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ROSE E. ECKENRODE/LADRA E. SMITH
PLAINTIFF
IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF
CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA
v.
01-6879 CIVIL ACTION LAW
ANDREA SA Y/MARK SAY
DEFENDANT
IN CUSTODY
ORDER OF COURT
AND NOW, Friday, December 14,2001 , upon consideration of the attached Complaint,
it is hereby directed that parties and their respective counsel appear before Jacqueline M.Vemey, Esq. ,the conciliator,
at 4th Floor, Cumberland County Courthouse, Carlisle on Wednesday, January 16, 2002 at 8:30 AM
for a Pre-Hearing Custody Conference. At such conference, an effort will be made to resolve the issues in dispute; or
ifthis cannot be accomplished, to define and narrow the issues to be heard by the court, and to enter into a temporary
order. All children age five or older may also be present at the conference. Failure to appear at the conference may
provide grounds for entry of a temporary or permanent order.
The court hereby directs the parties to furuish any and all existing Protection from Abuse orders,
Special Relief orders, and Custody orders to the conciliator 48 hours prior to scheduled hearing.
FOR TIlE COURT,
By: /s/
Jacqueline M. VernlO'. Esq. 6Y'^'
Custody Conciliator
The Court of Common Pleas of Cumberland County is required by law to comply with the Americans
with Disabilites Act of 1990. For information about accessible facilities and reasonable accommodations
available to disabled individuals having business before the court, please contact our office. All arrangements
must be made at least 72 hours prior to any hearing or business before the court. You must attend the
scheduled conference or hearing.
YOU SHOULD TAKE TIllS PAPER TO YOUR ATIORNEY AT ONCE. IF YOU DO NOT
HAVE AN ATIORNEY OR CANNOT AFFORD ONE, GO TO OR TELEPHONE TIlE OFFICE SET
FORTIl BELOW TO FIND OUT WHERE YOU CAN GET LEGAL HELP.
Cumberland County Bar Association
2 Liberty Avenue
Carlisle, Pennsylvania 17013
Telephone (717) 249-3166
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LAURA E, SMITH,
: IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF
: CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA
Plaintiffs
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MARK SAY,
: NO. Ol- ("t?19..
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Defendants
: IN CUSTODY
ORDER OF COURT
AND NOW,
, 2001, upon consideration of the attached Complaint, it is
hereby directed that the parties and their respective counsel appear before
, the conciliator, at
on the
day of
,2001-, at
o'clock,
_.m., for a Pre-Hearing Custody Conference. At such conference, an effort will be made to resolve the
issues in dispute; or if this cannot be accomplished, to define and narrow the issues to be heard by the
Court, and to enter into a temporary order. All children age five or older may also be present at the
conference. Failure to appear at the conference may provide grounds for entry of a temporary or
permanent order.
FOR THE COURT:
By:
Custody Conciliator
The Court of Common Pleas of Cumberland County is required by law to comply with the Americans with
Disabilities Act of 1990. For information about accessible facilities and reasonable accommodations
available to disabled individuals having business before the court, please contact our office. All
arrangements must be made at least 72 hours prior to any hearing or business before the court. You must
attend the scheduled conference or hearing.
YOU SHOULD TAKE TillS PAPER TO YOUR LAWYER AT ONCE. IF YOU DO
NOT HAVE A LAWYER OR CANNOT AFFORD ONE, GO TO OR TELEPHONE
THE OFFICE SET FORTH BELOW TO FIND OUT WHERE YOU CAN GET LEGAL
HELP.
Office of the Court Administrator
Cumberland County Court House, Fourth Floor
Carlisle, P A 17013
(717) 240-6200
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ROSE E. ECKENRODEI
LAURA E. SMITH,
: IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF
: CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA
Plaintiffs
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ANDREA SA YI
MARK SAY,
: NO. OI-~r7~
Defendants
: IN CUSTODY
COMPLAINT FOR CUSTODY
L The plaintiffs are Rose E. Eckenrode, residing at 644 Peach Glen-Idaville Road, Gardners,
Pennsylvania and Laura E. Smith residing at 612 Pine Road, Carlisle, Pennsylvania.
2. The defendants are Mark and Andrea Say, residing at 171 East Penn Street, Carlisle
Pennsylvania.
3. Plaintiffs seeks custody of the following child:
Name
Megan Say
Present Residence
Age
5 months
The child was not born out of wedlock
At the behest of Cumberland County Children and Youth Services the child is presently in
the custody of Jessica Armolt who resides in Cumberland County, Pennsylvania..
During the past five years, the children have resided with the following persons and at the
following addresses:
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The mother of the child is Andrea Say, currently residing at 171 East Penn Street, Carlisle,
Pennsylvania.
She is married.
The father of the child is Mark Say, currently residing at 171 East Penn Street, Carlisle,
Pennsylvania.
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4. The relationship of plaintiffs to the child is that of Rose M. Eckerode, grandmother and
Laura E. Smith, great grandmother.
The plaintiff, Rose M. Eckemode currently resides with the following persons.
Name Relationship
No one
The plaintiff, Laura E. Smith currently resides with the following persons.
Name
Relationship
Raymond Smith
Husband
5. The relationship of defendants to the child is that of mother and father.
The defendants currently resides with the following persons.
Name
Unknown
Relationship
6. Plaintiff has participated as a party or witness, or in another capacity, in other litigation
concerning the custody of the child in this or another court. The child is believed to be
currently under the supervision of Cumberland County Children and Youth Services and
was placed in a foster home with Jessica Armolt.
Plaintiff has no information of a custody proceeding concerning the child pending in a
court ofthis Commonwealth.
Plaintiff does know of a person not a party to the proceedings who has physical custody
of the child and claims to have custody or visitation rights with respect to the child.
Name
Jessica Armolt
7, The best interest and permanent welfare of the child will be served by granting the relief
request because:
Plaintiffs are the grandmother and great grandmother of the child and the best interests of
the child will be served by being with family.
Plaintiffs are best able to provide the care and nurture which the child needs for healthy
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Defendants have abused the child and/or allowed the child to be abused.
WHEREFORE, Plaintiffs request this Court grant Plaintiffs primary physical custody
with supervised visitation in the natural parents.
Respectfully submitted,
Date: 1.1/;/0 I
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155 South Hanover Street
Carlisle, P A 17013
(717) 241-6070
Supreme Court ID # 81924
Attorney for Plaintiffs
1 verifY that the statements made in this complaint are true and correct. I understand that
false statements herein are made subject to the penalties of 18 Pa. Cons. Stat. ~ 4904 relating to
unsworn falsification to authorities.
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LAURA E. SMITH,
: IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF
: CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA
Plaintiffs
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ANDREA SA Y/
MARK SAY,
:NO.
Defendants
: IN CUSTODY
CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
I, Karl E. Rominger, Esquire, attorney for Plaintiffs, do hereby certifY that I this day
served a copy ofthe Custody Complaint upon the following by depositing same in the United
States Mail, first class postage prepaid, at Carlisle, Pennsylvania, addressed as follows:
Mark and Andrea Say
171 East Penn Street
Carlisle, P A 17013
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Attorney for Plaintiffs
Dated: December 4, 2001
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ROSE E. ECKENRODE,
LAURA E, SMITH
: IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF
CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA
V.
ANDREA SAY,
MARK SAY
: NO, 2001-6879 CIVIL TERM
ORDER OF COURT
AND NOW, this 22ND day of JANUARY, 2002, upon review of the stipulation
and proposed order, we are unable to detennine which children are subject to the custody
order or whether any person not a party has custody of said children. Therefore, the
requested order is DENIED without prejudice. Counsel is directed to comply with Pa.
R.C.P. 1915.3 and if appropriate under Pa. R.C.P. 1915.6, to join Cumberland County
Children and Youth Services and Jessica Barrick in accordance with that Rule.
Edward E. Guido, J.
Karl E. Rominger, Esquire
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LAURA E. SMITH,
: IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF
: CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA
Plaintiffs
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ANDREA SAY!
MARK SAY,
: NO. 2001-6879
Defendants
: IN CUSTODY
ORDER OF COURT
The attached Stipulation is adopted as follows:
1. The parties shall share joint legal custody.
2. Primary physical custody is granted to Rose Eckenrode.
3. Mother, Andrea Say, shall be allowed frequent periods of visitation, as agreed to by
grandmother, Rose Eckenrode.
4. Father, Mark Say, is also granted visitation as allowed and agreed to by grandmother,
Rose Eckenrode.
5. It is the intention of the parties that this Agreement remain in effect if and until Mother
and/or Father of the child are ready, willing and able to undertake full time care ofthe child. It is
agreed that the parties are free to petition the Court to modifY this Agreement at any time to show
that Mother and Father are ready, willing and able to take full time care of the child.
6. Mother, Andrea Say and Father, Mark Say, agree to allow Grandmother, Rose
Eckenrode, to speak with any counselors, psychologists or the like, they may be seeing, for
purposes of determining whether or not, in those persons professional opinions, Mother and!or
Father are ready to undertake care of the child. This express waiver of confidentiality, applies
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parties may have with their respective therapists or counselors.
7. The parties agree that for purposes of this action and any future action, Grandmother
and Great-grandmother have standing.
8. Mother, Andrea Say and Father, Mark Say have chosen not to seek an independent
attorney. Mark and Andrea Say realize that by signing this document that they agree that they
have either consulted with an attorney or waive their right to do so.
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LAURA E. SMITH,
: IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF
: CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA
Plaintiffs
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ANDREA SAY/
MARK SAY,
: NO. 2001-6879
Defendants
: IN CUSTODY
CUSTODY STIPULATION
AND NOW, come the parties to this action and agree as follows:
1. The parties shall share joint legal custody.
2, Primary physical custody is granted to Rose Eckenrode.
3. Mother, Andrea Say, shall be allowed frequent periods of visitation, as agreed to by
grandmother, Rose Eckenrode.
4. Father, Mark Say, is also granted visitation as allowed and agreed to by grandmother,
Rose Eckenrode.
5, It is the intention of the parties that this Agreement remain in effect if and until Mother
and/or Father of the child are ready, willing and able to undertake full time care of the child. It is
agreed that the parties are free to petition the Court to modify this Agreement at any time to show
that Mother and Father are ready, willing and able to take full time care of the child.
6. Mother, Andrea Say and Father, Mark Say, agree to allow Grandmother, Rose
Eckenrode, to speak with any counselors, psychologists or the like, they may be seeing, for
purposes of determining whether or not, in those persons professional opinions, Mother and/or
Father are ready to undertake care of the child. This express waiver of confidentiality, applies
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only to opinion as to the matters stated above, and not to the contents of any conversations the
parties may have with their respective therapists or counselors.
7, The parties agree that for purposes of this action and any future action, Grandmother
and Great-grandmother have standing.
8. Mother, Andrea Say and Father, Mark Say have chosen not to seek an independent
attorney. Mark and Andrea Say realize that by signing this document that they agree that they
have either consulted with an attorney or waive their right to do so.
WHEREFORE, the parties ask the Court to enter and Order confirming and adopting
these agreed to provisions, as they are in the best interest of the child.
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LAURA E. SMITH,
: IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF
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Plaintiffs
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ANDREA SAY/
MARK SAY,
: NO. 2001-6879
Defendants
: IN CUSTODY
CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
I, Karl E. Rominger, Esquire, attorney for Plaintiffs, do hereby certify that I this day
served a copy of the Custody Stipulation upon the following by depositing same in the United
States Mail, first class postage prepaid, at Carlisle, Pennsylvania, addressed as follows:
Cumberland County Children and Youth Services
16 West High Street
Suite 200
Carlisle, PA 17013
Jessica Barrick
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LAURA E. SMITH,
: IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF
: CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA
Plaintiffs
v.
ANDREA SA Y/
MARK SAY,
: NO. 2001-6879
Defendants
: IN CUSTODY
ORDER OF COURT
The attached Stipulation is adopted as follows:
1. The parties shall share joint legal custody of the child, Megan Say, born June 17,2001.
2. Primary physical custody of the child, Megan Say, is granted to Rose Eckenrode.
3. Mother, Andrea Say, shall be allowed frequent periods of visitation, as agreed to by
grandmother, Rose Eckenrode.
4. Father, Mark Say, is also granted visitation as allowed and agreed to by grandmother,
Rose Eckenrode.
5. It is the intention of the parties that this Agreement remain in effect if and until Mother
and/or Father of the child, Megan Say, are ready, willing and able to undertake full time care of
the child. It is agreed that the parties are free to petition the Court to modifY this Agreement at
any time to show that Mother and Father are ready, willing and able to take full time care ofthe
child.
6. Mother, Andrea Say and Father, Mark Say, agree to allow Grandmother, Rose
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purposes of detennining whether or not, in those persons professional opinions, Mother and/or
Father are ready to undertake care of the child. This express waiver of confidentiality, applies
only to opinion as to the matters stated above, and not to the contents of any conversations the
parties may have with their respective therapists or counselors.
7. The parties agree that for purposes of this action and any future action, Grandmother
and Great-grandmother have standing.
8. Mother, Andrea Say and Father, Mark Say have chosen not to seek an independent
attorney. Mark and Andrea Say realize that by signing this document that they agree that they
have either consulted with an attorney or waive their right to
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LAURA E. SMITH,
: IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF
: CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA
Plaintiffs
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MARK SAY,
: NO. 2001-6879
Defendants
: IN CUSTODY
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AND NOW, comes Rose Eckenrode and Laura E. Smith, by and through their privately
retained attorney, Karl E. Rominger, Esquire and avers as follows:
1. The Court entered an Order on January 22, 2002, requesting that counsel possibly
involve Children and Youth Services or other parties.
2. This counsel spoke with Sandra Gibson at Children and Youth Services, who has
received and did have the paperwork including the original filing and proposed Stipulation that the
Court had rejected.
3. The caseworker informed this counsel that she had no objection to the conditions of
the Stipulation and the vestiture of custody in grandmother.
4. Children and Youth Services indicated that this counsel could represent to this Court
that they were in concurrence with the Stipulation.
5. Jessica Barrick who has physical custody of the child, Megan Say, has only had
physical custody on a temporary basis, and as and through her friendship with mother and upon
the request of Children and Youth Services.
6. Attached is a Stipulation which states with particularity what child is involved.
7. The parties have re-affixed their signatnres to the same, and asks that this Court enter
it as an Order of Court.
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WHEREFORE, Children and Youth Services being in concurrence with the proposed
Stipulation, the parties request the Court enter the attached Stipulation as an Order of Court and
that this matter may be resolved and the child placed with the grandmother pursuant to said
Stipulation.
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155 South Hanover Street
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LAURA E. SMITH,
: IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF
: CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA
Plaintiffs
v.
ANDREA SAY/
MARK SAY,
: NO. 2001-6879
Defendants
: IN CUSTODY
CUSTODY STIPULATION
AND NOW, come the parties to this action and agree as follows:
1. The parties shall share joint legal custody of the child, Megan Say born June 17,2001.
2. Primary physical custody of the child, Megan Say, is granted to Rose Eckenrode.
3. Mother, Andrea Say, shall be allowed frequent periods of visitation, as agreed to by
grandmother, Rose Eckenrode.
4. Father, Mark Say, is also granted visitation as allowed and agreed to by grandmother,
Rose Eckenrode.
5. It is the intention of the parties that this Agreement remain in effect if and until Mother
and/or Father ofthe child, Megan Say, are ready, willing and able to undertake full time care of
the child. It is agreed that the parties are free to petition the Court to modifY this Agreement at
any time to show that Mother and Father are ready, willing and able to take full time care of the
child.
6. Mother, Andrea Say and Father, Mark Say, agree to allow Grandmother, Rose
Eckenrode, to speak with any counselors, psychologists or the like, they may be seeing, for
purposes of determining whether or not, in those persons professional opinions, Mother and/or
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only to opinion as to the matters stated above, and not to the contents of any conversations the
parties may have with their respective therapists or counselors.
7. The parties agree that for purposes of this action and any future action, Grandmother
and Great-grandmother have standing.
8. Mother, Andrea Say and Father, Mark Say have chosen not to seek an independent
attorney. Mark and Andrea Say realize that by signing this document that they agree that they
have either consulted with an attorney or waive their right to do so.
WHEREFORE, the parties ask the Court to enter and Order confinning and adopting
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LAURA E. SMITH
IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF
CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA
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ANDREA SAY,
MARK-SAY
: NO. 2001-6879 CIVIL TERM
ORDER OF COURT
;"AND NOW, this 221<0 day of JANUARY, 2002, upon review of the stipulation
and proposed order, we are unable to detennine which children are subject to the custody
order or whether any person not a party has custody of said children. Therefore, the
requested order is DENIED without prejudice. Counsel is directed to comply with Pa.
R.c.P. 1915.3 and if appropriate under Pa. R.C.P. 1915.6, to join Cumberland County
Children and Youth Services and Jessica Barrick in accordance with that Rule.
Edward E. Guido, J.
Karl E. Rominger, Esquire
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Cumberland County Children and Youth Services
Jessica Barrick
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Carlisle, Pa. 17013
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LAURA E. SMITH,
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ANDREA SAY/
MARK SAY,
: NO. 2001-6879
Defendants
: IN CUSTODY
CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
I, Karl E. Rominger, Esquire, attorney for Plaintiffs, do hereby certifY that I this day
served a copy of the Custody Stipulation upon the following by depositing same in the United
States Mail, first class postage prepaid, at Carlisle, Pennsylvania, addressed as follows:
Sandra Gibson
Cumberland County Children and Youth Services
16 West High Street
Suite 200
Carlisle, PA 17013
Jessica Barrick
124 Tower Circle
Carlisle, PA 17013
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Karl E. Rominger, Esquire
Attorney for Plaintiffs
Date: January 25, 2002
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LAURA E. SMITH,
Plaintiffs
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ANDREA SAY/
MARK SAY,
Defendants
:NO.2001-6879
:IN CUSTODY
SUPPLEMENTAL PLEADING
AND NOW, comes petitioners by and through their counsel, Karl E. Rominger,
Esquire and supplements their previous pleading as follows:
I. Petitioners previously asked the court to adopt a Stipulation
2. The Court requested that the petitioners certifY that the child is not in anyone else's
physical custody.
3. Children and Youth Services has provided the child to Rose Eckenrode and the child is
no longer in any other persons or parties custody.
4. All parties and potential parties have been served with this Supplement.
WHEREFORE, Plaintiffs respectfully requests this Honorable Court adopt
this Stipulation signed by the real parties in interest and make it an Order of Court.
Respectfully submitted,
ROMINGER & BAYLEY
Karl E. Rominger, Esquire
155 South Hanover Street
Carlisle, P A 17013
(717) 241-6070
Supreme Court ID # 81924
Attorney for Plaintiffs
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ANDREA SA Y/
MARK SAY,
Defendants
:NO.2001-6879
:IN CUSTODY
CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
I, Karl E. Rominger, Esquire, attorney for Plaintiffs, do hereby certifY that I this day
served a copy of the Supplemental Pleading upon the following by depositing same in the United
States Mail, first class postage prepaid, at Carlisle, Pennsylvania, addressed as follows:
Sandra Gibson
Cumberland County Children and Youth Services
16 West High Street
Suite 200
Carlisle, P A 17013
Jessica Barrick
124 Tower Circle
Carlisle, PA 17013
Mark and Andrea Say
171 East Peun Street
Carlisle,PA 17013
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MARK SAY,
Defendants
:NO.2001-6879
:IN CUSTODY
VERIFICATION
KARL E. ROMINGER, ESQUIRE, states that he is the attorney for, Plaintiffs in this
action; that he makes this affidavit as attorney because he has sufficient knowledge or
information and belief, based upon his investigation of the matters averred or denied in the
foregoing document; and that this statement is made subject to the penalties of 18 Pa. C.S.
Pa.C.S. S4904, relating to unsworn falsification to authorities.
Date: [\ 4d r 2()GJ-
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