 331. By
way of further answer, Defendants have full knowledge of the true
identity of the person who comprised the entity which is alleged
to not be registered as a fictitious name.
4. Paragraph 23 is admitted in part and denied in part. It
is admitted that Delwin Barr is the father of Plaintiff and that
he managed MMI. It is denied that Delwin Barr received all
funds, made all disbursements and maintained all of the records.
Delwin Barr was an employee of Defendants. Any action by Delwin
Barr for MMI was subject to the supervision and control of
Michael L. Martin, either acting individually or as agent for MMI
and/or Michael L. Martin, Inc.
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tshir, Esquire
Plaintiff
PA ID #61967
900 Market street
Lemoyne PA 17043
(717) 763-8133
VERIFICATION BY COUNSEL
I am the attorney of record for the Plaintiff.
I verify that the statements made in this pleading are
true and correct to the best of my knowledge, information and
belief based upon my conversations with the Plaintiff and the
information provided to me by the Plaintiff. I understand that
false statements herein are made subject to the penalties of 18 Pa.
C.S. Section 4904, relating to unsworn falsification to
authorities.
Date:
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RICHARD BARR t/d/b/a
RICK BARR RACING
Plaintiff,
) IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF
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MICHAEL L. MARTIN, MICHAEL L.
MARTIN INC., MICHAEL L. MARTIN
t/d/b/a MMI RACING and MICHAEL
L. MARTIN, INC. t/d/b/a MMI
RACING
Defendants.
CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
I, hereby certify that a true and correct copy of
Plaintiff's Reply to New Matter was served by mailing same, regular
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United States Mail on the th day of S,,\ V , 1997 as follows:
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Louis J. Adler, Esquire
Adler & Claraval
125 Locust Street
P.O. Box 11933
Harrisburg PA 17108-1933
Gregory J. a shir, Esquire
Attorney fo Plaintiff
PA ID #6196
900 Market Street
Lemoyne PA 17043
(717) 763-8133
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Attorney al Law
900 Markel Slreel
Lemoyne. Pennsylvania 17043
(717) 763-6133 . Fax (717) 763.9425
RICHARD BARR t/d/b/a
RICK BARR RACING,
Plaintiff
IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS
CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA
v.
MICHAEL L. MARTIN,
MICHAEL L. MARTIN, INC.,
MICHAEL L. MARTIN t/d/b/a
MMI RACING, and MICHAEL L.
MARTIN, INC. t/d/b/a MMI
RACING,
NO. 97-2332 CIVIL TERM
Defendants
CIVIL ACTION - LAW
ANSWER WITH NEW MATTER
ANSWER
AND NOW, come the Defendants, Michael L. Martin, Michael
L. Martin, Inc., Michael L. Martin, t/d/b/a MMI Racing, and Michael
L. Martin, Inc., t/d/b/a MMI Racing, by and through their attorney,
Louis J. Adler, and thereby aver as follows in response to
Plaintiff's Complaint:
1. Admitted.
2.
Denied.
Michael L. Martin resides at 11 Valley
Road, Etters, Pennsylvania.
3. Admitted.
4. Admitted in part and denied in part. Defendant
Michael L. Martin as an individual has no relationship with MMI
Racing. Michael L. Martin, Inc., t/d/b/a MMI Racing (hereinafter
referred to as "MMI"), admittedly is an entity with a mailing
address of 52 Rear Market Street, Lemoyne, Pennsylvania 17043.
5. Admitted in part and denied in part. It is admitted
that Plaintiff has raced limited late model racing cars at race
tracks in eastern and western Pennsylvania and Maryland. It is
denied that Defendants are in the bU8iness of sponsoring race car
teams. The Defendant, Michael L. Martin individually is not
involved in any way whatsoever with race cars. The Defendant MMI
was the owner of a race car and is in the business of repairing and
repainting race cars, but is not and has not been in the business
of sponsoring race car teams.
6. Denied. Michael L. Martin individually has not been
in any way involved with the within circumstances. It is denied
that Michael L. Martin individually acting on behalf of MMI, made
an arrangement with the Defendant whereby the Plaintiff would be
permitted to race a car owned by MMI. It is admitted that MMI and
Plaintiff entered into an arrangement as more particularly
described herein but not as part of a race car team.
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7. Admitted in part and denied in part. It is admitted
that on or about October 1992, Plaintiff and Michael L. Martin
acting on behalf of MMI and not individually entered into an
arrangement whereby ;:he Plaintiff would be permitted to drive
Defendant MMI' s car in exchange for which MMI would pay the
expenDes therefor and receive any income generated thereby. It is
further admitted that Plaintiff was not to be paid for his
involvement, but on the contrary, benefited by having the use of
the vehicle.
8. Denied. At the time of the arrangement, the
existence of a contract as stated having been denied, Plaintiff
wished to purchase a back-up motor for MMI' s vehicle whereupon
Plaintiff sold his car and motor which were well worn and MMI
understood that the proceeds were contributed to the back-up motor.
It is denied that there was ever any agreement concerning the
replacement of Plaintiff's car or the cash equivalent therefor in
the event of termination or otherwise. The contribution was made
solely for the benefit of Plaintiff in pursuing his drivin~
prowess.
9. Admitted in part and denied in part. Plaintiff was
not induced to enter into any agreement whatsoever as previously
set forth. On the contrary, it is averred that the arrangement was
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as stated aforesaid that Plaintiff was to receive no replacement
car or cash equivalent. It is admitted that he had no monetary
obligation in the arrangement which the parties undertook.
10. Denied. The amounts received by the Plaintiff for
the sale of his racing car and car motor are denied for the reason
that after reasonable investigation the Defendants are without
knowledge or information sufficient to form a belief as to the
truth of the averments and proof thereof is demanded at the trial
of the cause hereon.
11. Denied. The amount contributed by Plaintiff is
denied for the reason that after reasonable investigation the
Defendants are without knowledge or information sufficient to form
a belief as to the truth of the averments and proof thereof is
demanded at the trial of the cause hereon. It i:.. believed and
hence averred that any sums deposited by Plaintiff were utilized to
purchase the back-up motor as set forth above. The existence of
any oral agreement as stated or the reliance thereon by Plaintiff
or any agreement to reimburse Plaintiff in the event of termination
or otherwise is denied for the reasons set forth above which are
incorporated herein by reference.
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12. Admitted in part and denied in part. It is admitted
that on or about March 26, 1992, and through the summer of 1996,
Plaintiff drove the race car owned by MMI. It is denied that he
was a driver for Defendants' racing team in that there was no
"team". The number of races in which Plaintiff drove is denied for
the reason that after reasonable investigation the Defendants are
without knowledge or information sufficient to form a belief as to
the truth of the averments and proof thereof is demanded at the
trial of the cause hereon.
13. Denied. After reasonable investigation the
Defendants are without knowledge or information sufficient to form
a belief as to the truth of the averments and proof thereof is
demanded at the trial of the cause hereon.
14. Denied. The Defendant Michael L. Martin
individually received no prize money in that Michael L. Martin
individually was not involved. It is believed and hence averred
that some of the prize money was iirected to the account of MMI
which was managed by Delwin Barr. The amount of Plaintiff's
winnings, whether all of the money was directed to the account of
MMI or whether the Plaintiff received any of the prize money, is
denied for the reason that after reasonable investigation the
Defendants are without knowledge or information sufficient to form
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a belief as to the truth of the averments and proof thereof is
demanded at the trial of the cause hereon.
15. Denied. It is denied that any agreement was
terminated in that there was no agreement as stated. It is
believed and hence averred that the arrangement of the parties was
terminated several months prior to December, 1996. The existence
of a race team is further denied as stated aforesaid.
16. Denied. The existence of an oral agreement is
denied. Plaintiff's performance as a race car driver was
unsatisfactory in that his work did not measure up to the standard
of the equipment which was at his disposal, and further it is
believed and hence averred that on numerous occasions he was not
even able to participate because of inadequate preparation.
17. Admitted in part and denied in part. It is admitted
that the Defendant MMI has refused to reimburse Plaintiff for any
sums demanded. The existence of an oral agreement as outlined by
Plaintiff having been previously denied, it is denied that the
refusal was a breach of any such agreement. Buy way of further
answer thereto, it is averred that Michael L. Martin individually
was not involved in any transaction between the parties.
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18. Admitted in part and denied in part. It is denied
that MMI sold any parts OWNED by Defendant and therefore no
proceeds from the sale of such parts were retained. The existence
of a race car team or oral contract as stated is denied. It is
denied that Plaintiff purchased any car accessories for any such
team. Whatever expectations Plaintiff may have had or purchases
that he made are denied for the reason that after reasonable
investigation Defendants are without knowledge or information
sufficient to form a belief as to the truth of said averment and
therefore proof is demanded at the trial of the cause hereon. It
is admitted that Defendants have refused to reimburse Plaintiff for
any such purchases if any were in fact made as there was no
obligation to do so.
19. Denied. The oral agreement as stated having been
denied as stated, and the existence of a racing team having been
denied it is denied that plaintiff extended any sums whatsoever to
any such team or that Defendant is entitled to any sums whatsoever.
WHEREFORE Defendants demand that the within action be
dismissed together with cost of suit.
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I verify that the statements made in the within
Answer and New Matter are true and correct. I understand that
false statements herein are made subject to the penalties of 18 Pa.
C.S. ~4904. relating to unsworn falsification to authorities.
Date: June 9. 1997
MICHAEL L. MARTIN, INC.
BY:~
ichael L. Martin
President
RICHARD BARR t/d/b/a
RICK BARR RACING,
Plaintiff
IN THIl COURT OF COMMON PLEAS
CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA
v.
MICHAEL L. MARTIN,
MICHAEL L. MARTIN, INC.,
MICHAEL L. MARTIN t/d/b/a
MMI RACING, and MICHAEL L.
MARTIN, INC, t/d/b/a MMI
RACING,
NO, 97-2332 CIVIL TERM
Defendants
CIVIL ACTION - LAW
CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
I hereby certify that I am this day serving a true and
correct copy of the foregoing Answer and New Matter upon the person
and in the manner indicated below, which service satisfies the
requirements of the Pennsylvania Rules of Civil Procedure, by
depositing same in the United States mail, with first class
postage, prepaid, from Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, as follows:
Gregory J. Katshir, Esquire
900 Market Street
Lemoyne, PA 17043
Respectfully submitted,
ADLER !<
CLARAVAL
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Date: June 9, 1997
By:
Louis J. Adler, Esquire
PA Attorney 1.0. No. 07040
P.O. Box 11933
125 Locust Street
Harrisburg, PA 17108
(717) 234-3289
Attorney for Defendants
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RICK BARR RACING
Plaintiff
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IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF
CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA
CIVIL ACTION - LAW
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MICHAEL L. MARTIN, MICHAEL L.
MARTIN INC, MICHAEL L. MARTIN
t/d/b/a MMI RACING and MICHAEL
L. MARTIN, INC. t/d/b/a MMI
RACING
Defendants
COMPLAINT
AND NOW, comes Plaintiff, Richard Barr, t/d/b/a Rick Barr
Racing, by and through his attorney, Gregory J. Katshir, Esquire,
with the following Complaint as follows:
1, Plaintiff is an adult individual residing at 308 Glenn
Drive, Camp Hill, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania 17011.
2. Defendant Michael L. Martin, (hereinafter "Martin") is an
adult individual residing at 584 Grandview Drive, Lewisberry,
Pennsylvania.
3. Defendant Michael L. Martin, Inc. (hereinafter "Inc.") is
a duly organized Pennsylvania corporation with its registered
office at RD #1 Etters, Pennsylvania 17319 and a mailing address
of 584 Grandview Drive, Lewisberry, Pennsylvania. Defendant
Martin is the registered chief executive officer of Inc.
4. Defendant Martin t/d/b/a MHI Racing and/or Defendant Inc.
t/d/b/a MMI Racing (hereinafter "MMI") is an entity with a
mailing address of 52 Rear Market Street, Lemoyne, Pennsylvania
17043.
5. Plaintiff has raced limited late model racing cars at
race tracks in Central and Western Pennsylvania, and Maryland.
Defendants are in the business of sponsoring race car teams.
6. On or about September, 1992, Martin, acting on behalf of
himself as an individual or as duly authorized agent for MMI
and/or Inc., contacted Plaintiff to attempt to induce Plaintiff
to become a driver for his/its race car team.
7. On or about October, 1992, Plaintiff and Martin, acting
on behalf of himself as an individual or as duly authorized agent
for MMI and/or Inc., entered into an oral contract whereby
Plaintiff agreed to serve as driver for the race team and Martin,
MMI and/or Inc. would pay any and all expenses associated with
racing, including but not limited to race entrance fees, car
parts, racing car and fuel. Plaintiff was not to be paid for his
services.
8. Additionally, pursuant to their contract, Plaintiff
agreed to sell his racing car and car motor and contribute the
proceeds of the sale to the racing team, with the express
agreement by Martin, MMI and/or Inc. that, in the event that the
business relationship would terminate in the future, Plaintiff
would receive a replacement racing car or cash equivalent thereof
as a reimbursement.
9. Plaintiff was induced into entering into the agreement
with Defendants based upon the representations that he would
receive a replacement racing car, or cash equivalent, and that he
would have no monetary obligation in the business relationship
with Defendants.
10. On or about May 14, 1993, Plaintiff sold his racing car
for an amount of Four Thousand ($4,000.00) dollars. Plaintiff
sold his car motor for an amount of Two Thousand ($2,000.00)
dollars.
11. Plaintiff contributed six Thousand ($6,000.00) dollars,
the proceeds of the sale of his racing car and car motor, to
Defendants' racing team by paying for fuel, car parts, and
entrance fees. This amount was contributed by Plaintiff in
reliance upon the oral agreement whereby Martin, Inc. and/or MMI
agreed to reimburse Plaintiff with a racing car, or cash
equivalent thereof, in the event of a termination of the
agreement,
12. From on or about March 26, 1993, and through the summer
of 1996, Plaintiff served as race driver for Defendants' racing
team. Plaintiff drove in approximately 120 races.
13. Over the term of the agreement, Plaintiff won three (3)
races, finished in the top five forty-one (41) times and in the
top ten eighty-five (85) times.
14. Over the term of the agreement, Plaintiff won
approximately Thirty-Five Thousand ($35,000.00) dollars in prize
money. All prize money was directed to Defendants. Plaintiff
did not personally receive any of the prize money.
15. On or about December, 1996, Defendants unilaterally
terminated the agreement between the parties. Defendants no
longer wished for Plaintiff to serve its race team as race car
driver.
16. Plaintiff has performed and satisfied his part of the
oral agreement.
17. Defendants, however, have failed and refused to
reimburse Plaintiff for his monies extended in reliance upon the
oral agreement. Said failure to reimburse is a breach of the
oral agreement between the parties.
18. Further, Defendants sold other car parts owed by
Plaintiff and retained the proceeds. Plaintiff also purchased
additional car accessories for the race team with the expectation
of reimbursement, based upon the oral contract. Defendants have
failed and refused to reimburse Plaintiff for such purchases.
19. Over the course of the agreement, Plaintiff extended an
amount in excess of Eight Thousand ($8,000.00) dollars to
Defendants' race team. Based upon the oral agreement entered
into between the parties, Plaintiff is entitled to an amount of
damages in excess of Eight Thousand ($8,000.00) dollars,
including interest, but not to exceed Twenty Five Thousand
($25,000.00) dollars, from Defendants.
WHEREFORE, Plaintiff requests damages in an amount not to
exceed $25,000.00.
Respectfully submitted,
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Gregory Katshir, Esquire
Attorney for Plaintiff
PA 1D# 61967
900 Market Street
Lemoyne PA 17043
(717) 763-8133
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1 RICHARD BARR t/d/b/a
RICK BARR RACING,
2 Plaintiff,
IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS
CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA
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NO. 97-2332 CIVIL TERM
4 MICHAEL L. MARTIN,
MICHAEL L. MARTIN, INC.,
5 MICHAEL L. MARTIN
t/d/b/a MMI RACING and
6 MICHAEL L. MARTIN, INC.,
t/d/b/a MMI RACING,
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9 Deposition Of: RICHARD BARR
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Taken by:
Defendants
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Before:
Pamela L. Packer
Court Reporter-Notary
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Date:
August 14, 1997, 9:30 a.m
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Place:
ADLER & CLARAVAL
125 Locust Street
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania
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18 APPEARANCES:
19 GREGORY J. KATSHIR, ESQUIRE
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1 STIPULATION
2 It is hereby stipulated by and between
3 the respective parties that signing, oealing,
4 certification and filing are waived; and that all
S objections except as to the form of the question are
6 reserved until the time of trial.
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8 RICHARD BARR, called as a witness, being duly
9 sworn, was examined and testified, as follows:
10 BY MR. ADLER:
11 Q You are Rick Barr; is that right?
12 A Correct.
13 Q And, Mr. Barr, I'm Larry Adler. I'm
14 representing Michael L. Martin, Inc., and also Michael
lS Martin involved in this individually. And have you ever
16 been involved in a deposition before?
17 A No.
18 Q All right. Well, the deposition is that you
19 are under oath and you've just been sworn in, and your
20 testimony will be taken concerning the matter at issue. I
21 will state questions to you. If you don't understand the
22 question, make sure you understand the question before you
23 answer. If you don't know the answer to the question,
24 indicate you don't know the answer to the question.
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2 enough so that you're sure to understand the question.
3 And, of course, you'll be answering the questions
4 truthfully. Do you understand all that?
5 A Yes.
6 Q Have you taken any medication this morning?
7 A No.
8 Q Is there any reason why you don't believe that
9 you could answer the questions which are about to be posed
10 to you?
11 A No.
12 Q Now, we have a court reporter here who's
13 taking down the testimony stenographically and so only one
14 of us can speak at a time. So wait till I complete my
15 question and I'll try to wait till you complete your
16 answer, although I'll probably violate that more than you
17 will. So we'll try to do that so that she can get the
18 testimony down properly based upon what is going on here
19 today.
20 Now, in preparation for this deposition today
21 have you spoken with your attorney?
22 A Yes.
23 Q And when did you do that?
24 A Off and on a couple times this week.
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2 A Yes.
3 Q Now, would you state for me your present
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308 Glen Road, Camp Hill.
How long have you lived there?
About three years.
And do you own or do you rent?
Own.
And are you married?
Yes.
What's your wife's name?
Christine.
And what is your occupation?
I'm a plumber.
And for whom do you work?
For myself now.
How long have you worked for yourself?
Two weeks.
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Leonard's Plumbing and Heating.
How long did you work there?
Almost two years.
And where is Leonard's Plumbing and Heating?
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Are they still in business?
Yes.
Did you leave there at your initiative?
Yes.
Are you a registered licensed plumber?
Yes, I am. I'm a master plumber.
Now, this car involves -- this case involves
9 racing cars and a relationship which is alleged that you
10 had with Michael L. Martin, Inc., and you've also alleged
11 that the relationship is with Michael L. Martin. When did
12 you first meet Mr. Martin?
13 A It had to be the end of the '92 racing
14 season.
15 Q All right. Now, in the pleadings I believe it
16 talks about September or October of '92. Is that -- well,
17 no. I'm sorry. Please strike that. Where did you meet
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Well, I worked for Ron Caldwell Plumbing at
20 the time who subcontracted work through Mike. And he knew
21 of my racing because he sponsored another car and
22 basically saw that, you know, I wasn't in the best
23 financial shape .is far as my car wasn't top dollar, but
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3 A Well, actually I've known him before that.
4 Q When did you first know him?
5 A When I first started working for Ron Caldwell.
6 Q When was that?
7 A That would have been probably 1987, '88,
8 somewhere in that range.
9 Q All right. But did you know him in any way in
10 connection with the racing situation?
11 A No.
12 Q When did you first get to know him with
13 respect to the racing situation?
14 A The year of the '92 season.
15 Q How did you run into him there?
16 A He was sponsoring another car at the time.
17 Q And you were racing at that time?
18 A Yes.
19 Q For whom were you racing?
20 A For Rick Barr Racing, for myself.
21 Q All right. When did you start racing for Rick
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4 Q All right. But you had one engine and one
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6 A Right.
7 Q So again what was your relationship with Mike
8 Martin as far as racing is concerned at the end of 1992?
9 A Well, Mike first approached me about possibly
10 sponsoring me because I had actually questioned him about
11 sponsoring me for some money as far as, you know,
12 supporting the racing team. And then he wasn't interested
13 at the time because he was sponsoring another driver. And
14 then at the end of that year he actually called me and
15 said he wanted to help out in some way and first started
16 to talk about sponsoring me, but then it turned into what
17 if I don't sponsor you and you just -- I'll just buy the
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And that's what happened; isn't it?
Right. He bought the car.
He didn't sponsor you, he just bought the car.
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All right. But that was not the relationship
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9 did you decide that he would buy a car and you would
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It was the end of the '92 season because we
12 went to a race track to watch the car race one last time
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All right. So were you driving for Mike in
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17 A No, not at all.
1a Q So when did you start actually?
19 A ' 92? '93, beginning of '93.
20 Q The beginning of ' 93?
21 A Is when I first started driving for him I
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2 Q When did he do that?
3 A I'm not sure exactly the date, but it was
4 before the '93 season. It was over the winter, beginning
5 of '93 in January or the end of '92.
6 Q And that's when you started to drive; is that
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B A Well, yeah. We actually stripped the car
9 apart, repainted it, got it ready for the '93 season.
10 Q Now, your understanding was -- why did you
11 want to enter into this arrangement?
12 A It was a good opportunity, you know, to drive
13 for someone else, and racing drivers drive for everybody
14 else all the time.
15 Q It was a good opportunity because it was
16 better equipment; wasn't it?
17 A It could be, yes.
1B Q And so that's what interested you, that you
19 would have the opportunity to drive a better car than you
20 were driving?
21 A Correct.
22 Q Now, however, you weren't to get any money out
23 of this transaction; is that right?
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No. I drove for free.
You drove for free because this gave you an
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6 A Correct.
7 Q So when was the car ready to start driving?
8 A Usually the first race was the end of March,
9 beginning of April.
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And you undertook to drive at that time then;
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12 A Right.
13 Q And did you drive during the 1993 season?
14 A Yes.
15 Q But you hadn't driven at all under this
16 arrangement in 1992?
17 A Correct.
18 Q Now, you had been driving from 1990 to 1993
19 when you started to drive Mike's car; is that right?
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21 Q And what was your record in terms of wins and
22 places and so forth up until the time that you drove
23 Mike's car?
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2 Q When you say the first year, what was the
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4 A That was my first year of racing.
5 Q In 1990?
6 A '90. Well, actually it was -- yeah,
7 around '90, somewhere in that range. I'm not completely
8 sure of the date.
9 Q Okay.
10 A And then the second year I finished 14th in
11 points at Silver Spring, and from that point on that's
12 when, beginning of '93 season when Mike took over.
13 Q Now, after you started driving Mike's car, did
14 your record improve or did your experience stay about on
15 the same level as it was before you were driving that car?
16 A It was improving.
17 Q Did his superior equipment have anything to do
18 with that?
19 A It helped.
20 Q And do you know who actually owned Mike's
21 car? Did Mike own that car individually or was it his
22 corporation that owned the car?
23 A I'm not sure.
24 Q So if it turns out that it was his corporation
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2 A No, I wouldn't.
3 Q As far as who paid the expenses for the car
4 and who received the income, you don't know whether Mike
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7 A No.
8 Q So if it turns out his corporation did, then
9 it was really the corporation with whom you were dealing;
10 isn't that right?
11 A Yes.
12 Q Now, have you discussed that with your father
13 at all as to whether or not it was Mike individually or
14 whether the corporation was involved?
15 A No.
16 Q So how long did you drive the car that was the
17 car that Mike first provided for you? When I say Mike,
18 I'm actually referring to the corporation, but he was the
19 president of the corporation. So how long did you drive
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You had nothing to do with that?
Absolutely.
And the second car, how would you describe the
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And when was that car available for use?
By the end of the '93 season. I probably
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20 A Correct.
21 Q Now, up until this time when you had the first
22 car, you still had your car and its motor; isn't that
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3 A Yeah.
4 Q So the beginning of '93 you had driven for
5 Mike and you still had your car?
6 A Correct.
7 Q Were you using your car at all?
8 A No.
9 Q It was just sitting there?
10 A Yup.
11 Q So what happened with respect to your selling
12 your car; how did that happen?
13 A What, I don't understand.
14 Q Well, you sold your car; didn't you?
15 A Yes.
16 Q And you sold the motor; is that right?
17 A Correct.
18 Q And you sold them separately; isn't that
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What did you get for the car?
About $4,000.
Who did you sell it to?
His name is Todd Burkheimer.
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3 Q Now, as a matter of fact -- when did the sale
4 of your car and this engine take place? Was it in the
5 Spring of '93?
6 A It was the Spring of '93 that he gave me a
7 deposit on the car.
8 MR. KATSHIR: If I may interject to clarify
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11 Q Okay. Well, was the motor and the car sold at
12 two different times?
13 A Correct.
14 Q When did you sell the car? Let's talk about
15 that. When did you get the deposit for the car; was that
16 in the Spring of '93?
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18 Q You were already driving for Mike?
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20 Q And you were already working on this new car
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3 Q When did you get the rest of the money for the
4 car after you got the deposit?
5 A That had to be in July or August of '93.
6 Q And at that point you were already building
7 the new car; is that right?
8 A I'm not sure.
9 Q Now, did you talk to Mike about -- before you
10 sold the car and before you sold the engine, did you talk
11 to Mike about that that's what you were going to do?
12 A Yes.
13 Q Did you tell Mike that you wanted to do that
14 and contribute that money to the MMI operation?
15 A He asked me to contribute to it.
16 Q Did he indicate to you that -- he asked you to
17 contribute it; is that what you're saying?
18 A Yes.
19 Q Well, whose idea was it to sell the car and
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That was before the '93 season started because
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9 Q So back in '92 you talked to him about selling
10 the car and the engine; is that what your testimony is?
11 A It was more like the beginning of '93.
12 Q But that was after you had talked to him about
13 driving his car for him; is that right?
14 A Yeah.
15 Q So at the beginning there was no talk about
16 selling the car and selling your engine, it was just a
17 matter of your driving for him at the beginning?
18 A At the beginning I believe, if I can remember
19 correctly, that it was within -- when we first started
20 talking it wasn't too long after that that he asked me
21 about doing that.
22 Q Now, this racing business is a pretty
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Your father knows, doesn't he, though?
He should.
But you never discussed it with him?
No.
And to this day you don't know whether MMI
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5 Q Would you have driven the car or do you think
6 the arrangement would have gone forward even if you hadn't
7 contributed the proceeds from your car and your engine?
8 A I'm not sure.
9 Q So you don't know whether that would have been
10 a condition for this arrangement or not?
11 A No.
12 Q So you agreed to do that; is that what you
13 did?
14 A Yes.
15 Q Then you undertook to sell the car and the
16 engine; is that right?
17 A I sold it.
18 Q When did you first take steps to try to sell
19 the car and the engine that you had?
20 A It had to be around the beginning of the '93
21 season.
22 Q So how long did it take you before you got a
23 buyer for the car and the engine?
24 A Two months I think.
25 Q Was Mike bugging you to do that during that
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2 that and you were just doing what you could do?
3 A No. He would question me, see if there was
4 anybody interested in the car.
5 Q Now, during that period he was spending a lot
6 of money on this operation; wasn't he?
7 A A good amount.
8 Q Now, he didn't indicate to you, did he, what
9 would happen if this operation terminated; did he?
10 A Yes, he did.
11 Q When did he do that?
12 A Around the '93 season.
13 Q Early or late?
14 A Early.
15 Q Before you sold your car or afterwards?
16 A I'm not sure exactly.
17 Q So therefore you don't know whether it was
18 before a buyer or afterwards?
19 A I think it was before.
20 Q But you're not sure?
21 A No.
22 Q And didn't he indicate that you were investing
23 this money at your own risk and if things didn't work out
24 that would be the end of it?
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2 A He said that if I invested my money to help
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That chassis weren't a problem because we
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11 A Basically that's about it.
12 Q In your Complaint you've said that he
13 specifically indicated to you that - - let me get the
14 language here.
15 MR. ADLER: Do you want to show him - - do you
16 have a copy of the Complaint with you? I just don't want
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21 Q So the last part of paragraph eight says, and
22 just look at the last page of the document, that's what we
23 call a verification, you said in there -- you said that
24 you you've read what's in here and that it's true and
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5 A Yes.
6 Q Now, at the end of paragraph eight it says
7 that you said that in the event that the business
8 relationship would terminate in the future Plaintiff would
9 receive a replacement racing car or cash equivalent
10 thereof as a reimbursement.
11 Now, you've indicated that certain language
12 that you wouldn't be without a ride. I mean is that the
13 only thing that Mike said and from that language you're
14 interpreting it as you've stated in paragraph eight?
15 A My understanding of the situation was that I
16 went into the deal with a race car, I would come out of
17 the deal with a race car and a raci.ng team.
18 Q All right. But you're saying to me that that
19 was your understanding maybe, but you're saying to me that
20 the only language that provided you with that
21 understanding of what was in your mind was the language
22 which you recited here a few minutes ago, that that's all
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4 A Not replacement.
5 Q And he didn't say to you if I don't give you a
6 car, I'm going to give you cash equivalent of a car, he
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9 Q He didn't use that language?
10 A Not that I recall.
11 Q And the only language he said was that you
12 wouldn't be without you ride, and I forget the other thing
13 that he said which you testified to earlier, that's the
14 only thing he said to you; isn't that right?
15 A I'm not a hundred percent sure of the
16 conversation as far as a couple of years ago. But I was
17 under the understanding that when I went into the deal,
18 and whatever words that he put them in, that I would not
19 be without a ride, which meant to me that I would not be
20 without a race car if our situation ever ended.
21 Q But you had already -- even before any of
22 those conversations took place you were already going to
23 move forward with driving the car that Mike provided;
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2 wasn't a condition for your doing this; was it?
3 A Repeat the question.
4 Q In other words -- let me rephrase the
5 question. The end of 1992 you had decided to enter into
6 this arrangement to drive Mike's car; is that right?
7 A Correct.
8 Q You had entered into that arrangement because
9 this would have been a better car and better equipment for
10 you; isn't that right?
11 A Correct.
12 Q You were both moving forward with that
13 arrangement even at the end of 1992; weren't yoU?
14 A Correct.
15 Q This conversation about you'll never be
16 without a ride and selling your car, that happened
17 sometime after you had both decided that you were going to
18 move forward with this arrangement that you would drive
19 Mike's car; didn't it?
20 A It was -- these arrangements to the best of my
21 knowledge were done before he purchased the car, before he
22 purchased it, which was at the time of the F-1 race car.
23 Q The new car?
24 A No, it wasn't new.
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2 A No, he didn't have a car yet.
3 Q He didn't have a car yet. And was your
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8 Q But you were already going to move forward
9 before you had committed to sell your car and provide the
10 money for MMI; isn't that right?
11 A MMI waen't established yet.
12 Q Well, whatever entity Mike was using. I mean
13 you were going to do that and whether or not you sold your
14 car and contributed the money, that wasn't a condition for
15 doing this, was it, initially?
16 A Yes.
17 Q You think it was?
18 A Yes, I do.
19 Q So from the very beginning it's your testimony
20 that if you hadn't sold your car and put the money into it
21 he wouldn't have let you drive his car?
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2 Q Are you sure?
3 A Yes.
4 Q Now, in your Complaint you indicate that you
5 sold your car for $4,000, which you've said here today so
6 you're asking for that $4,000. And you also said that you
7 sold your motor for $2,000. But not you're not sure
8 whether it was 1500 or $2,000; right?
9 A Yeah.
10 Q So if it was $1500 you're asking for $500 too
11 much; isn't that right?
12 A No, I'm pretty sure it was $2,000.
13 Q But if it turns out it wasn't $2,000 then it
14 would only be $1500 for the motor; isn't that right?
15 A Correct.
16 Q Now, was there anything else, any other damage
17 that you say that you're looking for? I mean, you know,
18 now I know this is lawyer talk and everything, but you ask
19 for an amount not to exceed $25,000, but the only things
20 that you really talk about in here are the $4,000 and the
21 2,000 or 1500. Did you contribute anything else that
22 you're seeking reimbursement for?
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2 at flea markets.
3 Q But that was done dudng the course of this
4 operation; wasn't it?
5 A Yes.
6 Q I\nd again, you don't know whether Mike was
7 sustaining a big lOlw or not but there was a ] ot of money
8 being spent on this operation?
9 A Correct.
10 Q And so why do you think you were entitled to
11 that money back?
12 A My undol"UtilndJng was that I put in my share of
13 the money to help to make il better racing team, I was just
14 trying to help mako a better racing team.
15 Q Okay. And you had the benefit of that for a
16 couple years; didn't yoU?
17 A Yes.
18 Q So why would you get your soda machine and
19 your parts sales which happened during the course of this
20 operation back when the agreement terminated?
21 A Because it was money that I p;lt into the team.
22 I drove fot' nothing. I didn't get paid for nothing.
23 0 Did he ever agree to give you the soda money
24 or the soda machine money back and parts back?
25 1\ No.
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1 Q Did he even know about the soda machine?
2 A No.
3 0 So he didn't know about the soda machine?
4 A I don't think so.
5 Q So he couldn't have agreed to reimburse you
6 for the sale of the soda machine?
7 A Right.
8 Q Did he know that you sold the soda machine and
9 put the money into the business?
10 A I'm not sure.
11 Q Did he know that you sold parts and put those
12 into the business?
13 A I don't know.
14 Q All right. So what was the total value of the
15 soda machine and the parts and anything else that you're
16 seeking compensation for?
17 A I'm not sure of the exact total amount.
18 Q Well, how are we supposed to know what you're
19 entitled to?
20 A My main concern was to basically get
21 reimbursed for the race car, the motor.
22 Q So what you're really looking for is $6,000 or
23 $5500 depending on the actual cost of that motor; isn't
24 that right?
25 A Plus there were all the wheels that were sold.
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The wheels for the race car.
Were they your wheels?
Yes.
How much were the wheels?
6 A I had probably anywhere from 12 to 15 wheels
7 at about you're looking at a used price because they
8 were used wheels -- at about a hundred dollars apiece, $90
9 apiece.
10 Q Did Mike know that you sold those wheels?
11 A They really weren't sold until right before
12 the whole thing ended.
13 Q So you knew the th~ng was ending?
14 A No, I didn't know it was ending then. I
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MMI did.
Did Mike sell the wheels?
MMI did.
Did Mike know the wheels were sold?
I don't know.
22 Q Is this something between you and your father?
23 A No.
24 Q Well, if Mike didn't know about the wheels,
25 what was MMI -- I mean who sold the wheels?
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2 know, more than likely it was my dad sold them at MMI.
3 0 Did he tell you he sold the wheels, your dad?
4 A He told me he sold them, yeah, once they were
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Correct.
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11 financial stuff. I have no idea of that stuff.
12 Q So was there anything else that you're looking
13 for in terms of money?
14 A No.
15 Q That's it?
16 A Yes.
17 Q Now, was one the advantages for the owner of a
18 car to generate business for MMI? Was that one of the
19 objectives of having you drive this car and for paying all
20 the expenses for this car? In other words MMI was in a
21 business; right?
22 A Yes.
23 Q What was their business?
24 A Building race car components and chassis.
25 Q So when MMI had a car that they drove, wasn't
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2 A Correct.
3 Q That's the advantage of like sponsoring a
4 baseball team or something; right?
5 A Correct.
6 Q So it's important of the image that MMI and
7 its car and its driver had; isn't that right?
8 A Correct.
9 Q And did everybody know that you were driving a
10 car owned by MMI?
11 A Yes.
12 Q So whatever you did reflected on MMI; didn't
13 it?
14 A Correct.
15 Q Now, did you ever have any problems at any of
16 the racetracks that any altercations or anything that
17 might have reflected negatively on MMI?
18 A Such as?
19 Q Fights?
20 A Possibly.
21 Q Well, did you or didn't you? You may not know
22 whether it reflected badly, but you know whether you had
23 any fights at the track.
24 A Not fights. Maybe arguments.
25 Q Would that happen often?
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1 A No.
2 Q How often?
3 A Once or twice maybe a year, not even always.
4 It was very inconsistent. If someone pushed -- rammed you
5 into the wall, you'd be upset.
6 Q Did you ever have a problem at silver Spring
7 in 1996?
8 A Yes.
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9 Q What was that all about?
10 A A guy and myself got it together on the
11 racetrack. And when I pulled into the pit, I pulled
12 forward and then was backing into the trailer and he ran
13 over the front end of my car while I was in the pits.
14 Q So what did you do?
15 A I didn't do anything. Because what happened
10 was his crew came over and started yelling at me while I
17 was inside the car. Someone took a swing at me while I
18 was sitting in the car. And at that time my brother had
19 jumped in because I was in the car buckled up, and there
20 was actually a fist fight then, yes.
21 Q Was there any other time that you had a fist
22 fight?
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What was her name?
Eitner.
She was on the other side; wasn't she?
Yes.
Do you know who broke her arm? Was it your
I believe so. They said. I didn't see it.
9 Q What's his name?
10 A Robert Barr.
11 Q So were there any other incidents like that
12 that you can recall?
13 A No.
14 Q And did you ever qualify for any races that
15 you didn't show up for, that you were scheduled for and
16 then just didn't make it, like at Hagerstown?
17 A No. We -- actually I wasn't qualified the
18 very last race that I raced for Mike. It was a two-day
19 show. On Saturday I missed qualifying by one spot. And
20 on the way home the lug on the trailer broke so we had to
21 take the wheel off and bring the car back to the speedway
22 and set the trailer there overnight, lock it up.
23 Knowing that we did not quality, we did not go
24 back the next day. But someone blew a motor and then
25 they -- evidently they were calling me out. I wasn't
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2 people there that said that I would have made the race
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6 A Yeah.
7 Q Do you know what that expense is?
8 A ~.
9 Q Now, your father was running the financial end
10 of this MMI; wasn't he?
11 A Yes.
12 Q Was he doing that from the time that you got
13 there or started with them until the situation terminated?
14 A He took over whenever MMI started the
15 business.
16 Q You don't know when that was?
17 A June sometime of '93.
18 Q All right. Do you know if he was on the
19 payroll of MMI?
20 A I believe so.
21 Q You don't know how much he made though I
22 guess?
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2 Q And he didn't indicate to you how much money
3 the operation cost or how much it was losing?
4 A No.
5 Q But you had a pretty good idea that it was a
6 cash cow so to speak; is that right? In other words that
7 a lot of money was going into it and that the prize money
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9 right?
10 A That's correct. In racing you don't make a
11 lot of money.
12 Q You lose a lot of money?
13 A Sometimes.
14 Q And this operation was no better in that
15 respect than any other; is that right, as far as you
16 know?
17 A As far as I know.
18 Q It might have been worse as far as you know?
19 A Yup.
20 Q Now, how were things going at the beginning of
21 1996 as far as your driving for MMI? I mean how was
22 that were you doing well, when did the '96 season
23 start?
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1 Q How long was that?
2 A The car was actually ready in like a week or
3 two, but then the motor had to be checked to make sure it
4 wasn't hurt. So we had to wait on the motor then.
5 Q How long was that?
6 A Couple weeks.
7 Q And so were you racing again then after April
8 of 1996?
9 A Yes.
10 Q In other words there was no termination of the
11 racing program in the Spring of 1996?
12 A Correct.
13 Q And did you have any discussions with Mike at
14 that time as to how things were going and whether he was
15 satisfied with your performance and so forth?
16 A He didn't actually say about my -- if he was
17 satisfied with my performance.
18 Q Was he dissatisfied with anything that he
19 indicated to you?
2U A Just that about the crashes were costing a lot
21 of money to repair them.
22 Q In other words he was dissatisfied -- he
23 indicated to you that he was dissatisfied with the amount
24 of money that was being spent on this operation; is that
25 right?
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1 A Yeah.
2 Q Now, is it your testimony that you drove
3 through the Summer of 1996?
4 A When the car was at the track. We sat out for
5 two or three months without racing then.
6 Q Why was that?
7 A Because the motors weren't ready.
8 Q And it wasn't that Mike was dissatisfied with
9 the operation with the cost of it, it was because the
10 motors were not ready as far as you know; is that right?
11 A As far as I know.
12 Q He didn't discuss with you the fact that he
13 was unhappy with the situation?
14 A That's correct.
15 Q All right. So what happened? You did drive
16 some then in the summer of '96; is that right?
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And did you drive in the Fall of 1996?
Yes.
And when did you stop driving?
October.
22 Q What happened?
23 A That was the race where we -- the last race of
24 the year was the race where I did not qualify, missed by
25 one spot, and the next day they called me as an alternate
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2 Q And Mike was upset about that?
3 A I'm sure he was.
4 Q All right. So what happened? Did you have a
5 discussion with him at that point?
6 A Not at that point.
7 Q All right. You didn't drive after that?
8 A That's correct.
9 Q And so did he tell you you weren't going to
10 drive anymore or what happened?
11 A Well, actually he didn't actually tell me. He
12 had my dad tell me at first, and then about a month later
13 Mike and I got together, sat down, and tried to talk
14 things out.
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What did your dad tell you?
That he was fired and I was without a ride.
And that was right after the Hagerstown
sometime after that, yes.
Were you surprised?
Kind of.
22 Q You had no indication up until that point that
23 there were problems or dissatisfaction?
24 A Well, I thought there might be dissatisfaction
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2 Q Did you have a conversation with Mike then
3 subsequent?
4 A After we were terminated, yes.
5 Q And what was that conversation?
6 A I was basically asking him if I could have the
7 car have a car to race because I came into the deal
8 with a car.
9 Q What did he say?
10 A He told me that he couldn't do that, but maybe
11 we could work something out where if he went and asked all
12 the sponsors for the money and he would keep the money and
13 I would put their names on the car and maybe he could work
14 something out that way.
15 Q And what did you say to that?
16 A I said that's fine if you can work something
17 out like that.
18 Q So he had other sponsors for this car?
19 A Correct.
20 Q So he wasn't the sponsor, he was the owner, he
21 had other sponsors; is that right?
22 A Correct.
23 Q By sponsor you mean you put somebody's name on
24 the car; is that right?
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1 Q As an advertisement?
2 A Yes.
3 Q Do you know who the sponsors were?
4 A Yes.
5 Q Who were they?
6 A American Aluminum, Westbrook Well Drilling.
7 Q McClure?
8 A David McClure, he sponsored I believe it
9 was the '93-'94 season. He sponsored us, David F.
10 McClure. Ron Caldwell also sponsored us at that time.
11 Q So when was this conversation that you had
12 with Mike?
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16 A No.
17 Q Did you call him to ask him subsequent to that
18 if, you know, how the arrangement was coming and whether
19 he was getting -- I mean all you were interested in was
20 that car to drive; is that right?
21 A I just wanted the car like I went into the
22 deal with, a car, wheels and tires, enough to go racing
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24 Q So did you call Mike again when you hadn't
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2 Q Why not?
3 A Because the way the conversation was going I
4 was under the understanding that nothing was going to
5 happen from it.
6 Q So then you went to your lawyer?
7 A Yes.
8 Q Is your lawyer related to you?
9 A Yes.
10 Q How is he related?
11 MR. KATSHIR: That doesn't have anything to
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14 BY MR. ADLER:
15 Q Now, in the demands that your lawyer made to
16 Mr. Martin, he talked about a welder. Was there a welder?
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19 when I asked you before about what you contributed; did
20 you?
21 A Because I got the welder back, but he used it
22 for three years.
23 Q But you got the welder back?
24 A Correct.
25 Q Are you using the welder?
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1 A Yes.
2 Q Do you know how much money that you won during
3 the time that you were driving ~like' scar?
4 A An estimate.
5 Q What do you think?
6 A Twenty-five -- I believe what was stated,
7 approximately 35,000.
8 Q You were going to say 25,000; weren't you?
9 You're not sure?
10 A I'm not.
11 Q Could have been 25,000?
12 A I don't know. I'm just going by -- I don't
13 know what the financial statements were from MMI.
14 Q What were you going by when you said you won
15 $35,000 during this period of time? Were you just
16 guessing?
17 A Yes, for the most part because I know -- I
18 have an idea what the payoffs were, but I never kept a
19 record of them.
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20 Q But you believe even with that income that
21 there's a lot of money invested that was never recovered
22 from this operation? In other words it lost. $35,000
23 didn't pay for this operation?
24 A I don't know.
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2 checking account or were you paid cash or what happened?
3 A I was paid cash for that car.
4 Q How about for the motor?
5 A There was deposits made to me and they were
6 put into my checking account.
7 Q So if you looked at your checking account you
8 could tell whether you got $1500 or $2,000 for the motor;
9 right?
10 A Yeah. Some of it was done as far as the motor
11 the balance was giving me the money in payments and it was
12 put into the checking account.
13 Q At different times?
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19 Q Have you looked to try to reconstruct whether
20 you got 1500 or $2,000?
21 A Yes.
22 Q And you haven't been able to figure it out?
23 A No.
24 Q So you're not driving now; is that right?
25 A Correct.
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3 Q Now, does your father work now; do you know?
4 A Yes and no.
5 Q Tell me the yes first.
6 A Well, I know that he helps out at Leach's
7 Automotive, but I don't believe it's a job.
8 Q You think he just helps out?
9 A Yes.
10 Q He volunteers?
11 MR, KATSHIR: If I may interject. What
12 does --
13 MR. ADLER: Okay.
14 BY MR. ADLER:
15 Q You didn't keep a record of your finishes
16 in '93 , '94, '95 and '96?
17 A The records that I have on them were from like
18 the yearbooks at the end of the year where they give your
19 finishes.
20 Q Right. So you do have those yearbooks?
21 A I have for two years I do.
22 Q Would you provide those to your lawyer so he
23 can provide me a copy of those?
24 A Sure.
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3 Q If I may interject to clarify, you indicate
4 the you've never been deposed before; is that right?
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8 A Correct.
9 Q -- this deposition. If you take a look at the
10 answer that was provided by Mr. Martin. We're looking at
11 the end of paragraph nine, it indicates that it is
12 admitted that he had no monetary obligations in the
13 arrangement the party undertook. He being you. Is that
14 correct? Is that your understanding?
15 A Right.
16 Q That means no monetary obligations at all; is
17 that right?
18 A Correct.
19 Q Now, you indicated that you entered into this
20 deal, it was an opportunity -- I guess Mr. Adler indicated
21 to you that it was an opportunity for you to improve your
22 prowess; is that right?
23 A Yes.
24 Q Was it also because you had expenses and you
25 felt you would have no expenses with the races; is that
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1 right?
2 A Correct.
3 Q Now, you indicated that you are looking to be
4 reimbursed for the cost of your car and the motor, from
5 the sale of those, cash from the sale of the car parts; is
6 that right?
7 A Correct.
8 Q When you entered the agreement back in the end
9 of '92 and you started in 1993, was there any other
10 additional moneys that you contributed that you felt that
11 you would receive in return from Mr. Martin?
12 A Yeah. There was -- I sacrificed everything I
13 had.
14 Q For instance, did you have a checking account?
15 A Correct.
16 Q That money was taken out of?
17 A Correct. Yes.
18 Q Do you wish to be reimbursed for the money
19 that did you spend money from your checking account on
20 this racing venture?
21 A Yes, I did.
22 Q Are you looking to be reimbursed for that?
23 A Yes.
24 Q The money that you received from the sale of
25 the car was in cash?
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Did you receive all that money, you
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4 A Yes.
5 Q Do you
6 you received it?
7 A I gave
8 what happened.
know what happened to that money after
it to MMI, and after that I don't know
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9 Q Okay. You had additional cash expenses? Did
10 you have additional cash expenses associated with this?
11 A Yes.
12 Q There were instances where you paid cash?
13 A Yes.
14 Q And you're looking to be reimbursed for that
15 money also?
16 A Yes.
17 MR. KATSHIR: I have nothing further.
18 BY MR. ADLER:
19 Q Well, how much in the checking account did you
20 contribute?
21 A Everything's in the records.
22 Q I don't have them. What records?
23 MR. KATSHIR: Let's go off the record.
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1 Q Do you know how much it is? Did you look at
2 the records?
3 A I looked through them.
4 Q Well, how much do you think it was that you
5 paid them that you contributed?
6 A I'm not sure at this time. I didn't actually
7 add them all up.
8 Q Was it thousands of dollars, hundreds of
9 dollars?
10 A Probably a couple thousand.
11 Q And you gave that money to your father, you
12 didn't give it to Mike?
13 A No.
14 Q You gave it to your father?
15 A Right. Who worked for MMI.
16 Q I know. I understand. What were the
17 circumstances. Explain that to me. How did you happen to
18 give him cash? What was that all about?
19 A Well, you know, we were spending the money
20 basically out of my checking account at first till Mike
21 decided to dissolve that.
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1 A Yeah. He gave me $2500 the beginning of the
2 year to put scales and stuff like that. Plus I had other
3 money of my own that was put into it.
4 Q So this went into your checking account?
5 A Into Rick Barr Racing.
6 Q Then you paid the expenses out of that
7 checking account?
8 A' Correct.
9 Q Do you still have a Rick Barr checking
10 account?
11 A No.
12 Q You're saying that your expenditures exceeded
13 the receipts that Mike gave you; is that right?
14 A I don't understand.
15 Q In other words you paid out more than the
16 $2500 that he gave he?
17 A Correct.
18 Q This was before MMI was set up; is that right?
19 A Before and right up to the point to when MMI
20 started.
21 Q Did Mike ever get those -- did he ask you to
22 spend this money?
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24 Q How?
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2 stronger racing team.
3 Q And he never said you were going to get that
4 money back; did he?
5 A I believe so. My belief was that I would or
6 else I wouldn't have put the money in.
7 Q And when did he tell you you were going to get
8 it back?
9 A Before the racing season, right before the
10 racing season started.
11 Q So you're saying that these documents you gave
12 us show us how much money you put into MMI; is that right?
13 A That's correct.
14 Q But your agreement was, your initial
15 understanding was that Mike was to pay the expenses and
16 you were to drive the car; isn't that right?
17 A That's correct.
18 Q And that's what you alleged in your Complaint;
19 isn't that right?
20 A That's right.
21 Q And so how did it happen that you were putting
22 money in if that wasn't what your understanding was?
23 A He asked me to do that to help make a better
24 racing team.
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2 Q And who would you provide -- is this the first
3 time you provided information to anybody about those
4 expenditures?
5 A Yes.
6 Q So Mike may not have known about them
7 specifically; is that what you're saying?
8 A He knew I was using my checking account.
9 Q When you contributed money to MMI, how much
10 did you contribute to MMI, do you know, into their
11 account?
12 A Not totally, no, because I didn't keep the
13 record books.
14 Q But when you gave them money it would be to
15 your father that you would give the money; is that
16 correct?
17 A Correct.
18 Q You never gave it to Mike?
19 A Not that I -- I'm not sure.
20 Q And did those checks come out of your Rick
21 Barr Racing account?
22 A Yes, they did, and cash.
23 Q And that's the information you've given us
24 here today?
25 A That's right.
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1 Q As far as your expenses on the road, is that
2 information in here also?
3 A On the road?
4 Q When your attorney asked if you had to pay
5 some expenses out of your pocket, those are the same
6 expenses that you're testifying about now?
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11 Q Initially you gave this -- you contributed
12 this money from your checking account with the full
13 understanding that you would receive that back?
14 A Correct.
15 Q Mr. Martin had -- did he have full say of what
16 was going on with the operation?
17 A Yes.
18 Q And he knew that you were spending money to
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2 It is hereby stipulated by and between
3 the respective parties that signing, sealing,
4 certification and filing are waived; and that all
5 objections except as to the form of the question are
6 reserved until the time of trial.
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DELWIN C. BARR, called as a witness, being
9 duly sworn, was examined and testified, as follows:
10 BY MR. ADLER:
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Delwin C. Barr.
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13 Q Mr. Barr, I'm Larry Adler and I'm representing
14 Mr. Martin Michael L. Martin, Inc., actually in this
15 lawsuit which has been filed by your son against MMI and
16 Michael L. Martin, Inc.
17 This is a deposition where we're attempting to
18 elicit information concerning the background of the
19 matter. It's called a deposition. You're under oath.
20 There is a court reporter who's taking the testimony down
21 stenographically. Have you ever taken a deposition
22 before?
23 A No.
24 Q So I'll be asking you questions and you'll be
25 responding to those questions. If you don't understand a
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2 hear me, indicate you don't hear me. If you don't know
3 the answer, indicate you don't know the answer.
4 We'll expect you to answer the questions fully
5 and truthfully, although it's not necessary to go beyond
6 my question with respect to what the response is that you
7 give. Are you taking any medication now?
8 A Yes, I am.
9 Q Did you take medication this morning?
10 A Yes, I did.
11 Q What kind of medication are you taking?
12 A I'm on it's a -- it's called Zocor.
13 Q What's that for?
14 A That is for cholesterol.
15 Q But that doesn't affect your ability to answer
16 any of the questions?
17 A None whatsoever.
18 Q And there's no reason why you wouldn't be able
19 to answer the questions fully and truthfully today?
20 A No.
21 Q Now, in preparing for this deposition today,
22 did you discuss this matter with your son's attorney?
23 A We had a conversation.
24 Q Have you had any conversations in the last
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9 A Not really.
10 Q So you didn't discuss the merits of what we
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12 A No idea whatsoever.
13 Q But you discussed the procedure here today,
14 how this might --
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All right. So you all came over together?
Yes.
And did he indicate what might be asked of
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17 Q Where do you live, Mr. Barr?
18 A I live at 1550 Williams Grove Road,
19 Mechanicsburg.
20 Q How long have you lived there?
21 A I've lived there since late December.
22 Q Late December of 1996?
23 A Yes.
24 Q Are you married?
25 A Yes.
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Yes.
Where did you live before that?
I lived at 82 Rear Hummel Avenue in Lemoyne.
Whose building was that?
That was Michael Martin.
And did you pay rent for that building?
No.
But you're paying rent now?
Yes.
11 Q Do you work now?
12 A Well, I'm self-employed. I do some contract
13 work, mechanical work.
14 Q Are you a mechanic?
15 A Mechanic and welder.
16 Q And who are some of your clients?
17 A Leach's Automotive, I do side work for them.
18 Q How long have you been doing that?
19 A Just a couple months.
20 Q What did you do before that?
21 A Pardon?
22 Q What did you do before that?
23 A I worked for Mike.
24 Q Well, you stopped working for Mike in November
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2 Q And so have you been doing this contract work
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And when did you start doing the contract
It was just probably in June we started doing
Who's we?
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When did the unemployment end?
That ended around I think May.
Then you started to do this contract work; is
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18 A Yeah.
19 Q Now, in this case your son has alleged a
20 certain agreement and understanding with Michael L.
21 Martin, Inc. Now, what was your relationship with Michael
22 L. Martin, Inc., and MMI? When did you first get to know
23 Mike Martin?
24 A Well, when I first got to know Mike it was
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2 Q When was that?
3 A This was in about November of '92.
4 Q You didn't know Mike at all before that?
5 A I knew of him. I didn't personally know him
6 other than seeing him at the racetrack.
7 Q Where did you first meet him?
8 A First meet him?
9 Q Right.
10 A It would have to have been that day when we
11 went down to Lincoln Speedway to see this race car that he
12 bought.
13 Q In other words the first time you ever met him
14 was when you knew that your son was going to enter into
15 some kind of arrangement with him; is that right?
16 A Right.
17 Q They were talking about it?
18 A Um-hum.
19 Q Now, so did you discuss the arrangement that
20 your son had or did you hear them discussing the
21 arrangement when you went down to see Mike at the speedway
22 in November 1992?
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2 A I knew what transpired after he bought the car
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4 Q All right. So tell me what role you played
5 from November of '92 till what you're describing here as
6 moving the car into Rick's shop from November of '92 when
7 you first had the first conversation?
8 A It was basically a week or so, within the next
9 couple of days that he moved the car into the shop.
10 Q And when you say he moved it, Mike moved the
11 car?
12 A I think Mike. I don't remember how it was
13 transported.
14 Q So it was moved into Rick's shop; is that
15 right?
16 A That's correct.
17 Q Rick had a shop?
18 A Um-hum.
19 Q Where was that shop?
20 A That was in Lemoyne. I don't remember the
21 exact address. It's the rear of the farmer's market
22 there, State Street.
23 Q Where were you working at that time?
24 A I was unemployed. No. I was working for Carl
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2 A Building race car chassis.
3 Q Was there any conversation between November
4 of '92 and a couple of weeks later when the car was moved
5 into the shop that you overheard with respect to Mike as
6 to what any arrangement was between Mike and your son?
7 A Not in November or December, no.
8 Q What happened after the car was moved into the
9 shop? What did you know about or what did you observe
10 with respect to what Rick did, what Mike did?
11 A I don't understand your question.
12 Q All right. The car was moved into the shop.
13 All right? Did Del start to drive the car after that? I
14 mean Rick.
15 A Racing season didn't start until I guess March
16 the following year.
17 Q So did you have any involvement between
18 November or December of '92 and the racing season in '93
19 with respect to the car?
20 A Yes, I did. I actually dissembled the car and
21 got it ready for the racing season for the next year.
22 Q So you worked on it?
23 A Yes.
24 Q Who asked you to do that?
25 A Mike and Rick.
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2 their arrangement was?
3 A Other than Mike owned the car and Rick was
4 driving.
5 Q That's all you knew about it?
6 A That's all I knew.
7 Q And you knew that the car had to be fixed up
8 and you were working with them to fix it up; is that
9 right?
10 A That's correct.
11 Q So what happened then when the racing season
12 started? Did anything change with respect to the
13 arrangement or anything else as far as you observed?
14 A It was pretty much the same at that point.
15 Q All right. And what was your involvement
16 beginning in the Spring of 1993 with respect to the car,
17 Rick and Mike?
18 A Well, I would basically maintain the car and
19 set it up and did the work on it.
20 Q You didn't get paid for that; did yoU?
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Because it was my son.
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We discussed starting MMI, which we officially
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I don't understand.
What did you -- I mean you say you started
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13 started soliciting work, repair work, and we were
14 designing the chassis that we were starting to have ready
15 by the end of the summer.
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That was metal fabrication and race car
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Correct.
And you would pay the expenses?
That's correct.
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It was a losing proposition; wasn't it?
Well, at times it was, yeah.
Now, what about the race car expenses; would
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14 A They were after a point. I think it was late
15 July that Mike wanted us to close out Rick's accOtlnt and
16 put it all into MMI at that point.
17 Q Did you have anything to do with Rick's
18 account up until that time?
19 A No, sir.
20 Q Rick indicated that he paid some expenses out
21 of that account for the car. Do you know anything about
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24 some of the stuff we would order in we would bill to his
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2 involved in that?
3 A Not at this time, no.
4 Q Now, after MMI was up and running, did Rick
5 contribute any money to MMI; did he give you any checks to
6 put into MMI to cover expenses?
7 A Yes. Late July he closed out his checking
8 account, and I remember him giving us a check, whatever
9 was there that we put in.
10 Q Was that the only time that he did that that
11 you recall?
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Into MMI?
Yes.
Other than when he sold his car, that came in
15 in late summer sometime.
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I don't remember. I think he sold the car
18 total for 4,000. But I don't remember how it came in. I
19 know he had a deposit earlier than that and balance later,
20 but I don't remember the figure.
21 Q How about the motor?
22 A Yeah. I know he sold that. I don't remember
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3 Q And did it go into the MMI account?
4 A Well, if it was before, it would go into
5 Rick's account. If it was afterwards, it would have went
, into the MMI account.
7 Q So you don't remember it going into the MMI
8 account?
9 A I remember transferring of funds and stuff.
10 Without looking back on the records, I can't tell you.
11 Mike would have those records. You'd have all those.
12 Q Did MMI ever write any checks to Rick for
13 reimbursement for parts or expenses?
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17 A He may have written one or two.
18 Q So you did most of it?
19 A Yes.
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22 A That's correct.
23 Q Now, was MMI just a name that you were using;
24 is that right? Was it a company; do you know what was
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And that never changed as far as you know?
Not as far as I know.
So then through the Spring of '93 and after
10 MMI started Rick was driving the car and you
11 were -- beginning in June or July you were running the MMI
12 bookkeeping; is that right?
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Were you a paid employee?
I was at a point. I forget what the date was
16 when I started getting paid. At first I didn't.
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What was your salary?
I was making a hundred and fifty a week.
Was this a full-time job for you?
Yes, sir.
And how was Rick's performance as a driver
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2 '93 -- let's see --'93 couple feature wins. And I forget
3 where he finished in points, but I know as far as
4 earnings, if I remember correctly, it was somewhere around
5 nine or $10,000 in race winnings. Mike was very satisfied
6 with it.
7 Q In '93?
8 A Um-hum.
9 Q But it was still a losing proposition; wasn't
10 it? MMI lost money in 1993?
11 A Probably not -- when we started MMI, Mike and
12 I discussed it and Mike knew up front it would probably be
13 three years at least to get the thing rolling.
14 Q And that was both the race car operation and
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16 A Well, no the race car operation was put into
17 it later. MMI itself started out as a separate thing, and
18 then the race car Mike put in later in the middle of the
19 summer.
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'93.
22 Q All right. So all throughout the life of MMI
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Even at the end he never complained.
And what about in 1995; did the situation
7 A Then we changed to a new league. We went to a
8 super league model design and run in Hagerstown.
9 Q And what was the result of that?
10 A It was very good for a rookie year. He was
11 running till late in the year he was running ninth in
12 points and until we had a blown motor and after that it
13 knocked him back. I think he finished the first year 14th
14 in points.
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Yes.
In the same way?
Um-hum.
And there continued to be losses?
Um-hum.
And the expenditures for the racing continued
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3 A Well, they were set up through his
4 accountants. Everything was documented. Every penny was
5 accounted for and everything balanced at the end of every
6 month.
7 petty cash was run through a separate petty
8 cash ledger that took care of any cash in, cash out.
9 Checks were applied to accounts by a computer which took
10 care of the accounts receivable. And everything was done
11 right there on the computer.
12 Q At the end of every year would you reconcile
13 the books with Michael L. Martin, Inc.'s accountant?
14 A No, I wouldn't personally. I would give
15 everything to Russ out in his office and he took care of
16 all of that.
17 Q When you say gave everything, what would you
18 give him?
19 A All the monthly reports.
20 Q So you generated those monthly reports?
21 A Um-hum.
22 Q And you did that on a computer eventually?
23 A Um-hum.
24 Q But initially you didn't do it on a computer,
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2 manual thing, but invoices and inventory was always kept
3 on the computer from day one because he used my personal
4 computer until it broke down and then he had to buy one.
5 Q Every month or you would give them the monthly
6 statement and that's all you would do?
7 A Not a monthly statement. They got
8 everything. They had the checkbook, which starting in the
9 first of ' 94 was a One-Write system. That showed
10 everything in and out of the checkbook. They got that
11 sheet. They got the separate ledger for petty cash. They
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13 his office.
14 In '94 it had been changp.d. His accountant,
15 in-house accountant did it all. The next year Russ had me
16 give him the stuff monthly and Mike's wife put it into the
17 computer out there. And then end of '95 they never gave
18 me my starting figures and everything left for six months
19 just sit there and piled up. And finally Russ came in
20 after they got me the correct starting figures, the
21 adjustments for year end, and him and I caught it up to
22 date.
23 Q And their accountant never made an audit of
24 the situation or anything?
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7 A No.
8 Q Now, through 1995 you were not privy to any
9 conversations with your son Rick and Mike about what their
10 arrangement was; were you?
11 A Through when?
12 Q Through 1995. In other words from 1992 when
13 the thing started through 1993, through 1994, through
14 1995, you never were privy to any conversations with Mike
15 and Rick as to what their arrangement was between them?
16 A I was involved with most of their
17 conversations. Usually the three us would sit down and
18 talk things out.
19 Q Did you ever have any conversations about what
20 the arrangement was other than Rick was the driver and
21 Mike was the owner?
22 A That's correct.
23 Q Did you ever have any conversations other than
24 that Mike was paying the expenses and that Rick was doing
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2 when we started out the year Mike had just bought that car
3 and the third race we blew the motor that came with the
4 car and that put us back right at the start. And then
5 Rick sold his motor and his car and Mike encouraged him to
6 put the money into the team and make it stronger.
7 Q Now, were you there when that happened?
8 A Well, I know Mike and I discussed it because
9 Rick's concern was being without a car if something would
10 happen with the deal with him and Mike.
11 Q Well, tell me about what your discussion was
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What time was it first of all?
Gee, I don't remember.
16 Q Do you know what year it was?
17 A It was '93 when he sold the car.
18 Q When Rick sold the car?
19 A Right.
20 Q So tell me about your discussion with Mike.
21 A We were talking about Rick putting money into
22 the team to help make it stronger because of the motor
23 problem already that early, and exact words, I'll try to
24 put it the exact way, I told Mike that Rick was just a
25 little reluctant to sell that car and not have a ride.
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2 have a car.
3 Q And what did you understand that to mean?
4 A Well, I understood that to mean if he put the
5 money in he would always have a car, or if something
6 happened there he'd come out with some sort of a car of
7 equal value of what he sold.
8 Q Now, this conversation that you had with Mike
9 didn't take place until 19 -- probably the spring of 1993,
10 is that right, when Rick was putting the money in; is that
11 right?
12 A It was whenever Rick was selling the car, in
13 that time frame.
14 Q But Rick was already committed to drive Mike's
15 car at that point before any discussion took place as far
16 as you know?
17 A That's correct.
18 Q Excuse me?
19 A Yes.
20 Q Again that discussion took place after Rick
21 was already committed to driving the car owned my Mike and
22 Mike was already committed to provide the car for Rick to
23 drive? In other words you don't know about any
24 discussions before they started their arrangement that
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2 A Before any -- I don't know of any discussions.
3 Q Okay. So they were already involved with each
4 other when this discussion about whether or not Rick was
5 going to put money in took place; is that right?
6 A Um-hum.
7 Q You have to say yes or no.
8 A Yes. Sorry.
9 Q What other discussions did you have with Mike
10 about the arrangement between Rick and Mike, any others?
11 A I can't remember any.
12 Q So that was the only one and it was once in
13 the Spring of 1993 probably?
14 A Spring or early summer.
15 Q Spring or early summer of 1993?
16 A Yeah.
17 Q Was it -- if you remember was it after Rick
18 put the money in or before Rick put the money in?
19 A Before Rick put the money.
20 Q If you remember was it before he had sold his
21 car or after he sold his car?
22 A I don't think the car was sold. I think he
23 probably had the deposit on it though and sold it at that
24 point.
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2 your testimony is that you understand that Rick was
3 putting some money into the operation?
4 A That's correct.
5 Q And was it your understanding that he was
6 supposed to get that money back or you don't know anything
7 about that?
8 A I really don't know much about it other than
9 what Mike said about always having a car, so !'m assuming
10 that was one.
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12 or in the operation of MMI after 1995 in 1996?
13 A Any change in what way?
14 Q Were there any other employees of MMI?
15 A Yes.
16 Q And when did that happen?
17 A Well, Mike hired Carl Billet and Tom Madden.
18 That was in April of '96 I believe.
19 Q And what was the purpose of that if you know?
20 A Well, the purpose was that Carl called and
21 didn't like where he was and wanted to know if we wanted
22 to grow, and I gave it to Mike and he took it and rolled
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3 Q Did you do that kind of work too?
4 A Yes.
5 Q And that increased business in the company
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7 A Yes.
8 Q But the c.Jmpany was still losing money?
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And in the Spring of 1996 was Rick driving?
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14 us -- we started out the year and I guess we had some bad
15 luck. We had a crash or two, and Mike wanted to hold off
16 until after we got into the new building. And then I
17 think we had a total -- in '96 we might have ran nine or
18 ten races.
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21 Q Was there any period of time when you weren't
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2 Q When was that?
3 A That was in May, June, July.
4 Q All right. Did you race in April as far as
5 you recall?
6 A I think we did.
7 Q So there wasn't much racing going on in May,
8 June and July?
9 A That's correct.
10 Q And were there any unusual expendi.tures made
11 at that time except for the move? In other words was
12 there additional equipment purchased or motor or
13 carburetor or anything?
14 A No. That was all equipment and stuff that he
15 purchased for down at the new shop.
16 Q All right. So did racing begin again in
17 August of 1996?
18 A I think it was late August, September. I
19 don't remember exactly.
20 Q And was there a lot of racing or just a
21 limited amount of racing?
22 A Very limited.
23 Q Then what happened? When did the situation
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There was little racing in the Summer and Fall
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Yeah. There wasn't a lot.
All right. But the business continued to
That's correct.
And you continued to operate within the
That's correct.
You were still doing the books, you were still
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Um-hum.
And Tom was working there?
Right.
Then was there racing in October of 1996 as
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There was supposed to be. It was scheduled
18 but I had a heart attack, and I know that cancelled the
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When did you have a heart attack?
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October 16th sticks in my mind as the date.
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How long were you in the hospital?
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One week.
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One week. How long were you off from work?
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Well, I was supposed to stay off, but we had
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2 of the hospital on Friday and I came back in very limited
3 in my duties on Monday to get ready for the open house.
4 Q So that would have been in November or that
5 would have been in October still?
6 A The open house was in November. So it was a
7 week after my heart attack I came back, and it was roughly
8 a week or two left to get ready for the open house.
9 Q Are you recovered from your heart attack?
10 A Um-hum.
11 Q So what happened after the open house; did you
12 continue to work there?
13 A Um-hum.
14 Q Rick continued to drive?
15 A Yeah. In fact the day of the open house we
16 had the car stripped down trying to sell it. Mike came in
17 and set down in my office and said do you want to put this
18 motor in and try to qualify for the Hub City. I said sure
19 and we did. The only exception was at the open house I
20 had sold our used carburetor and I told Mike, I said we'd
21 have to buy a carburetor to run in.
22 Q How much did you get for the used carburetor?
23 A I think around five, fifty, something like.
24 Q $550. Was Mike upset over that?
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And so then what happened after that with
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4 out of MMI?
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From what point?
After November of 1996.
Not after November. I wasn't there.
All right. When did you cease being there?
I forget the exact date -- 18th, 13th,
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Tell me what happened.
Mike fired me.
What did he say?
He really didn't say too much other than they
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Was he upset over anything in particular?
If he did, he didn't tell me.
What happened with respect to Rick at that
Well, at that point Mike set in my office and
21 told me he'd get Rick the same deal that he gave Carl
22 exactly. And that never happened. Because Rick and him
23 had a meeting later, and he didn't do a thing for him.
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What was the deal that he gave Carl?
He was providing Carl with a chassis and body,
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And was Carl driving at that point?
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Um-hum.
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So you don't know what happened with Rick and
5 Mike after that I guess?
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No, sir.
B conversations?
9 A Anything I would know would be hearsay.
10 Q From Rick?
11 A At that point, yeah.
12 Q As far as you know, again the arrangement with
13 Rick and Mike, Mike was the owner and Rick was the driver;
14 right?
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Correct.
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They had sponsors, there were other sponsors
17 on the car; weren't there?
18 A Correct.
19 Q And you helped to maintain the car?
20 A That's right.
21 Q Did your other son, Rick's brother, do
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But not after that?
It could have been '94 too.
Would you go to the races to help with the
Yes.
That's part of your responsibility?
Um-hum.
Where did you maintain the bank account for
Whatever he set it up. It was Dauphin
12 Deposit.
13 Q Was it always just the one account; is that
14 right?
15 A Yes.
16 Q When you left, the account was still there?
17 A Yes.
18 Q Were you a signatory on that account?
19 A Yes.
20 Q Was Mike a signatory on that account?
21 A Yes.
22 Q Was anybody else a signatory on that account
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