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HomeMy WebLinkAbout99-04208.:c: ...,..N Kam.. ':.-...?'.....:. .. _ _. _ w? (( t ,'s w t ^ d W au r i S , t P VIA" .. Y ? t J i Y ?Y ^F / 000 ( t r. :Jn t? k K A 0 IN '1'1114; ('01111T OF COMMON PLEAS OF (TI)MBERLAND COUNTY (iRF(i(i It CAR16NAN PLAINTIFF VS 't()WNSIIII' OP SILVER SPRING, DFITNDANT NOTICE OF APPEAL NO. CA 98-1 CIVIL ACTION-LAW UV( NO. 99- I-laO) NOTICE OF AI'PH;Al, AND ORDER FOR TRANSCRIPTS TO BE FILED NOT1(*E 1S 11ERFBVG1VFNthat Gregg R. Carignan, Plaintiff in II u+ ahove named action, hereby appeals to the Court of Common Pleas of Cumberland County, P,-misvIvania liom the OrcIcr catered in this matter on the 9th day of June 1999, attached hereto ac rrhihil I! I N( )' I'1(' E 1 S 1 I F R F I I V (:I V FN to I he official court reporter and ordered to produce, rrrtil'v and lilt Iho transcript i11111 is ntaIIci, Io the extent the same has not already been done. Gregg R Carignan 450 Gettysburg Pike. Mechanicsburg, Pa 17055-5170 Phone; (717) 766-1762. CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE I. qr ?yirjrNy hereby certify that I am on this day, the 9th of July serving the I't if O'going cYYbum4`fn jJn Wthc person and in the manner indicated bellow; Richard C. Snelbaker, Esq 44 West Main Street Mechanicsburg, PA 17055 I )ate; .luly 0111, 1999 Gregg R. Xignan 450 Gettysburg Pike Mechanicsburg, PA 17055-5170 (717)766-1762 i i BEFORE THE BOARD OF TOWNSHIP SUPERVISORS IN AND FOR TOWNSHIP OF SILVER SPRING Cumberland County, Pennsylvania IN RE: APPLICATION OF GREGG R. CARIGNAN and KAREN CARIGNAN NO. CA 98-1 FOR CURATIVE AMENDMENT DECISION OF BOARD OF TOWNSHIP SUPERVISORS 1. PROCEDURAL HISTORY Gregg R. and Karen Carignan ("Applicants") filed certain documentation with the Township of silver spring ("Township") on September 14, 1998 which included challenges to certain ordinances via the curative amendment process authorized by Section 609.1 of the Pennsylvania Municipalities Planning Code ("MPC") (53 P.S. 510609.1). The challenges relate to the use of the real estate known as 6495 Carlisle Pike in said Township in which Applicants claim a property interest. The challenges were referred to (a) the Silver Spring Township Planning commission which reviewed the application and referred it to the Board without recommendation and (b) the Cumberland County Planning commission, which recommended denial of the curative amendments. The Board of Township supervisors ("Board") fixed a hearing 1 on the Application for November 9, 1998. Public Notice of the hearing was given by appropriate publication in the Patriot-News newspaper on October/ 20 and 27, 1998. Proof of publication was G ?2 " r X 1 provided by the publisher. The subject premises was duly posted with copies of said notice on November 4, 1998. Letter notice of the hearing was also sent to the Applicants on September 25, 1998, and October 2, 1998. Notice of the Silver Spring Township Planning Commission action was sent to Applicants on October 13, 1998. The Board held public hearings on November 11, 1998, November 18, 1998, January 27, 1999, February 24, 1999, and March 17, 1999. The testimony was stenographically recorded and transcribed. At the conclusion of the March 17, 1999 hearing, it was agreed (on Applicants' request) that Applicants would be given until April 17, 1999, to file (by mailing) a brief with the Board. Thereafter, the Township Staff would have 20 days from April 17, 1999, to file a response brief, and Applicants could file a response to the latter within 10 days. It was understood that the Board would make its decision within 45 days after the I last brief was filed. Applicants did not file a brief on April 17, 1999, as agreed. Applicants filed a letter request on April 20, 1999, with the Board for an extension of time to file a brief. The Board via its Solicitor responded to the letter request by letter dated April 20, 1999, agreeing to an extension until i May 3, 1999, provided acknowledged Applicant's receipt of the letter and agreed to its terms by April 23, 1999. Applicants i -2 r failed to give such acknowledgement or agreement. Applicants have not submitted any post-hearing brief as they requested. By letter dated May 7, 1999, the Township staff waived its opportunity to file a post-hearing brief since it had not received Applicants' brief. No further submissions were made by Applicants. This decision is being made within forty-five (45) days from May 7, 1999, being the date of the last submission by the parties. II- ANALYSIS OF APPLICANTSI CHALLENGES Applicantst application for curative amendment appears to contain four parts: (1) to repeal Township Ordinance No. 26, an ordinance generally regulating abandoned, wrecked or junked vehicles; (2) to amend the Zoning ordinance of 1976 to permit various additional uses by right in the C-2, Highway Commercial Zoning District; (3) to amend the Zoning Ordinance of 1976 to delete Section 809.1 entitled "Prohibited Uses" and to substitute therefor a general statement allowing outside storage in all zoning districts as part of normal operations conducted on the premises; and (4) to amend in some unspecified manner the -3- regulations applicable to the C-3, Commercial Highway zoning District in the Zoning Ordinance of 1995. III. PRELW AFY DrSCUSSION This Board extended virtually unlimited opportunity to Applicants to produce evidence and legal argument to support their contentions of the alleged illegality of the various ordinances they sought to attack. The Board scheduled five hearing sessions between November 11, 1998 and March 17, 1999, for Applicants to produce evidence. The Board also fixed a system of post-hearing briefing (at Applicants' request) in an effort to afford Applicants the opportunity to submit legal argument and authorities. The Board believes that it went far beyond the requirements of applicable law in providing Applicants with a forum to establish their contentions. Despite these opportunities, Applicants simply failed to meet their burdens. A careful reading of the hearing transcripts indicates that Applicants produced no credible evidence of any illegality and totally failed to submit any post-hearing arguments. In short, Applicants woefully failed to meet the burden of the action they commenced. IV. DISCUSSION OF SPEC IC CHALLENGES A. Challenoe i Ordinance No 26 -4- As advised repeatedly by the Board throughout the hearing, the curative amendment process under the MPC does not apply to this ordinance. "Ordinance No. 26" is a regulation of abandoned, wrecked or junked vehicles -- it is not part of any zoning ordinance nor otherwise subject to the challenge procedures of the MPC. Even if one were to consider it as a zoning ordinance (which this Board does not so consider), Applicants submitted no credible evidence or argument to indicate that the ordinance is defective. Moreover, they submitted no proposed amendment to cure the alleged defects. Their proposed amendment is : "Ordinance #26 is hereby abolished!" such proposal is not appropriate, particularly when the challenger fails to establish that the entire ordinance in all its parts is defective. Therefore, it is proper to deny and dismiss such challenge. B. Challenges #2 and 03• 1976 Zoning Ordinance The Township enacted a zoning ordinance in 1976, but replaced it in 1995. Therefore, the earlier one does not exist for the purposes of curative amendment. The curative amendment procedure is intended to cure defects prospectively -- to correct illegalities in future applications of the zoning legislation. Here, Applicants seek to change land use regulations in the now extinct C-2, Highway Commercial Zoning District. Their -5- A efforts are totally misplaced and impossible of performance. Therefore, it is proper to deny and dismiss such challenges. C Challenge #4• 1995 Zoning ordinance The Board has included this part of Applicants' challenges only because the cover page of the Application refers to Applicants' premises being in the C-3, Commercial Highway Zoning District, and because they referred generally to such challenge in the course of the hearing. However, it is properly noted that the Application contains no specific allegations with respect to the 1995 Zoning Ordinance and there is no proposed curative amendment. Therefore, there are no contentions or challenges requiring decision. Therefore, it is proper to deny and dismiss such challenge. V. FINDINGS OF FACTS After careful consideration of the evidence submitted at the hearing, the Board finds as follows: 1. Applicants/ Challengers are Gregg R. and Karen Carignan. 2. Applicants occupy a property in Silver Spring Township known and numbered as 6495 Carlisle Pike. 3. The real estate occupied by Applicants is in the C-3, Commercial Highway Zoning District. 4. Applicants have failed to establish any deficiencies in the ordinances subject to the curative amendment process of the -6- MPC. 5. Applicants failed to provide this Board with any post- hearing submissions as requested by the Applicants and allowed by this Board. VI. CoplyalQ S OE-LAW The Board concludes as follows: 1. The matters before the Board as filed by Applicants are in the nature of challenges to legislation by the curative amendment procedure of the MPC. 2. This Board has jurisdiction over curative amendment challenges pursuant to Section 901.1(b)(4) of the MPC. 3. The challenges and curative amendments were properly referred to the Township and County Planning Commissions as required by Section 609.1(a). 4. All notices of the public hearing in this matter were duly given in compliance with Section 908(1) of the MPC. 5. Ordinance No. 26 is not subject to challenge by the curative amendment process under the MPC. 6. The challenges to the provisions of the Zoning ordinance of 1976 are moot. 7. The alleged challenge to the Zoning ordinance of 1995 is void for not being supported by their allegations of deficiency in the application/challenge as required by Section 916.1(c)(1) of the MPC and for not containing proposed curative amendment(s) as mandated by Section 916.1(c)(2) of the MPC. -7- i a N >. .. 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(Address eor gent) E and/ee %spgd)tlrese( ylfreyueated Y Ps Form 3811 102595.97 B.OU9 I 11 UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE II fl I USPS assMall Permit No. G-10 Postage & • Print your name, address, and ZIP Code in this box • y101IQT/dtY cmKfHOtISt CJM8EKAND COU f ONE I:WRTHO CARLtS-E, p^ 11013-33C I) i I S A 8., Applicants have the burden of establishing the alleged deficiencies. 9. Applicants failed to establish by credible evidence at the hearing or otherwise that the various cited ordinances are defective and curable by the curative amendment process. . 10. The various challenges are without merit. VII. DECISION AND NOW, this 9th day of June, 1999, upon consideration of the record in this matter and for the reasons set forth herein above, the application(s) of Gregg R. and Karen Carignan is/are denied and dismissed as being without merit and the Applicants shall be notified that this Board will not adopt the curative amendments. BOARD OF TOWNSHIP By: ATTEST: T-8- C) 4 CELL! f' U N T U. m rn ZZ T ? C fCL 1:.1 LLI ? C) CL U J ?- ?LN - f y f Gregg R. Carignan VS. Township of Silver Spring IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA NO. 99-4206 CIVIL TERM WRIT OF CERTIORARI COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA) : SS. COUNTY OF CUMBERLAND) TO: Township of Silver Spring We, being willing for certain reasons, to have certified a certain action between Gregg R Carignan vs Township of Silver Spring pending before you, do command you that the record of the action aforesaid with all things concerning said action, shall be certified and sent to our judges of our Court of Common Pleas at Carlisle, within 20 days of the date hereof, together with this writ; so that we may further cause to be done that which ought to be done according to the laws and Constitution of this Commonwealth. 1°Tmm"""' -Hoffer, P.J. ?h day of T„iy 19 Q9 e Co g ? N rul ?? agg H a m y&yy w 'i6? o$ V m m •rP Ln i b N b LL B a ,n o. LO CL 1 g Z $ ' a 9661 I1jdtl'009P, UUod Sd i GREGG R. CARIGNAN IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA VS. TOWNSHIP OF SILVER SPRING NO. 99-4208 CIVIL TERM RETURN OF WRIT OF CERTIORARI AND NOW, comes the Board of Supervisors of the Township of Silver Spring of Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, by its Township secretary, custodian of the records of said Board, and files the following documents as the record of the proceedings before said Board with regard to the above captioned matter pursuant to the Writ of Certiorari filed herewith: 1. Original application challenging various ordinances received September 14, 1998. 2. Notice of Hearing to Carignans dated September 25, 1998, with certified mail receipts. 3. Undelivered notice (same as item 2 above). 4. Notice to Carignans dated October 13, 1998, reporting Township Planning commission meeting. 5. Letter from Cumberland County Planning Commission dated October 15, 1998, reporting Cumberland County Planning commission action. 6. Proof of publication from The Patriot-News Co. re notice of hearing. 7. Letter to Carignans dated November 20, 1998, reporting LAW OFFICES SNELBAKER, action on request for continuance. BRENNEMAN & SPARE g, Packet of subpoenas submitted by Gregg Carignan received February 24, 1999. 9. Letter from Gregg R. Carignan to Wayne M. Pecht dated March 3, 1999. 10. Letter from Gregg R. Carignan to Board of Supervisors dated march 19, 1999. 11. Letter to Gregg Carignan from Township Manager dated April 20, 1999. 12. Copy of letter to Gregg R. Carignan from Township Solicitor dated April 20, 1999. 13. Decision of Board of Township Supervisors dated June 9, 1999. 14. Affidavit or Service of Adjudication/ Decision dated June 25, 1999 re personal service on June 11, 1999. 15. Transcripts of testimony from the following sessions of hearing: a. November 11, 1998. b. November 18, 1998. c. January 27, 1999. d. February 24, 1999. e. March 17, 1999. IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I hereunto set my hand and the official seal of Silver Spring Township this 2nd day of August, 1999. Sue Ellen Adams (Township Secretary) LAW OFFICES SNELBAKER. BRENNEMAN & SPARE CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE I hereby certify that I am this date serving a true and correct copy of the foregoing Return of Writ of Certiorari (without the enumerated documents) by sending the same in two counterparts to the persons listed as challengers in the official challenge by first-class mail postage paid addressed as follows: Gregg R. Carignan & Karen Carignan 450 Gettysburg Pike Mechanicsburg, PA 17055-5170 Gregg R. Carignan & Karen Carignan 6495 Carlisle Pike Mechanicsburg, PA 17055 '44et Ric rd C. Snelbaker, Esquire SNELBAKER, BRENNEMAN & SPARE, P.C. Attorneys for Silver Spring Township Dated: August 2, 1999 LAW OFFICES SNELBAKER. BRENNEMAN & SPARE C: _I r 'I ?? rJ Gregg R. Carignan VS. Township of Silver Spring IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA NO. 99-4208 CIVIL TERM WRIT OF CERTIORARI COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA) : SS. COUNTY OF CUMBERLAND) TO: Township of Silver Spring we, being willing for certain reasons, to have certified a certain action between Grea4 R Carignan vs Township of Silver S=in4 pending before you, do canTond you that the record of the action aforesaid with all things concerning said action, shall be certified and sent to our judges of our Court of Carmon Pleas at Carlisle, within 20 days of the date hereof, together with this writ; so that we may further cause to be done that which ought to be done according to the laws and Constitution of this Ccmmnwealth. WITNESS, the Honorable George E. Hoffer, P.J. our said Court, at Carlisle, Pa., the Q+.h_ day of .T„iy , 19gg_. T RUS COPY FROM RE OFD ? /y/7//_/ / / ' / 1?!?f Z#Y. I - , T t"' ,nl' ^ hA• t rLr n • ---4: - Prothonotaz? and t* ys:y U-1 said Court at Carlisle, Pa. E/ .7 llc? \ n a .i P hono" ??? ? . APPEALS THE DETERM INATION OF THE ZONING OFFICER OR THE. LACK THEREOF AND HIS FAILURE TO LIST THE PETITIONER'S NON-CONFORMING USES AND NOW, COMES THE PETITIONER: TI Ili "TOWNSHIP of Silver Spring on August, 14, 1998 filed a compliant with the court of common pleas in Cumberland county may this petition is to serve as the Petitioners preliminary obJeclions and appeal of the determinations of the Zoning Officer. 12. Admitted in part, denied in as far as the Defendant could not purge himself from behind prison walls. Defendant is unable to comply with this courts order due to its arbitrary, ambiguous, and vague order which gives no standards by which the Defendant, despite numerous pleas to this court for clarification his pleas go unheard. It is the position of the Township with this courts collusion to expand the adjudication beyond the evidence presented and finding of fact . 17. Denied; The review of the facts will not support this conclusion. 23. Defendant is without specific knowledge of the facts upon which the Township relies to draw a conclusion as to the validity of the statement. Therefore a more specific pleading is herehv demanded 24. See answer to 1123 26. Denied. Defendant's New Matter i. 'rownship's complaint grossly [ails to comply with the requirements of the M.P.C. section 616.1, 617 and its subsections, the Township's own ordinance adapted October 11 1995 section 700.3. and its subsections. sp 14 1998 2. on October 11 1998 the Township of Silver Spring adopted a new zoning ordinance. containing section 700.1.2.13 describing the duties of the zoning officer as follows: To inspect nonconforming uses, structures, and lots and to keep a fled record of such nonconforming uses and structures, together with the reasons why the Zoning Officer identified them as nonconformity's, s a public record and to examine them periodically, with the view of eliminating the nonconforming uses under the existing laws and regulations; 3. The Township's 'honing Officer has failed to list the Defendants nonconforming uses 4. The language in 700.1.2. D. is indicative as to the Townships goals are to eliminate nonconforming uses. 5. Section 500 CONTINUATION; provides in part: .............any, use building, or structure lawfully existing at the time of enactment or this Ordinance may be continued, although it is not in conformity with the regulations specified by this Ordinance 6. This courts Decree Nisi became final December 1995 therefore the Defendant's use was lawfully in existence at the time of the Ordinances enactment. 7. Section 705 Repeals and Inconsistencies states; Any resolution or ordinance, or part thereof, inconsistent herewith and any amendments (hereof are hereby expressly repealed. 8. 'therefore the injunctive is haled on ordinances that were repealed months prior to the decree becoming final. 9. Defendant awaits Supreme Court review of his petition. 10. Defendant on this day has filed a challenge and amendments to the Zoning Ordinance of 1976 Exhibits are attached hereto. 11. Defendant demands his right to trail by jury and the appointment of counsel to represent him. Defendants cites Town of McCandless v. Belisario, Pa. at 707 a.2d at 381 Which Justice Zappala held "While the enforcement of municipal ordinances that provide for imprisonment upon conviction or failure to pay a fine the same is not true for municipal ordinances that do not provide for imprisonment upon conviction or failure to pay fine or penally, which, by definition, are not Penal laws, and therefore are not included in the definition of eriminal proceedings. "Pa. R. Crim. 3. The higher degree of protection provided by the odes o1'Criminal Procedure does not apply to municipal ordinance enforcement actions where imprisonment is not a remedy for conviction or failure to pay a fine. This court has to either acknowledge it does not have the right to imprison the Defendant or if the Defendant has the right u, the protection that the Penal laws allorded him. 12. The Township relies upon 3 year old stale findings which are devoid of the presents of skunks or any other egjoinable cause of action and willfully enjoins new rights and uses granted the Defendant. 13. The Defendant demands Judge Oler's requseslal as it is he who has elevated the Defendants use to an alleged nousiness, a use that has operates unencumbered and accident free for almost 40 years. 14. Judge Oler has refused to acknowledge the Defendant's rights and the fallacies in the Townships case. 15. The courts have long held; for and injunctive order to be sustained the facts upon which it lies arc undisputed and incontestable. 16. This C'ourt's stale findings are grounded on unconstitutional prohibitional Ordinances which this court has willfully ignored. 17. The Township seeks to eliminate through strong arm and heavy handed tactics to enjoin nonconforming uses and to eliminate such nonconformity's. 18. This court has colluded with the Township to enjoin a legitimate use and seeks to regulate ESTI IHTIC and eliminate non conforming uses. Mechanicsburg, Pa 17055-5170 (717)766-1762 Respectfully Sub J G gg an 4 0 Ge sburg Pike Date: September 14, 1998 CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE 1, Gregg R. Carignan, hereby certify that I am on this day, the 14th of Septembert serving the foregoing document upon the person and in the manner indicated below; • Richard C. Snelbaker, Esq 44 West Main Street Mechanicsburg, PA 17055 ?y? arignan 450 Pre ysburg Pike Mechanicsburg, PA 17055-5170 Date; September 14th, 1998 (717)766-1762 CHALLENGE TO THE VALIDITY OF THE APPLICABLE ZONING ORDINANCE COUPLED WITH A CURATIVE AMENDMENT AND APPEAL OF THE DETERMINATION OF THE ZONING OFFICER AND HIS REFUSAL TO LIST PETITIONER'S NON-CONFORMING USES RE: Premises: Gregg Carignan/ C.I. Landscaping: of 6400 block of the Carlisle Pike, Silver Spring Township, Cumberland County herein referred to as the "Property". Date September 14, 1998 To The Supervisors, Silver Spring Township; Notice of intent; Gregg Carignan/ C.1. Lawn and Garden, herein referred to as the "Petitioner" appeals the findings, or the lack thereof, of the Zoning Officer, if there are any contained within the Township's complaint, and his failure to list the non-conforming uses upon the subject property pursuant to section 700.1.(2)D. The Petitioner here by gives notice the action filed on August 14, 1998, (which the petitioner assumes the Township contends is it's enforcement notice) grossly fails to comply with the zoning ordinance enforcement provisions contained in sections 700.3 and its subsections and the empowering sections of the M.P. C. included in 616.1 and its subsections. The Petitioner further reserves the right to amend his appeals when the Zoning Officer makes actual determinations from which the petitioner may lake exception to. Therefore the following are the sections that the Petitioner assumes to be the relevant authority in this action. Gregg Carignan, Karen Carignan (Petitioner's spouse),and/ C.I. Lawn and Garden, and the citizens and business of Silver Spring township, herein referred to as the "Petitioner' herewith challenges the validity of the Ordinance # 26, the 1976 Zoning Ordinance as amended and enacted and the 1995 zoning Ordinance as enacted, Pursuant to the Pennsylvania Municipalities Code Sections 609.1 and 616. I, on the grounds that the Ordinances are exclusionary vague and seek to regulale esthetics and Motor Vehicle Code provisions. Gregg Cirignan 1C. 1. Lawn and Garden contends that the Township has willfully and deliberately failed to make provisions and allocate the Township's "fairshare" for the Petitioners use and others like himself the effect is therefor exclusionary and is invalid for those reasons. The Petitioner also contents that certain section of the ordinances seek to regulate esthetics and provisions of "The Motor Vehicle Code" provisions which are not applicable in Zoning Ordinances as they have no bearing on the health safety and welfare of the public(the only way zoning provisions are upheld to be constitutional). The Petitioner thirdly contends that sections of the Ordinances are vague and ambiguous and should be deleted under the "Void for Vagueness Doctrine." which relies on Counts. Amend. 14. i ,? Gregg Carignan and Karen Carignan are the owners in equity of the subject property located in Silver Spring Township as more full described in Exhibit "A" attached hereto. The property is in excess ol'20,000 square feet and is presently in the C-3 commercial zone, prior to October 16 of 1995 in the C-2 commercial zone, and prior to 1961 the A-G zone Gregg and Karen Carignan plan to operate upon their property as they have for the past 18 plus years and as the Dcpasquclas' and their tenants in trust had since 1961. the Township has ebal aotcrired the petitioners use as the" storing of wrecked and disable vehicles therefore coostiuding a iunk yard. The petitioner contents his use is similar to the adjoining uses and r epiewnts no greater danger than one normally encounters on a daily basis. The Petitioner's pi operty rights and freedom have been adversely affected by these defective Zoning Ordinances and their selective enforcement. Gregg Carignan proposes that the Supervisors cure the invalidity in the Zoning ordinance as envisioned by section 609.1 of the Pennsylvania Municipalities Code by including the uses permitted in the commercial zones to include use by right private and public vehicle and equipment service, repair, and towing facilities without side storage of wrecked and disabled vehicle and equipment, striking down "Ordinance # 26 and the other illegalities within the relative ordinances. Curative amendments are attached as Exhibit "1". The Petitioner requests a hearing before the Supervisors on his challenges, proposed amendments, appeals of the Zoning 0frIcer and his failure to list the Petitioners non-conforming I Ise%. The Petitioner further disputes the reasonability of the appeal fee of some $400.00 gl ossly fails to comply with section 908.(1. 1) in prescribing reasonable hearing fees. despite numerous requests to 'township personal pursuant to section 702.1 the Township has failed to pmvide the petitioner with I'ee schedlde that is referenced in section 702.1. Filed September 14, 1908. cc Zoning OlTicer Gregg Carignan Z Kaaren Carignan L C.. Lawn an Garden T/DB/A Gregg's Nursery 2 04 / Legal Description of Tract of Land, Silver spring Township, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania Containing 15,979 square feet Beginning at a point at the southwest corner of other lands of Guy J. and Jean DePasquale, said point being located and referenced by the following two (2) courses and distances from the southeast right-of-way intersection of Hogestown Road (Pa. Route No. 114) and the Carlisle Pike (U.S. Route No. 11), (1) in an easterly direction a distance of 1,476 feet along the southern legal right-of-way line of the Carlisle Pike, (2) south 04026100" west, a distance of 444.50 feet to the point of Beginning; thence along other lands of Guy J. and Jean DePasquale south 88030100" east, a distance of 160.00 feet to a point at lands now or late of Fiala, Inc.; thence along said lands south 04°26'00" west, a distance of 100.00 feet to a point at the northern right-of-way line of a proposed 50 foot right-of-way; thence along said northern right-of-way line north 88030100" west, a distance of 160.00 feet to a point at lands now or late of Medico Realty Company; thence along said lands north 04026100" east, a distance of 100.00 feet to a point the place of Beginning. Said conveyance however is subject to the servitude of an easement in favor of Grantor for ingress and egress across lands of Grantee being conveyed in regard to that certain stone driveway presently established on said land being some 20 feet more or less in width. Also subject to the servitude of an easement for use and access by Grantor in and to that certain drainfield, containing some 5000 square feet situate in the northeast corner of the lands being hereby conveyed. Also granted hereby by Grantor to Grantee an easement for use and access in favor of Grantee in and to that certain water line situate on the western side of the land of Grantor adjoining the north side of lands t' being conveyed hereby. ?..? The aforesaid easements for use shall run with the lands of the parties hereto, their heirs and assigns, so long as the usage for which intended shall be necessary for the enjoyment by the owners of the re- spective parcels. EXHIBIT A 3 a?? PROPOSED CURATIVE AMENDMENT TO ZONING ORDINANCE # 26 ADOPTED OCTOBER 14, 1969 TO BE ABOLISHED FOR GREGG CARIGNAN, THE crrIZENS AND BUSINESS OF SILVER TOWNSHIP IN THE 1NTERIsSTS OIL THE CURING THE EXCLUSIONARY PROVISIONS OF TI IE ORDNANCE, LANGUAGE THAT SEEKS TO KECULATE ESTHETICS AND I IAS NO RELATION TO THE HEALTH SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC. On this day of , 1998 ORDINANCE. #26 is HEREBY ABOLISHED! by the Board off Township Supcrvisors of the Township of Silver Spring, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. Township of Silver Spring By Chairperson, Board of Supervisors ATTEST By Supervisor By Supervisor (aft MEMORANDUM IN SUPPORT OF CHALLENGES OF THE ORDINANCES OF AND AMENDMENTS OF GREGG CARIGNAN, THE CITIZENS AND BUSINESS OF SILVER SPRING TOWNSHIP Ordinances H26 provides in part as follows: SF,C'TION 5. No person shall park or store any wrecked or junked or unlicensed vehicle or parts thereof or junk on any private grounds within the Township of Silver Spring. SECTION 6. With the exception of motor vehicles regularly used for transportation by the owner or occupant of the private grounds within the Township of Silver Spring, no motor vehicle, junked or wrecked or otherwise, shall be stored on said premises unless the keeping or storage of the same has been approved by the Township Supervisors. SECTION 7. Any person desiring to store or to continue to store motor vehicles on private grounds except for [emergency repairs under certain conditionsl shall apply in writing to the Township Supervisors for a permit setting forth the location and description of the land on which said motor vehicles are to be placed, the number and nature thereof, the manner off storage, [and] the length and for the storage. §IU Junk is defined as "any material considered detrimental to the health, cleanliness, beauty or safety of the Township. Section 5 is exclusionary on its face that "no Person shall" municipalities have and chligation to make allowances for all uses they may not choose to have only the uses that pleases them. They must except their "fair share of all uses. Section 6 makes the permitted use personal to the applicant and make no connection to the health safety and welfare or moral of the general public. The Courts have long held that it is unconstitutional to interfere with ones property rights where there is no relation to the health safety and welfare of the general Public. Additionally never in the thirty years has their ever been an approved storage by the township Supervisors constituting another prohibition ofa use. The Supervisors how seem to absurdly suggests that a disabled or wrecked vehicle is somehow more dangerous than an operating one z of 2 Section 7 Suffers from the same deficiency as section # 6 making the permitted use personal to the applicant and sets no standards by which one may rely upon in seeking permission ( permission never before granted by the Board). 01(b). II is a heavily supported fact that land use regulations which protect the health safety and welfare of the public are enforceable. It is not true of regulations that seek to legislate ascetics or beauty as the wording of this section seeks to and is the overall nature of this Ordinance. THEREFOR, for the forgoing REASONS Ordinance #26 fails the litmus test of validity and must he abolished to protcel the municipality for law suits based on constitutional riuhis violation that this Ordinance is volatile. 3d?2 PROPOSED CURATIVE AMENDMENT TO ZONING ORDINANCE OF SILVER SPRING TOWNSHIP ADOPTED SEPTEMBER, 1976 TO BE AMENDED FOR GREGG CARIGNAN, THE LANDS OF C.I. LANDSCAPING, THE CITIZENS AND BUSINESS OF SILVER TOWNSHIP IN TILE INTERESTS OF THE CURING THE EXCLUSIONARY PROVISIONS OF THE ORDNANCE, LANGUAGE '1'IIAT SEEKS TO REGULATE ESTHETICS AND HAS NO RELATION TO THE IIEALTII SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC Section 102. C-2 1116I [WAY ('0MMERQ1_AL DI TRI T shall be amended in the lbilowing manor to permit the uses ol'Ihe petitioner, Gregg Carignan T/DB/A C.I. LAWN AND GARDFN AND GItEGG'S NIIRSERY, PRESENTLY LOCATED WITHIN THE FORMER ('-2 ('0MMI?M IAL DISTRICT: Amend Section 302.1 Us_ es by Right replacing 302.1.A.20. with the following language: 20, business place of a builder, carpenter, caterer, cleaner, Contractor, Dyer, electrician, furrier, mason, painter, plumber, roofer, upholsterer, including outside storage consistence with the normal operations and uses condurted upon the premises. Amend Section 302.1 Uses by Righl replacing 302.1.A.22. with the following language: 22. 'rhe public and private servicing and storage of Motor vehicle, light and heavy equipment with the outside storage of wrecked, and (or) disabled, vehicles and equipment. and the outside storage of supporting supplies materials and associated by-products. ADOPTED this __ day of .1998 by the Board off Township Supervisors of the Township of Silver Spring, Cumberland ('ounly, Pennsylvania. I ?f 3 Township of Silver Spring By Chairperson, Board of Supervisors By Supervisor Supervisor A'I"I'Ir.ST: 2 ?f? MEMORANDUM IN SUPPORT OF CHALLENGES OF THE ORDINANCES OF AND AMENDMENTS OF GREGG CARIGNAN, THE CITIZENS AND BUSINESS OF SILVER SPRING TOWNSHIP By adding the outside storage to the prior uses listed above cures the contradictions between 302.I.A. and it's subsections and 302.1.11 which permits by right "uses on the same lot with and customarily incidental to any of the above permitted uses." Further adding to the consistency to section 809.1.A.5. which states Outdoor storage of any type shall not be permitted unless such storage is a part of the normal operations conducted on the premises ......................." M.P.C. section 603.1 Interpretation of Ordinance Provisions states: In interpreting the language of the zoning ordinances to determine the extent of the restriction upon the use of the property, the language shall be interpreted, where doubt exists as to the intended meaning of the language written and enacted by the governing body, in favor of the Property owner and aeainst any implied extension of the restriction. M.P.C. section 605. (in pertinent part) states: .......Where zoning districts nre created, all provisions shall be uniform for each class or uses or structures, within each, except that additional classifications may he made within any district: For the preceding reasons the Petitioner feels the proposed changes improve the consistency of the ordinance and avoid the exclusivity and inconsistencies and ambiguities contained in the old version. 3 o f^3 PROPOSED CURATIVE AMENDMENT TO ZONING ORDINANCE OF SILVER SPRING TOWNSIIIP ADOPTED SEPTEMBER, 1976 TO BE AMENDED FOR GREGG CARIGNAN, THE LANDS OF C.I. LANDSCAPING, THE CITIZENS AND BUSINESS OF SILVER TOWNSHIP IN THE. INTERESTS OF THE CURING THE EXCLUSIONARV PROVISIONS OF THE ORDNANCE, LANGUAGE TIIAT SEEKS TO REGULATE. ESTHETICS AND HAS NO RELATION TO THE IIEALTII SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC Section 809. I shall he deleted in it's entirety and replaced with the following language 809.1 Permitted Uses in Every Zone: 1. Outside storage as a part of the normal operations conducted on the premises. ADOPTED this day of 1998 by the Board of Township Supervisors of the Township of Silver Spring, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. I of y Township of Silver Spring Chairperson, Board of Supervisors By Supervisor By Supervisor ATTEST: z ?? y MEMORANDUM IN SUPPORT OF CHALLENGES OF THE ORDINANCES OF AND AMENDMENTS OF GREGG CARIGNAN, THE CITIZENS AND BUSINESS OF SILVER SPRING TOWNSHIP Total probation or a use has long been held to be unconstitutional it is the obligation of the municipality to Provide for all uses. Further section A.2. seeks to regulate ESTHETIC implying that mobile homes ore some how different from other residential dwellings and sum how when unoccupied constitutes some type of visual problem as opposed to an occupied mohilc home. Such is not within the meaning of the regulatory scope of the Zoning Ordinances. 3 ??q Re-mailed 10/2/98 SILVER SPRING TOWNSHIP "d450sGettysburg Pike 4 Mechanicsburg, PA 17055- 5170 CERTIFIED MAIL #Z 224 776 830 William C. Duna, ch.irm.n Wayne M. Pecht, vice4uirman Jan N. LeBlanc Maria L. Lewin Jackie Eakin Gregg & Karen Carignan 6495 Carlisle Pike Mechanicsburg, Pa 17055 c, 7 September 25,1998 Re: Certified Mail #224 776 827 Re: Carignan Curative Amendment Application C.A. 98-1 Dear Mr. & Mrs. Carignan: The Silver Spring Township Board of Supervisors at its September 23, 1998 meeting established November 11, 1998 as the date of the hearing to consider the above referenced curative amendment application. The hearing will be held at the municipal building located at 6475 Carlisle Pike, Mechanicsburg and will start at 5:30 p.m. Sincerely, k` I \c 1l r William S. Cook Township Manager WSC/sab 6475 Carlisle Pike * Mechanicsburg. PA 17055.2391 • (717) 766-0178 ? (717) 766-1696 FAX I p. 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Form 3911, and anach it to the lord of the amide by means of the gummed ends if space permits. Otherwise, 81111 to back of article. Endorse front of adide RETURN RECEIPT REQUESTED adjacent to the number. 4. it you want delivery restricted to the addressee. or to an authonzed agent of the addressee, endorse RESTRICTED DELIVERY on the front d the article. 5. Enter leas for The services requested in the appropriate spaces on the front of this receipt 11 return receipt is requested, check the applicable blocks m item 1 of Form 3911 ,r if uu; 6. Save this receipt and present it it you make an inquiry . m 11 ce n 1 I i i I 1 1.1 r>y SILVER SPRING TOWNSHIP William C. Dunn, Chairman Wayne M. Pecht, Vice-Chairman Jan N. LeBlanc Maria L. Lewis Jackie Eakin Gregg & Karen Carignan 6495 Carlisle Pike Mechanicsburg, Pa 17055 September 25, 1998 Re: Certified Mail #224 776 827 Re: Carignan Curative Amendment Application C.A. 98-1 Dear Mr. & Mrs. Carignan: The Silver Spring Township Board of Supervisors at its September 23, 1998 meeting established November 11, 1998 as the date of the hearing to consider the above referenced curative amendment application. The hearing will be held at the municipal building located at 6475 Carlisle Pike, Mechanicsburg and will start at 5:30 p.m. Sincerely, It I? `Iv " William S. Cook Township Manager WSC/sab 6475 Carlisle Pike ? Mechanicsburg, PA 17055-2391 ? (717) 766-0178 ? (717) 76(,1696 FAX r SILVER SPRING TOWNSHIP W William C. Dunn, Chairman Wayne M. Pecht, Vice-Chairman Jan N. LeBlanc Maria L. Lewis Jackie Eakin Gregg & Karen Carignan 6495 Carlisle Pike Mechanicsburg, Pa 17055 September 25, 1998 Re: Certified Mail #224 776 827 Re: Carignan Curative Amendment Application C.A. 98-1 Dear Mr. & Mrs. Carignan: The Silver Spring Township Board of Supervisors at its September 23, 1998 meeting established November 11, 1998 as the date of the hearing to consider the above referenced curative amendment application. The hearing will be held at the municipal building located at 6475 Carlisle Pike, Mechanicsburg and will start at 5:30 p.m. Sincerely, k 11 William S. Cook Township Manager WSC/sab ? . t ... . i.1 U 6475 Carlisle Pike 0 Mechanicsburg, PA 17055.2391 • (717) 766-0178 ? (717) 766.1696 FAX •CanW1111#11" z arW=4 E bredd'tl,nef •ervfoe•. •cemplele it. s 4e h to receive ft , . . •Pdnt your rwrle erM adtlra• an that m+ne of e1b brm % Xh yyopu. 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II you want this recoipl postmarked, stick the gummed stub to the fight of the return address leaving the receipt allached, and present the article at a post office service m r window or nand it to your coral carrier (rte extra charge) ` 2. If you do not want this receipt postmarked, stick the gummed stub to the right of the return ddr f h i w v a ess o t e art cle, dale. detach. and mtain the receipt, and mail the article j 3. It you wool a return rmeipl, write the cedifiod mail number and your name and address m m on a return receipt card Form 3811, and ahach 1to the from of Iho article by means of the gummed ends if space permits, Otherwise, affix to back of article Endorse front of amcie - RETURN RECEIPT REQUESTED adjacent 10 the number. a 4 g you want delivery restricted Id the addressee. or to an adhonred agent of the addressed, endorse RESTRICTED DELIVERY on the front of the addle m 5 Enter fees for rho services requested in the appropriate spaces on IM1e born of this receipt If return rdceipl is mgue5led. check the applicable blocks in item I of farm 3811 p` 6. Save INS receipt and present it if you make an inquiry . ,. LL N a I i, 1 I r i1 rf i i w 1ILV1?R SPRING TOWNSHIP William C. Dunn, Chairman Wayne M. Pecht, Vice-Chairman Jan N. LeBlanc Marl L. Lewis Jackie Eakin October 13, 1998 Certified # Z 224 776 833 Gregg & Karen Carignan 450 Gettysburg Pike Mechanicsburg, Pa 17055-5170 Dear Mr. & Mrs. Carignan: The Silver Spring Township Planning Commission at its meeting of October 8, 1998 unanimously voted to forward your curative amendment application 98-1 to the Board of Supervisors without a recommendation. The Planning Commission did not render a recommendation due to the fact that this issue involved legal issues rather than planning issues. Your curative amendment application will be considered by the Silver Spring Township Board of Supervisors at its November 11, 1998 meeting which will be held at 5:30 P.M. at the Municipal Building located at 6475 Carlisle Pike, Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania. KKK/ems cc: Board of Supervisors William S. Cook, Township Manager Sincerely, Kelly K. e c Assistant Township Manager 6475 Carlisle Pike • Mechanicsburg, PA 17055.2391 ? (717) 766-0178 • (717) 766-1696 FAX CUMBERLAND COUNTY (PLANNING COM ?1® CUMBERLAND COUNTY COURT HOUSE, 1 COURTHOUSE SQUARE - CARLISLE, PENNSYLVANIA 17 QW STAFF OFFICE 112 Market Street, 7th Floor Harrisburg, Pennsylvania 17101-2015 Telephone 717-234.2639 Fax 717-234-4058 e-mail: planning®tcrpc-pa.org October 15, 1998 Board of Supervisors Silver Spring Township 6475 Carlisle Pike Mechanicsburg, PA 17055-2391 RE: Carignan Curative Amendment Application Dear Board of Supervisors: SECT RE I AUTHOR(( },l t The Cumberland County Planning Commission, at its meeting on October 15, 1998, reviewed the above referenced curative amendment and recommended the Township reject the application. The zoning ordinance proposed to be amended dates back to 1976, and has been superceded by the present zoning ordinance adopted in 1995. The Planning Commission questions the purpose and legal validity of an amendment to an old zoning ordinance that is no longer in effect. Ordinance No. 26, regulating parked vehicles, or storing of vehicles is a separate ordinance and not part of the zoning ordinance. The Planning Commission does not agree with the applicant's recommendation to abolish this ordinance. Sincerely, l James W. Szymborski AICP Executive Director ? 1I 'I °O THE PATRIOT NEWS THE SUNDAY PATRIOT NEWS Proof of Publication Underact No. 587, aooroued Mau 16. 1929 Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, County of Dauphin} as MlchaelMOrrow being duly sworn according to law, deposes and says: That he is the Assistant Controller of THE PATRIOT-NEWS CO., a corporation organized and existing under the laws of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, with its principal office and place of business at 812 to 818 Market Street, in the City of Harrisburg, County of Dauphin, State of Pennsylvania, owner and publisher of THE PATRIOT-NEWS and THE SUNDAY PATRIOT-NEWS newspapers of general circulation, printed and published at 812 to 818 Market Street, in the City, County and State aforesaid; that THE PATRIOT-NEWS and THE SUNDAY PATRIOT-NEWS were established March 4th, 1854, and September 18th, 1949, respectively, and all have been continuously published ever since; That the printed notice or publication which is securely attached hereto is exactly as printed and published in their regular daily and/or Sunday and Metro editions/issues which appeared on the 20th & 27th day of October, 1998. That neither he nor said Company is interested in the subject matter of said printed notice or advertising, and that all of the allegations of this statement as to the time, place and character of publication are true; and That he has personal knowledge of the facts aforesaid and is duly authorized and empowered to verify this statement on behalf of The Patriot-News Co. aforesaid by virtue and pursuant to a resolution unanimously passed and adopted severally by the stockholders and board of directo of the said Company and subsequently duly recorded in the office for the Recording of Deeds in and for said C ?nFo? Dauphi?I/ Miscellaneous Book "M", Volume 14, Page 317. II II Sworn to and subscribed b foV me this 2g/Ith?ay of OctobexA•D• 1998. L.i NOTARY PUBLIC My commission expires Silver Spring Township Notarai Seal 6475 Carlisle Pike done>i. aark, Natary FUbtlc Hani:burg, Dauphin County Mechanicsburg, Pa 17055 nlycomin,slon Hxptres June 2, zUpo p(;n1h^,t PC9i?;/"119IB 4SSnCidliafl oI NOI?l iCS Statement of Advertising Costs To THE PATRIOT-NEWS CO., Dr. For publishing the notice or publication attached hereto on the above stated dates $ 158.84 Probating same Notary Fee(s) $ 1.50 Total $ 160.34 is Receipt for Advertising Cost 17HE PATRIOT-NEWS and THE SUNDAY PATRIOT-NEWS, newspapers of general of the aforesaid notice and publication costs and certifies that the same have THE PATRIOT-NEWS CO. „J 1 1 iJ?0 PUBLICATION SILVER SPRING TOWNSHIP William C. Dunn, Chairman Wayne M. Pech[, Vice-Chairman Jan N. LeBlanc Maria L. Lewis Jackie Eakin November 20, 1998 Gregg & Karen Carignan 450 Gettysburg Pike Mechanicsburg, Pa 17055 RE: Curative Amendment Application CA 98-1 Mr. & Mrs. Carignan: The Silver Spring Township Board of Supervisors at its November 18, 1998 meeting granted your request for a continuance to consider your above referenced curative amendment application. This issue will be reconsidered by the Board of Supervisors on January 27, 1999 at 5:30 P.M. at the municipal building located at 6475 Carlisle Pike, Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania. Sincerely, -L?&?Q-' William S. Cook Township Manager cc: Mr. Kelly K. Kelch, Assist. Twp. Mgr. Mr. James E. Hall, Zoning Officer WSC/sab 6475 Carlisle Pike 0 Mechanicsburg, PA 17055.2391 • (717) 766-0178 ? (717) 766'1696 FAX SILVER SPRING TOWNSHIP BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CUMBERLAND COUNTY Re. Gregg and Karen Carignan Curative Amendment Application CA 98-1 File No. CA 98-1 SUBPOENA TO PRODUCE DOCUMENTS OR THINGS FOR DISCOVERY PURSUANT TO RULE 4009.22 T07 Jim Hall Zoning officer of Silver Spring Township (Name of Person or Entity) You may deliver or mail legible copies of the documents or produce things requested by this subpoena, together with the certificate of compliance, to the party making this request at the address listed above. You have the right to seek in advance the reasonable cost of preparing the copies or producing the things sought. If you fail to produce the documents or things required by this subpoena within twenty (20) days after its service, the party serving this subpoena may seek a court order compelling you to comply with it. THIS SUBPOENA WAS ISSUED AT THE REQUEST OF THE FOLLOWING PERSON: Name _Gregg and Karen Carignan Address: 450 Gettysburg Pike Mechanicsburg, PA 17055-5170 Telephone:(717) 766-1762 Supreme Court ID # N/A Attorney For: N/A BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS SILVER SPRING TOWNSHIP: Chairman, Silver Spring Board of Supervisors Date: Seal of the Board FEB 2 4 1999 (Eff.7/97) Within twenty (20) days after service of this subpoena, you are ordered by the court to produce the SILVER SPRING TOWNSHIP BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CUMBERLAND COUNTY Re. Gregg and Karen Carignan Curative Amendment Application CA 98-1 File No. CA 98-1 SUBPOENA TO PRODUCE DOCUMENTS OR THINGS FOR DISCOVERY PURSUANT TO RULE 4009.22 TO: Chief: Silver Spring Township Police Department (Name of Person or Entity) Within twenty (20) days after service of this subpoena, you are ordered by the court to produce the You may deliver or mail legible copies of the documents or produce things requested by this subpoena, together with the certificate of compliance, to the party making this request at the address listed above. You have the right to seek in advance the reasonable cost of preparing the copies or producing the things sought. If you fail to produce the documents or things required by this subpoena within twenty (20) days after its service, the parry serving this subpoena may seek a court order compelling you to comply with it. THIS SUBPOENA WAS ISSUED AT THE REQUEST OF THE FOLLOWING PERSON: Name: Gregg and Karen Carignan Address: 450 Gettysburg Pike Mechanicsburg, PA 17055-5170 Telephone:(717) 766-1762 Supreme Court ID # N/A Attorney For. N/A BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS SILVER SPRING TOWNSHIP: Chairman, Silver Spring Board of Supervisors Date: Seal of the Board FEB 2 4 1999 (Eff. 7/97) at: 6475 Carlisle Pike at 7:00 P.M. February 24. 1999 (Address) SILVER SPRING TOWNSHIP BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CUMBERLAND COUNTY Re. Gregg and Karen Carignan Curative Amendment Application CA 98-1 File No. CA 98-1 SUBPOENA TO PRODUCE DOCUMENTS OR THINGS FOR DISCOVERY PURSUANT TO RULE 4009.22 or (Address) You may deliver or mail legible copies of the documents or produce things requested by this subpoena, together with the certificate of compliance, to the party making this request at the address listed above. You have the right to seek in advance the reasonable cost of preparing the copies or producing the things sought. If you fail to produce the documents or things required by this subpoena within twenty (20) days after its service, the party serving this subpoena may seek a court order compelling you to comply with it. THIS SUBPOENA WAS ISSUED AT THE REQUEST OF THE FOLLOWING PERSON: Name: Gregg and Karen Carignan Address: 450 Gettysburg Pike Mechanicsburg, PA 17055-5170 Telephone:(717) 766-1762 Supreme Court ID # N/A Attorney For. N/A rt ` CD 4 : 1..JJ Within twenty (20) days after service of this subpoena. You are ordered by the court m nrvvfiw- H.e BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS SILVER SPRING TOWNSHIP: Chairman, Silver Spring Board of Supervisors Date: Seal of the Board (Eff. 7/97) SILVER SPRING TOWNSHIP BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CUMBERLAND COUNTY File No. CA 98-1 SUBPOENA TO PRODUCE DOCUMENTS OR THINGS FOR DISCOVERY PURSUANT TO RULE 4009.22 Re. Gregg and Karen Carignan Curative Amendment Application CA 98-1 TO: CUMBERLAND COUNTY COURT OF COMMON PLEAS COURT ADMINISTRATOR (Name of Person or Entity) (Address) You may deliver or mail legible copies of the documents or produce things requested by this subpoena, together with the certificate of compliance, to the party making this request at the address listed above. You have the right to seek in advance the reasonable cost of preparing the copies or producing the things sought. If you fail to produce the documents or things required by this subpoena within twenty (20) days after its service, the party serving this subpoena may seek a court order compelling you to comply with it. THIS SUBPOENA WAS ISSUED AT THE REQUEST OF THE FOLLOWING PERSON: Name: Gregg and Karen Carignan Address: 450 Gettysburg Pike Mechanicsburg, PA 17055-5170 Telephone:(717) 766-1762 Supreme Court ID # N/A Attorney For. N/A FEB 2 4 Within twenty (20) days after service of this subpoena, you are ordered by the court to vroduce the I BY THE BOARD OF SUPS VI , RS SIL ER RI TOWNSHIP. Date: ma eJ,- \0 i qq 9 Chalfma Ilver Spring Board of Supervisors Seal of the Board (Eff. 7/97) mss: _ , s aY? ._.r.. BOARD PL.COW AUTHOR" GREGG CARIGNAN 450 Gettysburg Pike Mechanicsburg, PA 17055-5170 March 3, 1999 March Wayne M. Pecht 6475 Carlisle Pike Mechanicsburg PA 17055 Re: Subpoenas requested February 24,1999 Dear Mr. Pecht: This letter is to inform you and the Township of Silver Spring that we have, to date, not received the requested Supeneas. The board has made the decision to proceed forth on March 10, 1999 with the hearing. The pictorial evidence is essential to our presentation. The delay in issuance will only delay the presentation and the ultimate conclusion of our case. As you know the issuance of a subpoena is a well-founded right within our legal system. Will the Township risk its' adjudication on a denial of the defendants' due process rights? Sincerely, Gregg R. Carignan cc: William S Cook, Township Manager Board of Supervisors Silver Spring Township Richard C. Snelbaker MAR 3 1999 GREGG CARIGNAN 450 Gettysburg Pike Mechanicsburg, PA 17055-5170 March 3,1999 March Wayne M. Pecht 6475 Carlisle Pike Mechanicsburg PA 17055 Re: Subpoenas requested February 24,1999 Dear Mr. Pecht: This letter is to inform you and the Township of Silver Spring that we have, to date, not received the requested Supeneas. The board has made the decision to proceed forth on March 10, 1999 with the hearing. The pictorial evidence is essential to our presentation. The delay in issuance will only delay the presentation and the ultimate conclusion of our case. As you know the Issuance of a subpoena is a well-founded right within our legal system. Will the Township risk its' adjudication on a denial of the defendants' due process rights? Sincerely, ^vz ? Gregg R. Carignan cc: William S Cook, Township Manager Board of Supervisors Silver Spring Township Richard C. Snelbaker OR r;REGG CARIGNAN nr,fl r;Pltyshurq Pike -- lot hamcstturq, PA 17055-5170 March 19, 1999 t;ilver Spring Board of Supervisors nq 75 Carlisle Pike Mprhanirsburg PA 17055 Re: Briefing schedule and curative amendment filed by Gregg and Karen Cangnan. IIsar Board of Supervisors: This letter is to inform the members of the board that I am unable to file my brief m IIIe short time that we had originally agreed upon. Therefor I respectfully request arlditinnal time to fully and concisely present our legal arguments, which I anficipate to ho all additional fourteen days and with this letter convey and agree to extend the rvnpnspd briefing schedule and the time frame in which this board must make its rlon%inll I grossly under estimated the tremendous scope of the issues originally mvnWed and the additional ones created during our efforts attempfing to developing a lecnrd before the Board. Additionally Karen's hospitalization and behavioral difficulties Will I my son have eroded the time and clarity to which our brief must address these Igglles It has come to my attention that the Board has set forth a hearing date for March 78, 1999 for changes to the Silver Spring Zoning Ordinance. To Date I have not boon ship to obtain copies of these proposed changes, it is my intent to incorporate Ihnse relevant changes into my brief. For the preceding reasons I respectfully request the board extend the schedule an additional fourteen days in which to file my brief and gather the proposed Ordinance cl ranges. T he granting of this extension in no way impairs or substantially harms the 'I ownships case. Sincp.rely, tapgq R Gangnan cc. williarn S Gook, Township Manager Richard C. Snelbaker•? SILVER SPRING TOWNSHIP Wayne M. Pecht, Chairman Maria L Lewis, Vice-Chairman Jan N. LeBlanc William C. Dunn Jackie Estrin Mr. Gregg Carignan 450 Gettysburg Pike Mechanicsburg, Pa 17055 Dear Mr. Carignan: April 20, 1999 Re: Ordinance Revisions I am responding to your letter dated March 19, 1999 (date stamped in this office April 20, 1999) regarding, in part, the hearing of the Silver Spring Township Board of Supervisors to consider testimony regarding changes to Township Ordinances including the Zoning Ordinance. Please be advised that the revised ordinances are available for review (and have been for quite some time) at the Township office Monday through Friday between the hours of 8:00 AN to 4:00 P.M. Sincerely, William S. Cook Township Manager cc: Board of Supervisors Mr. Kelly K. Kelch, Assist. Twp. Mgr. Mr. Richard C. Snelbaker, Esq., Twp. Solicitor WSC/sab i 6475 Carlisle Pike ? Mechanicsburg, PA 17055-2391 ? (717) 766.0178 ? (717) 766.1696 FAX SNELBAKER, BRENNEMAN & SPARE A PROFESSIONAL CORPORA I 10N ATTORNEYS AT LAW 44 WEST MAIN STREET MECHANICSBURG, PENNSYLVANIA 17055 RICHARD C. SNELBAKER KEITH O. BRENNEMAN ]V69T B52H PHILIP H. SPARE April 20, 1999 Gregg R. Carignan 450 Gettysburg Pike Mechanicsburg, PA 17055-5170 Gregg R. Carignan 6495 Carlisle Pike Mechanicsburg, PA 17055 Re: Township of Silver Spring Curative Amendment Proceeding - SC98-1 Dear Mr. Carignan: S c., LID ? AIM6R BOAIID I SrJW 1 I AUIW)W FACSIMILE t70 697.7681 Your letter seeking an extension of time for filing your brief dated March 19, 1999, was received at the Township office on April 20, 1999. We specifically note the error in the date of your letter and believe that it should be more appropriately dated April 19, 1999. Nothing was received from you on or about March 19, 1999. According to the stipulation made at the hearing on March 17, 1999, it was agreed that your brief would be filed with the Township on or before April 17, 1999. The Township is willing to extend the time per your request for a period of fourteen (14) additional days dating from April 17, 1999. Since the end date of such extension falls on a weekend, your brief must be filed no later than Monday, May 3, 1999. If said document is not filed by 4:00 o'clock P.M. on the latter date, the Board of Supervisors will not consider any further submissions from you. It should be noted that the Board will not grant any further extensions and expects you to abide by your request for additional time. This extension will also have the effect of extending the Board's decision time from that originally established by adding thereto sixteen (16) additional days. Likewise, the Township "h J , i W4 'SNELBAKER, BRENNEMAN & SPARE Gregg R. Carignan April 20, 1999 Page 2 Staff's time for responding to your submission is extended for an equal period of time. In order that we have your understanding to the foregoing, a copy of this letter is enclosed with signature lines to be signed by both you and your wife and to be personally delivered to the Township Manager before the close of business on April 23, 1999. 4irchard ours, C. Snelbaker RCS:jjc Enclosure cc: William S. Cook, Township Manager Gregg R. Carignan Karen Carignan BEFORE THE BOARD OF TOWNSHIP SUPERVISORS IN AND FOR TOWNSHIP OF SILVER SPRING Cumberland County, Pennsylvania IN RE: APPLICATION OF GREGG R. CARIGNAN and KAREN j CARIGNAN NO. CA 98-1 FOR CURATIVE AMENDMENT j , DECISION OF BOARD OF TOWNSHIP SUPERVISORS I. PROCEDURAL HISTORY Gregg R. and Karen Carignan ("Applicants") filed certain documentation with the Township of Silver spring ("Township") on September 14, 1998 which included challenges to certain ordinances via the curative amendment process authorized by Section 609.1 of the Pennsylvania Municipalities Planning Code ("MPC") (53 P.S. 510609.1). The challenges relate to the use of the real estate known as 6495 Carlisle Pike in said Township in which Applicants claim a property interest. The challenges were referred to (a) the Silver Spring Township Planning commission which reviewed the application and referred it to the Board without recommendation and (b) the Cumberland County Planning Commission, which recommended denial of the curative amendments. The Board of Township Supervisors ("Board") fixed a hearing on the Application for November 9, 1998. Public Notice of the hearing was given by appropriate publication in the Patriot-News newspaper on October 20 and 27, 1998. Proof of publication was provided by the publisher. The subject premises was duly posted with copies of said notice on November 4, 1998. Letter notice of the hearing was also sent to the Applicants on September 25, 1998, and October 2, 1998. Notice of the Silver Spring Township Planning commission action was sent to Applicants on October 13, 1998. The Board held public hearings on November 11, 1998, November 18, 1998, January 27, 1999, February 24, 1999, and March 17, 1999. The testimony was stenographically recorded and transcribed. At the conclusion of the March 17, 1999 hearing, it was agreed (on Applicants' request) that Applicants would be given until April 17, 1999, to file (by mailing) a brief with the Board. Thereafter, the Township Staff would have 20 days from April 17, 1999, to file a response brief, and Applicants could file a response to the latter within 10 days. It was understood that the Board would make its decision within 45 days after the last brief was filed. Applicants did not file a brief on April 17, 1999, as agreed. Applicants filed a letter request on April 20, 1999, with the Board for an extension of time to file a brief. The Board via its Solicitor responded to the letter request by letter dated April 20, 1999, agreeing to an extension until May 3, 1999, provided acknowledged Applicant's receipt of the letter and agreed to its terms by April 23, 1999. Applicants -2- failed to give such acknowledgement or agreement. Applicants have not submitted any post-hearing brief as they requested. By letter dated May 7, 1999, the Township Staff waived its opportunity to file a post-hearing brief since it had not received Applicants' brief. No further submissions were made by Applicants. days from This decision is being made within forty-five May 7, 1999, being the date of the last submission by the parties. 31• ANALYSIS OF APPLICANTS' CHALLENG S Applicants' application for curative amendment appears to contain four parts: (i) to repeal Township Ordinance No. 26, an ordinance generally regulating abandoned, wrecked or junked vehicles; (2) to amend the Zoning Ordinance of 1976 to permit various additional uses by right in the C-2, Highway Commercial Zoning District; (3) to amend the Zoning Ordinance of 1976 to delete Section 809.1 entitled "Prohibited Uses" and to substitute therefor a general statement allowing outside storage in all zoning districts as part of normal operations conducted on the premises; and (4) to amend in some unspecified manner the -3- regulations applicable to the C-3, Commercial Highway Zoning District in the Zoning Ordinance of 1995. III. PRET.TMTNDAV nTCnUBSION This Board extended virtually unlimited opportunity to Applicants to produce evidence and legal argument to support their contentions of the alleged illegality of the various ordinances they sought to attack. The Board scheduled five hearing sessions between November 11, 1998 and March 17, 1999, for Applicants to produce evidence. The Board also fixed a system of post-hearing briefing (at Applicants' request) in an effort to afford Applicants the opportunity to submit legal argument and authorities. The Board believes that it went far beyond the requirements of applicable law in providing Applicants with a forum to establish their contentions. Despite these opportunities, Applicants simply failed to meet their burdens. A careful reading of the hearing transcripts indicates that Applicants produced no credible evidence of any illegality and totally failed to submit any post-hearing arguments. In short, Applicants woefully failed to meet the burden of the action they commenced. IV. DISCUSSION OF SPECIFIC CHALLENGES A. Challenge #1• Ordinance No 26 -4- As advised repeatedly by the Board throughout the hearing, the curative amendment process under the MPC does not apply to this ordinance. "Ordinance No. 26" is a regulation of abandoned, wrecked or junked vehicles -- it is not part of any zoning ordinance nor otherwise subject to the challenge procedures of the MPC. Even if one were to consider it as a zoning ordinance (which this Board does not so consider), Applicants submitted no credible evidence or argument to indicate that the ordinance is defective. Moreover, they submitted no proposed amendment to cure the alleged defects. Their proposed amendment is : "Ordinance #26 is hereby abolished!" Such proposal is not appropriate, particularly when the challenger fails to establish that the entire ordinance in all its parts is defective. Therefore, it is proper to deny and dismiss such challenge. B. Challenges #2 and #3• 1976 Zoning Ordinance The Township enacted a zoning ordinance in 1976, but replaced it in 1995. Therefore, the earlier one does not exist for the purposes of curative amendment. The curative amendment procedure is intended to cure defects prospectively -- to correct illegalities in future applications of the zoning legislation. Here, Applicants seek to change land use regulations in the now extinct C-2, Highway Commercial Zoning District. Their -5- efforts are totally misplaced and impossible of performance. Therefore, it is proper to deny and dismiss such challenges. C. Challenge #4• 1995 Z00ing Ordinance The Board has included this part of Applicants, challenges only because the cover page of the Application refers to Applicants, premises being in the C-3, Commercial Highway Zoning District, and because they referred generally to such challenge in the course of the hearing. However, it is properly noted that the Application contains no specific allegations with respect to the 1995 Zoning Ordinance and there is no proposed curative amendment. Therefore, there are no contentions or challenges requiring decision. Therefore, it is proper to deny and dismiss such challenge. V. FINDINGS OF FACTS After careful consideration of the evidence submitted at the hearing, the Board finds as follows: 1. Applicants/Challengers are Gregg R. and Karen Carignan. 2. Applicants occupy a property in Silver Spring Township known and numbered as 6495 Carlisle Pike. 3. The real estate occupied by Applicants is in the C-3, Commercial Highway Zoning District. 4. Applicants have failed to establish any deficiencies in the ordinances subject to the curative amendment process of the -6- MPC. 5. Applicants failed to provide this Board with any post- hearing submissions as requested by the Applicants and allowed by this Board. VI, CONCLUSI9pS OF r nw The Board concludes as follows: 1. The matters before the Board as filed by Applicants are in the nature of challenges to legislation by the curative amendment procedure of the MPC. 2. This Board has jurisdiction over curative amendment challenges pursuant to Section 901.1(b)(4) of the MPC. 3. The challenges and curative amendments were properly referred to the Township and County Planning Commissions as required by Section 609.1(a). 4. All notices of the public hearing in this matter were duly given in compliance with Section 908(1) of the MPC. 5. Ordinance No. 26 is not subject to challenge by the curative amendment process under the MPC. 6. The challenges to the provisions of the zoning ordinance of 1976 are moot. 7. The alleged challenge to the Zoning ordinance of 1995 is void for not being supported by their allegations of deficiency in the application/challenge as required by Section 916.1(c)(1) of the MPC and for not containing proposed curative amendment(s) as mandated by Section 916.1(c)(2) of the MPC. -7- S. Applicants have the burden of establishing the alleged deficiencies. 9. Applicants failed to establish by credible evidence at the hearing or otherwise that the various cited ordinances are defective and curable by the curative amendment process. lo. The various challenges are without merit. VII. DECISION AND NOW, this 9th day of June, 1999, upon consideration of the record in this matter and for the reasons set forth herein above, the application(s) of Gregg R. and Karen Carignan is/are denied and dismissed as being without merit and the Applicants shall be notified that this Board will not adopt the curative amendments. BOARD OF TOWNSHIP SUPERVISORS By: IA4 t? C^% ?j chairman ATTEST: - t.! t" 1 lID/J Township Secretary -8- IN RE: APPLICATION OF FRED BEFORE THE BOARD OF ESSIS FOR DETERMINATION TOWNSHIP SUPERVISORS IN AND OF UNSUITABILITY OF LAND FOR THE TOWNSHIP OF SILVER FOR AGRICULTURAL PURPOSE : SPRING AFFIDAVIT OF SERVICE OF ADJUDICATION/DECISION COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA ) SS. COUNTY OF CUMBERLAND ) Kelly K. Kelch being duly sworn according to law deposes and says: that he is the Assistant Township Manager in and for the Township of Silver Spring; that on June 11, 1999, in the Silver Spring Township Municipal Building he did serve upon Gregg Carignan a true and correct photocopy of the Adjudication and Decision by Board of Township Supervisors dated June 9, 1999; and that the foregoing facts are true and correct to the best of his knowledge, information and belief. I Kelc Assistant ownship Manager Sworn to and subscribed before me this W,5,V- day of tuxes 1999. aNo6ry Public 61 NOTARIAL SEAL SHIRLEYA. BEARDSLEY, Notary Public Silver Spring Twp., Cumberland County My Commission Expires Oct. 23, 2000 ORIGINAL SILVER SPRING TOWNSHIP BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN RE: CA 98-1 Stenographic record of hearing held at 6475 Carlisle Pike, Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania November 11, 1998 5:30 p.m. BOARD OF SUPERVISORS: JAN LeBLANC, CHAIRPERSON JACKIE EAKIN MARIA LEWIS APPEARANCES: SNELBAKER, BRENNEMAN a SPARE BY: RICHARD SNELBAKER, ESQUIRE FOR - BOARD OF SUPERVISORS Debora L. Cunningham, CSR-RPR Notary Public N,,, ARCHNE REPORTING SERVICE r 2336 N. Second Street (717) 234-5922 i- Harrisburg, PA 17110 FAX (717) 234.6190 2 2 J 9 c fi 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 I N D E X WITNESS FOR APPLICANTS James Hall DIRECT 17 CROSS EXHIBITS FOR TOWNSHIP 1 - Proof of Publication 2 - Notices 3 - Letter dated October 13, 1998 4 - Letter dated October 15, 1998 MARKED 6 7 8 10 ADMITTED 6 7 8 10 13 50 54 FOR APPLICANTS 1 - Ordinance 26 2 - Pictures 3 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MS. LeBLANC: Let's call this meeting to order. All rise for the pledge of allegiance to the flag. (Pledge of allegiance.) MS. LeBLANC: This is the Board of Supervisors. It is now the time and place for the hearing of Gregg and Karen Carignan relative to Curative Amendment Application CA 98-1. At this time I would like to turn over the proceedings to Solicitor Snelbaker. MR. SNELBAKER: Good evening. This is the time and place fixed for the curative amendment hearing on matters submitted by Mr. and Mrs. Carignan. I'm going to ask for appearances at this time. Who is present here as a party tonight? We will call on you, Mr. Carignan. MR. CARIGNAN: Good evening. I'm Gregg Carignan. I own the property at 6495 Carlisle Pike. MR. SNELBAKER: Is Mrs. Carignan a party to this matter? MR. CARIGNAN: Yes. MR. SNELBAKER: We recognize her. Someone from the Township, please. MR. COOK: On behalf of the Township, my name is William Cook, Township Manager. MR. SNELBAKER: Now, is there anyone in the 4 1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 audience who is interested in this matter as a party? (No response.) MR. SNELBAKER: Seeing no one responding to that, we will proceed then on this basis. It is my understanding that the Board has fixed a limit for the testimony in this case tonight to one-and-one-half hours, 90 minutes. Am I correct on that? MS. LeBLANC: Yes. MS. EAKIN: Yes. MR. SNELBAKER: And if we do not conclude at that time, then we will return at another time to be fixed. I mention this up front because there is an agenda of some 13 items tonight for the Board to consider, and this is only one of those. But the Board recognizes that there will be some time needed. We will go for 90 minutes, and then we will come back at a later time to be established. Anybody have any problems or questions about (No response.) MR. SNELBAKER: Hearing none, the next item for the hearing will be to establish the existence of notice. Mr. Hall, I believe you're the person that 5 i .J E 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 normally gives notices in this matter. Will you indicate, please, what notices have been given. MR. HALL: The public notice has been published in the Patriot-News on October the 20th and the 27th of 1998. MR. SNELBAKER: Let the record show that I have been presented with a proof of publication from the Patriot-News, the Sunday Patriot-News, containing that observation by Mr. Hall. Mr. Carignan, do you wish to take a look at the proof of publication? MR. CARIGNAN: Yes, please. Mr. Snelbaker, it's listed in here -- we had done it on the original application. There was in excess of 20,000 square feet. That only lists 15. Secondly, part of that was because of the legal land description that we had used, it was one of the older ones, the Township had amended that. The depth was 125 feet at the point of beginning. I don't know if that has any real relevance. I just point it out. MR. SNELBAKER: You are here. You are the party that's asking for this. I assume you had notice. MR. CARIGNAN: Yes. MR. SNELBAKER: I think that the subject matter 6 J F c 1C 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 L is sufficient that anybody else out there that wants to ? read the newspaper would have picked up on it and would be S here because of it. I Let the record reflect that we're admitting into evidence the proof of publication from the newspaper. (Proof of Publication marked and admitted as Township Exhibit No. 1.) MR. SNELBAKER: Mr. Hall, any further notice? MR. HALL: Mr. Carignan was sent a notice by Mr. Cook, William Cook, the Township Manager, in letter form. That was sent on September 25, 1998, by certified mail. This mail appears to me like it did not -- that it was not picked up. The envelope is not opened. It was returned to the Township. MR. SNELBAKER: Is there an indication on it why it was being returned? MR. HALL: No, sir. It says they had notice 9/26, 10/1 and 10/9 as being returned to us. MR. SNELBAKER: Okay. MR. HALL: It was sent out a second time, and that time then we do have a return receipt that they did receive it. MR. SNELBAKER: Okay. And when was the second letter sent? Do you have a receipt for that? 7 f c lc 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 I MR. HALL: Remailed on 10/2, October 2. 3 MR. SNELBAKER: 1998? I MR. HALL: That is correct. MR. SNELBAKER: Do you want to submit those into evidence? MR. HALL: Yes. MR. SNELBAKER: Mr. Carignan, do you wish to see the letters that you received? MR. CARIGNAN: Yes. The record will indicate the change of address that's on there. That's why the other one was received. MR. SNELBAKER: Let the record reflect that the notices of September 25 and it is remailing in October on October 2 are part of the record at this point. (Notices marked and admitted as Township Exhibit No. 2.) MR. SNELBAKER: Mr. Hall, do you have any further information for us on the notice, please? MR. HALL: The only other thing that I have here is the notice, the letter that was sent to Mr. and Mrs. Carignan on October 13. That was following the Planning Commission meeting. MR. SNELBAKER: Okay. MR. HALL: That was sent certified mail. We do have a return receipt. 8 r? Ij 1 2 3 letter? 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MR. SNELBAKER: Okay. MR. SNELBAKER: Do you wish to see this MR. CARIGNAN: No. MR. SNELBAKER: Let the record reflect that we are taking into evidence a letter dated October 13, 1998, addressed to the Carignans. (Letter dated October 13, 1989, marked and admitted as Township Exhibit No. 3.) MR. SNELBAKER: Do you have any posting information, sir? MR. HALL: I do. I have -- we posted the property on November 4, 1998. Posting was done in front of his green trailer at the end of the -- along his stone driveway on the property. MR. SNELBAKER: Okay. And do you have a form of notice that was posted? MR. HALL: Formal notice? MR. SNELBAKER: The form of the notice. Do you have the form of notice? MR. HALL: I do have that submitted with the document. That's the document there. MR. SNELBAKER: In other words, it is the same as the public notice that was published in the newspaper? MR. HALL: That's exactly right. 9 i 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MR. SNELBAKER: Okay. Now, Mr. Carignan, do you have any objections to any of the material that has been produced as far as notice of this hearing? MR. CARIGNAN: No, sir, not other than the amending of the depth of the property. MR. SNELBAKER: All right. Next we have the requirement for submission of Planning Commission reports. Do we have any Planning Commission reports? MR. HALL: The Planning Commission report I just handed to you. That was mailed to him. MR. SNELBAKER: I'm sorry, I don't see a Planning Commission report. MR. HALL: This is the report that was sent to Gregg from the Assistant Manager of what happened at the Planning Commission. MR. SNELBAKER: Then as I understand it, the letter of October 13, 1998, to which reference has been made earlier, is the report of the Silver Spring Township Planning Commission, and it was sent to Mr. Carignan by certified mail. Anything else in that regard? MR. HALL: And also this is what was received from the Cumberland County Planning Commission. MR. SNELBAKER: You've handed me a letter from the Cumberland County Planning Commission dated October 15, 10 n ? e 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 J 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1998, which appears to relate to the Carignan curative amendment application. Mr. Carignan, do you have a copy of this at this point? MR. CARIGNAN; I do, sir. MR. SNELBAKER: I'm going admit that into evidence. (Letter dated October 15, 1998, marked and admitted as Township Exhibit No. 4.) MR. SNELBAKER: Now, according to the Municipality's Planning Code, the burden of proceeding and of establishing the relief that is being sought is on the Applicant. That will be the Carignans. And in order that we understand exactly what is the basis of your application, we have and I have available for the Supervisors two documents that have been filed with the Township. One is under A 98-4. The other is filed under SC 98-1, two documents that were filed. I believe that they are essentially the same with regard to the amendment or the curative amendment. Am I correct on that? MR. CARIGNAN: That's correct. I was instructed by staff to include all of them in one which was later changed after my discussions with Mr. Cook. MR. SNELBAKER: As I understand it, there is 11 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 just one application with three possible amendments. Am I correct, one submission seeking three results? MR. CARIGNAN: Yes. MR. SNELBAKER: Am I correct? MR. CARIGNAN: To the best of my knowledge. MR. SNELBAKER: I'm going hand to each of the Supervisors a set of these documents, and I'm opening it to this page. The page is entitled at the top in bold type, Challenge to the Validity of the Applicable Zoning Ordinance coupled with the curative amendment and appeal of the zoning officer and his refusal to list petitioners' nonconforming uses. This is addressed to the Supervisors of Silver Spring Township. That's the document we'll be working from. Is that correct? J MR. CARIGNAN: Yes. MR. SNELBAKER: This is off the record. (Discussion held off the record.) MR. SNELBAKER: At this point we are prepared to hear the Applicants' case. And as I understand the applicable law in this matter, the Applicant must indicate and establish the unlawfulness of the material which he seeks to have amended, and then submit for action an appropriate amendment, suggested amendment, for action by the Board. 12 I Do you understand that to be the purpose of our hearing? MR. CARIGNAN: That's correct. ,'D J 4 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 GREGG CARIGNAN, sworn. MR. CARIGNAN: Mr. Snelbaker, would you like testimony as far as -- I'm gathering what you would like first is for me to establish the detrimental effect to our property first? MR. SNELBAKER: My understanding is that you are attacking the legislation of the Township on the basis that it is unlawful. MR. CARIGNAN: That's correct. MR. SNELBAKER: In order to have the amendment, you must establish that the legislation that you have cited is unlawful, that's No. 1, and then No. 2, submit the amendment. I'm not here to tell you how do it. I will allow you to do it in the way that you believe it should be done. MR. CARIGNAN: Okay. On the burden of proof, generally on municipal law a total exclusion of a use from a municipality is generally accepted to be unlawful. You must make allowances for all uses within the municipality 13 1 3 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 unless the municipality can show that there's a reason for that exclusion, a reason being that maybe it is a small borough and located within that borough every piece of ground is essentially developed to its full extent. Therefore, a junk yard would not be able to come into that municipality because the area has already been developed to its maximum, so therefore a prohibition of the junk yard would be acceptable and legal by the prohibition. What we have with Silver Spring Township ordinances, we have cited that this Ordinance 26 is one of the ones in question. This will be Ordinance No. 26. We would like to enter it as an exhibit. (Ordinance No. 26 marked as Applicants' Exhibit No. 1.) MR. CARIGNAN: Ordinance 26, which is one of the ones that we have called into question, is a Silver Spring ordinance that was adopted by the Board of Supervisors on October 14 of 1969. The relative portions that are listed here J understand Section 4, no person shall store, park -- excuse me. Strike that. No person shall park or store any unlicensed vehicle on any street, alley, highway -- excuse me. Strike that and I will start again. No person shall park or store any unlicensed 0 14 7 -D 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 vehicle on any street, highway, or alley in Silver Spring Township. That prohibits anybody from storing any vehicle that may be unlicensed. The licensing -- MR. SNELBAKER: Before we get too far out, let me to maintain some order on the exhibits. Are you going to submit that into the record as an exhibit? MR. CARIGNAN: Yes. MR. SNELBAKER: Do you have copies made for the other parties to the case? MR. CARIGNAN: I presumed the Township had copies of their own ordinance. MR. SNELBAKER: You don't have a copy. Make certain you have exhibited that copy to Mr. Cook, please, so we are sure what we are looking at. Are you going to submit that now or at some later time? I don't want to lose it. MR. CARIGNAN: I would prefer to submit them fall at once. MR. SNELBAKER: Okay. MR. CARIGNAN: Further, the ordinance goes on to state that a vehicle, motor vehicle, shall include one or more motor vehicles including trailers or semi-trailers or parts thereof, tractors and motorcycles. Section 5 of Ordinance 26, no person shall park 15 1 ?/ 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 or store any wrecked or junked or unlicensed vehicle or parts thereof or junk on any premises - excuse me. No person shall park or store any wrecked or junked or unlicensed vehicles or parts thereof or junk on any private grounds within the Township of Silver Spring. Section 5 doesn't allow for uses within the municipality for anyone to operate a towing facility, towing company, also for service and repair facilities that normally have unlicensed vehicles that may come into the shop for service. And based on the other Section C of Ordinance 26 which determines junk as any material considered detrimental to the health, cleanliness, beauty or safety of the Township, because of the overly broad aspect of what one would consider to be junk, the code if you have a car that may be ugly, it could be considered detrimental to the beauty of the Township. Secondly, the Municipal Planning Code does not allow under the MPC Code the regulation of aesthetics on a property. The Municipal Planning Code sections that are relative and the purpose of the Municipal Planning Code under Section 501-A, the purpose -- just the relative portions of it -- I'm sorry, that's capital. Section 604, zoning purposes, the provisions of the zoning ordinance shall design to promote, protect and 16 J 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 facilitate any or all of the following: the public health, safety, morals and the general welfare coordinated and practical community development in the proper density of a population, emergency management preparedness and operations, airports and national defense facilities, the provisions of adequate light and air, access to incidental solar energy, lease protection, vehicle parking and loading space, transportation, water, sewerage, schools, recreational facilities, public grounds, provision of a safe, reliable and adequate water supply for domestic, commercial, agricultural or industrial use, and other public requirements as well as for the preservation of the natural, scenic and historic value to the environment and the preservation of forest, wetlands and flood plains. Portion two of that, to prevent one or more of the following, overcrowding of land -- MR. SNELBAKER: Let me stop you. In the interest of preserving the length of the record, are you going to read all of Section 604 of the MPC? Please cite to it. We have that. MR. CARIGNAN: Okay, 604 basically -- MR. SNELBAKER: Are you citing all of it? MR. CARIGNAN: Yes. MR. SNELBAKER: Okay. MR. CARIGNAN: So it is unnecessary for me to 17 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 read it into the record? MR. SNELBAKER: Yes. That's part of the State law. MR. CARIGNAN: Nowhere within Section 604 does it allow for the regulation of beauty. Basically all the Township -- all the Township's ordinances are to relate to the health and safety issues of the Township. The storage of wrecked vehicles or junked vehicles, any wrecked vehicles that may be within the municipality, has no bearing on a safety issue. And to get into that issue, I would like to call Mr. Hall to the stand. MR. SNELBAKER: You're certainly welcome to call Mr. Hall. JAMES HALL, sworn. MR. SNELBAKER: Do you have any objection to Mr. Hall sitting in his seat where he is now? MR. CARIGNAN: No. DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. CARIGNAN: Q Mr. Hall, can you describe your duties in the 18 J J 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 municipality? A I'm the zoning officer for the Township of Silver Spring. Q Do you have other duties within the municipality? A I'm Emergency Management Coordinator for the township. Q Do you have any other activities over and beyond that outside of the Township? A I have some other personal activities, yes. Q Such as are you involved with the fire company? A Yes, sir, I am. Q So you have the occasion to encounter dangerous activities in your duties with the fire company? A Yes, sir, I do. Q And as an Emergency Management -- I forget the term you used. A Coordinator. Q As an Emergency Management Coordinator, your job is you're there to assess dangers. Is that correct? A In part, yes, you are correct. Q To assess potential dangers and how to accommodate them and handle them? A That's correct. Q Let me see. Can you describe let's say for the 19 2 .•I ? 1 I :D J 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 purpose of the record a wrecked vehicle? What danger might that present? A A wrecked vehicle? Q Yes, that's towed into a towing facility. A Is the towing facility impounded with a fence? Q Let's say that it isn't. A There could be sharp edges on a wrecked vehicle. There could be leakage of fluids. What else do 1 you. want? Q And are you familiar with ordinance 26? A I am, sir. Q And by the leakage of fluids, is there an ordinance within the township that towing companies have to clean those up? Or what allowances are made for that? A I don't think that all towing companies are permitted to do cleanup of leakage of certain fluids. You have to be certified in hazardous material operations in order to do those recovery-type operations as may be. Now, out on the highway we do have highway technicians, HAZMAT technicians. We have operation levels of people that respond as first responders that can mitigate those leakages. Once it gets to a site, then it is the responsibility of the property owner to see that that does not happen. 20 J 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q But there are no township ordinances or regulations that regulate those leaking fluids upon a property within the Township of Silver Spring? A I don't think that there's anything in the ordinance. You're catching me totally off guard with that question. Q You're not aware then of any ordinance? A I'm not aware of it at this time. Q And if a towing and repair facility were to move within the Township, is there a requirement -- okay. Is there a requirement that would basically have them capture those fluids when they are brought onto the property? A Should be. The vehicle towed in should be stabilized in such a manner that it is not going to be leaking. Q So therefore a wrecked vehicle could be protected in such a manner when it is on the property that it could be made safe, is that what you are saying, with the leaking fluids? A That's right. Q And jagged edges on the vehicles, what dangers might they present? A They may have a case where someone would come in contact with those edges and be cut. 21 J 1 Q Do the township zoning ordinances regulate the storage of those wrecked vehicles at this point in time? A There's requirements for those kinds of facilities, yes. Q And if a fence is erected around a wrecked vehicle with jagged edges, does that mitigate the risk and danger to surrounding individuals? A That could, yes. Q Within the Township are there currently towing facilities? 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 is 1S 2( 2: 2: 2: 2 2 A Yes. Q These towing companies, do they store wrecked or junked vehicles within the municipality? A Yes. Q And would they be in violation of Ordinance 26 by doing that? A I don't know that they are. Q You don't know that they are. if Section 5 states, "No person shall park or store any wrecked or junked or unlicensed vehicles or parts thereof or junk on any private grounds within the Township of Silver Spring," what portion of that section would exempt them? A What you have, Gregg, is a stand-alone k ordinance. There are some provisions within the zoning i ordinance itself that has requirements for those kinds of 22 4 6 7 8 9 10 11 J 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 operations. Q A stand-alone ordinance. So are you saying that this one would be in conflict with the zoning ordinance? A I'm not saying it is in conflict. What I am saying is in certain districts we do permit the storing and towing of vehicles into certain areas. Q That would be within which zoning ordinance? A That would be in our 195, 1995 zoning ordinance. Q 1995. Do you have a copy of the 1995 zoning ordinance? A Yes, sir. Q Could you find that section for us, please? MR. SNELBAKER: Do you know what it is? Do you know what it is so we can expedite things? MR. CARIGNAN: Mr. Hall is more familiar with the zoning ordinances than I am. I seek his -- MR. SNELBAKER: Okay. THE WITNESS: In the C-3 zoning district under Section 212.3, the conditional uses, the zoning ordinance does provide for automobile, bus, boat, motorcycle, snowmobile, trailer, truck, farm machinery, mobile home services, repair facilities, including but not limited to automotive, auto mechanics, drive-through lubrication 23 7) J 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 services and so on. In that realm there's a possibility that could be used there. BY MR. CARIGNAN: Q A possibility. So what you are stating for the record then is that it would be a similar use? A It would be a similar use. It would have to come before the Board of Supervisors through the conditional use process. Q Through the conditional use process. But those that were established prior to the 195 zoning ordinances, have they been granted their conditional use permits? A Conditional use permit? Q Yes. A They are nonconforming. If there's one -- if a conditional use is granted by the Board of Supervisors. Any new facility coming in like that would have to go through the conditional use process. Q Any new. What we are talking about is established ones prior to the ordinance? A If they are already here, they are grandfathered through. Q They are grandfathered through. What makes them grandfathered? A Because they were here prior to the '95 zoning ordinance. 24 q E 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q So their mere presence of being here? A Right. Q So let's -- the C-3 zone, when did that come into existence? A October of 1995 is when the ordinance was adopted. Q Prior to that we are dealing with the 1976 zoning ordinance. Is that correct? A That's correct. Q You have a copy of the 1996 zoning ordinance? A Yes, sir. Q And in that section, can you turn to Section 800-23. And what we are looking at is 809.1, prohibition of uses, specifically No. 5. Could you read that into the record, please, Mr. Hall? A Would you name that section again, please? Q We are in Section 809.1 A5. A Okay. No. 5 says, outdoor storage of any type shall not be permitted unless such storage is part of normal operations conducted on the premises subject to design and performance standards for the prevailing zoning district. Junk yards as defined by this ordinance are expressly prohibited. Q Now, can you find definition of junk yard in this ordinance for us, Section 100-13? 25 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A Okay. Q And could you read No. 74, definition of junk yard into the record, please? A It says junk yard, an area of land with or without buildings used for storage outside and completely -- a completely enclosed building of used and discarded materials including but not limited to wastepaper, rags, materials, metal, building materials, home furnishing, machinery, vehicles or parts thereof with or without the dismantling process, salvage, sale or other use of the disposition of the same. A deposit of storage on a lot of two or more unlicensed, wrecked or disabled vehicles or the major part thereof shall be deemed to make a junk yard. Q Okay, now are you aware of any junkyards that were permitted in the 1976 zoning ordinance? A That was before my time here as zoning officer. I don't recall at this point if there was or there wasn't. I wasn't paying attention to the zoning ordinances back then. Q Are you not in receipt of a nonconforming use list left to you by your predecessor? A I do have that. I don't recall one being on there. I don't have it with me. Q Is it valid to say that there were no operating 26 J 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 junk yards within the Municipality of Silver Spring? MR. SNELBAKER: I believe he has already answered that question. I think he said he doesn't know based upon his lack of personal attention. BY MR. CARIGNAN: Q And when were you employed by the Township of Silver Spring, Mr. Hall? A In October 1992. Q October 1992. So a use during the 1976 zoning ordinance would have carried up until 1995. Is that correct? A That could be, yes. Q And in your duties as the zoning officer, do you not travel throughout the Township? A I do. Q And would it be your testimony today if there were two vehicles located upon -- two wrecked or unlicensed vehicles located upon a property prior to 1995 and the adoption of the new zoning ordinance, would they now be a nonconforming use? MR. SNELBAKER: If you know the answer. THE WITNESS: I don't know that I can answer that at this point. BY MR. CARIGNAN: Q Do you recall your earlier testimony that 27 J J 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 stated that if a towing facility was in existence prior to the adoption of the 1995 zoning ordinance, that they would be grandfathered in? A I think I did say that, yes. Q Would it not be the same as a facility that stored two or more disabled or wrecked vehicles? A If it is lawful. The same way with the towing facility if it was a lawful facility. Q And what I'm asking you, under the determination of what you have just read into the record of what a junk yard is, would that not prevent any towing companies within the municipality? A I don't think it would. Q Why not? What is the basis for that decision? A As zoning officers, we have to go back and research each one one-on-one to determine whether it is permitted or if it is not permitted. Sitting here on the stand, so to speak, is not going to get you the answer that you're going to want to get at this point in time. If you want me to sit here and research each one of your questions as you are asking them, we can do it. I don't know that you will have the time to do that. What you should maybe do is submit a list of questions that we can answer for you. 28 11' 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q A list of questions? A As your line of questioning now. Q What are your responsibilities and duties as a zoning officer, Mr. Hall? A I think we have already established that. Q When did we establish that? A You had asked me that earlier here. Q I asked you what you did in the municipality. What are your duties as the zoning officer? Let's go by the 1976 Zoning Ordinance. MR. SNELBAKER: I don't believe he was the zoning officer under the 1976 zoning ordinance, were you? MR. HALL: Not when it was adopted. I was assistant zoning officer. MR. SNELBAKER: I'm sorry. You were hired while it was in its last stages. I'm sorry. I BY MR. CARIGNAN: J Q Would you read your responsibilities then as dictated by the 1976 Zoning Ordinance? A Do you have a page that it is listed on? Apparently you do. Q Yes. That would be Section 1001.2. Your duties under 1001.2 A6, can you read that in the record, please, Mr. Hall? A A? 29 ,..J 1 Q A6. Section 1001.2, under duties, A6. 2 A It says here under duties, the duties of the 3 zoning officer shall be to examine all applications for t permits, to issue permits only for the construction and the i use -- 6? 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MR. SNELBAKER: I believe he has asked only for Item 6. THE WITNESS: Okay. Inspect nonconforming uses, buildings, and signs and to keep a file, a record of each nonconforming use and building as a public record and to examine them periodically. BY MR. CARIGNAN: Q Okay. And as you had stated before, you do have the nonconforming use list that was inherited by you from Mr. Banks. Is that right? A I do. Q How many times did you go out and inspect those nonconforming uses from that list? MR. SNELBAKER: I'm going to interject a concern about his performance as zoning officer. We are here to deal -- I'm understanding you are dealing with Ordinance No. 26 at the present time. MR. CARIGNAN: That's correct. MR. SNELBAKER: Since Ordinance 26 is not a zoning ordinance, I'm not quite sure I understand quite 30 3 IJ 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 where we are going. In any event, I'm not sure that his performance as the zoning officer has anything to do with the legality of ordinance 26. So let's try to keep the testimony in line with Ordinance 26. MR. CARIGNAN: What we are trying to show with Ordinance 26, Mr. Snelbaker -- MR. SNELBAKER: Yes. MR. CARIGNAN: -- is that under the definition of Ordinance 26 and then as it applies to the zoning ordinances, okay, they are pretty much a prohibition of the MR. SNELBAKER: I understand your theory, and that's going to be your argument as part of this. I'm not sure that Mr. Hall's actions as a zoning officer will help to clarify any of that. His duties are whatever they are and however they were performed. We are dealing here with Ordinance 26 as I understand it that you claim is unlawful. MR. CARIGNAN: And we also cited sections of the 1976 zoning ordinance. MR. SNELBAKER: Okay. I thought we were only dealing with 26 at this point. It is the only one that has been offered into evidence at this point. BY MR. CARIGNAN: Q The junk yards and your inspection of those 31 1 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 / 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 J 25 nonconforming uses, Mr. Hall, would it be your duty to review those by the interpretation of what your duties are? A To review the nonconforming uses? Q Yes, and to inspect them. A On a periodic basis. Q On a periodic basis. And also if there were a junk yard listed, you would also have inspected that. Is that correct? A We don't normally go out unless there's a problem to do an inspection of a property. Usually if there's a complaint that comes in, that's when we do the inspection. Q But under your duties it says to examine them periodically? A That's right. MR. SNELBAKER: Again, Mr. Carignan, I don't want to stop you from developing your case, but whether he went out and inspected it I think is really not very relevant as to whether or not this ordinance is lawful. BY MR. CARIGNAN: Q Mr. Hall, can you tell us Ordinance 26, have you found any conflicts between ordinance 26 and the 1976 zoning ordinance? MR. SNELBAKER: You are talking now about the terms, the definitions and the provisions? 32 1 tJ f c 1C 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 is 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1 MR. CARIGNAN: Yes. MR. SNELBAKER: I don't believe that Mr. Hall 3 is qualified to answer that. I think this is a matter of l argument, legal argument, which we will hear from you at i the appropriate time. If you have something you wish to state in that regard, please do. MR. CARIGNAN: In Section No. 5, which you read into the record in Ordinance 26, Mr. Hall, no person shall store, park -- do you recall that portion of Ordinance 26? A Ordinance 26? I haven't read anything on Ordinance 26. Q Section No. 5. A It says, no person shall park or store any wrecked or junked or unlicensed vehicles or parts thereof or junk on any private grounds within the Township of Silver Spring. MR. SNELBAKER: For clarification, what are you reading from, sir? THE WITNESS 1 26. I'm reading from Ordinance No. MR. SNELBAKER: Exhibit? THE WITNESS: Exhibit No. 1 of the Applicant. BY MR. CARIGNAN: Q So under that, as I asked you before, how would a towing company be able to operate within the 33 1 2 3 4 D 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 municipality? How would a junk yard be able to sustain its use within the municipality? MR. SNELBAKER: You have asked two questions. Which one do you want answered? BY MR. CARIGNAN: Q How would a towing company be able to sustain its use within the municipality under ordinance 26? A Does that say that a towing company is not (lawful? Q Does a towing company store wrecked or junked I vehicles? A They could. Q They could. So how would they be able to operate within the Township under Ordinance 26? MR. SNELBAKER: Again, I'm going to stop that line of questioning on the basis that this is calling for the opinion of an interpretation of a nonzoning ordinance with a zoning ordinance. And as i understand it, Mr. Hall is not necessarily the enforcer of Ordinance 26. So I want -- so I think it is appropriate for you to argue all of these points as matters of your legal argument case, but his interpretation is not going to be binding on the Board in any event. MR. CARIGNAN: We understand that. What we are trying to establish is the conflict -- 34 4 5 3 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MR. SNELBAKER: Please do. MR. CARIGNAN: -- between the zoning ordinance and Ordinance 26. MR. SNELBAKER: You state it. We are here to hear that. You have your -- you have every right to make your argument and interpretation. I would be pleased to hear it right now if you are ready to make it. MR. CARIGNAN: What we are trying to do is establish that with Mr. Hall. MR. SNELBAKER: You are trying to establish it through Mr. Hall's interpretation of it. You have a couple of ordinances, three, I believe, at this point. And if you are trying to establish conflicts, I think those are matters of law. All of the testimony that Mr. Hall is going to give is not going to clarify that. Please go ahead with your argument. I would be happy to hear it. MR. CARIGNAN: We are still cross-examining Mr. Hall. MR. SNELBAKER: I understand. But we are going to have to stick to facts, things that are facts that he knows about. BY MR. CARIGNAN: Q Mr. Hall, does Miller & Sam operate a towing 35 J 1 1. l: 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1 facility within the Municipality? 2 A They do. 3 4 Do they store one or more wrecked or junked 4 vehicles? 5 A They have. 6 0 Do they have an exception to Ordinance 26? 7 A Offhand, I can't tell you if they do or if they S don't. 3 4 Are you familiar with the adjoining property of that that houses Dan's Frame Shop, Smith Auto Repair and also the Beecher's Body Shop? A Yes, sir. 4 And would you say there are wrecked or disabled or junked vehicles on that property? A There could be. 4 There could be. When was the last time you were on that property? A I don't recall the last I was on the property. 4 Have you had the occasion recently to drive on the southbound side of the Carlisle Pike? A I have. 4 And have you driven by the Groff Tractor building? A I have. 4 And have you observed passing Groff's Smith's 36 1 Auto? 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A I have. Q Have you seen wrecked or disabled vehicles from the road there? A I can't tell you that the vehicles sitting there are disabled. Q Do they look wrecked? MR. SNELBAKER: I hate to limit the exchange (here, Mr. Carignan, but what happens on someone's property, I'm failing to see how that bears upon the unlawfulness of the ordinance. I don't see anything in here, in your application, that deals with this concept of what other people are doing. I fail to see what that is. Can you explain it to me? MR. CARIGNAN: That would be under selective enforcement. MR. SNELBAKER: We were not dealing here with selective enforcement. We are dealing with the 11J unlawfulness of an ordinance. MR. CARIGNAN: Unlawfulness of an ordinance and also Mr. Hall had listed the nonconforming uses which is part of his duties. Is that not correct? MR. SNELBAKER: Well, again, his duties are really irrelevant to the quality of the ordinance that you have under attack. 37 1( 17 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1 Perhaps you would like to state your argument 2 so I can hear it, then maybe I will understand what the 3 facts are. 4 MR. CARIGNAN: Part of my formulation in this, 5 since the Township when the complaint was originally issued 5 in this last contempt action didn't state what ordinances I 7 was in violation of -- MR. SNELBAKER: Let me understand that you are now reflecting upon the Common Pleas Court case which specifically held that you were operating an unlawful facility on the property that you occupy. MR. CARIGNAN: I object to that characterization. MR. SNELBAKER: Well, that's what the decision MR. CARIGNAN: No, the decision was that I was enjoined from stored, wrecked, junked, including wrecked and disabled vehicles and trailers. MR. SNELBAKER: Whatever that was is a matter that is now completed. That has been found. It's been tried. It's been appealed twice, and it has now become final. So that whenever occurs under that particular case is certainly nothing that's part of this case tonight. We're dealing here with an ordinance. We are not dealing with a case at the common pleas level. And we 38 ro? 1 will not relitigate that case or the reasons for it. 2 That's finished. 3 MR. CARIGNAN: The underlying action on the 4 constitutional issues and the total prohibition of use 5 reflects back to that. 6 MR. SNELBAKER: Please feel free to argue that, 7 but not in the sense that there is something still 8 pending. In connection with this proceeding at the 9 Cumberland County Courthouse, that is another matter and 10 that's not before us tonight. 11 MR. CARIGNAN: That I understand. 12 MR. SNELBAKER: Okay. 13 MR. CARIGNAN: That's no problem. 14 BY MR. CARIGNAN: 15 Q Mr. Hall, does Ordinance 26 deal with uses of 16 land, use of land? 17 A I think -- I don't have a copy of that in front 18 of me, Gregg. It deals with the storing of vehicles on 19 private property within the township or any street or 20 highway or alley within Silver Spring Township. 21 Q Would that be a defined use of the land? 22 A Defined use? 23 Q Would that be defined as a use ol: 1,- 24 A No, it just defines it as the parking and J 25 storing of vehicles on private property within the township 'ti 39 3 .J 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 or any street, highway, alley of Silver Spring Township. Q Is that regulating the use of land? Is that a land use regulation, in your opinion, if you cannot store that? MR. SNELBAKER: Again, Mr. Carignan, that's the argument that you make. Mr. Hall's opinion on that is totally irrelevant to us. MR. CARIGNAN: It would be a common sense interpretation by someone. MR. SNELBAKER: You make it. You make it. Go ahead and make it. MR. CARIGNAN: What I'm saying is it is common sense. So by interpreting Mr. Hall -- okay. Mr. Hall's interpretation is it is not clear. Then it is too vague and ambiguous. MR. SNELBAKER: That's an argument. Please I make it. MR. CARIGNAN: I understand that. What I am trying to show is if he has difficulties interpreting those ordinances and what he relates to that, the average public isn't getting an adequate description. MR. SNELBAKER: That's the argument that we are here to hear you make in connection with whatever contentions you make. MR. CARIGNAN: I'm getting evidence to that 40 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 D 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 effect since Mr. Hall has some difficulty in ascertaining what they mean and their conflicts. I think that helps to support my case. MR. SNELBAKER: I understand your contention, but I'm going to rule that his opinion on the quality of a nonzoning ordinance is not relevant in this matter. You're challenging Ordinance No. 26, as I understand it, which is not part of the zoning ordinance. MR. CARIGNAN: It was adopted as what type of ordinance then if it is not a land use regulation ordinance, 26? It was adopted right around the same time that the 1968 municipal planning code came into effect. Is it your position that this ordinance is not part of the land use regulation and wasn't adopted under the MPC code? MR. SNELBAKER: My understanding is that ordinance No. 68 is not a zoning ordinance -- I'm sorry, Ordinance No. 26, 26 is not a zoning ordinance. MR. CARIGNAN: And by your interpretation of not a zoning ordinance, okay, that means it is not contained within the zoning ordinance? MR. SNELBAKER: t< ruling on a matter of evidence. I'm not here to debaLo that with you. I want to hear argument on why Ordinance No. 26 is unlawful and how it comes under the curative amendment procedures of the 41 3 J 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Municipality's Planning Code. We don't need Mr. Hall's testimony to hear -- to get to that point. MR. CARIGNAN: How it falls under the Municipal Planning Code, is that what you are saying? MR. SNELBAKER: Yes. I'm sure he doesn't know. It is not within his responsibility to know how things were enacted. But you're welcome to make that argument to the Board. I would like to hear it in all its detail. I think that's important. MR. CARIGNAN: So do I. MR. SNELBAKER: You make it. MR. CARIGNAN: What I would ask of the Board is to present me with the adopted ordinance for Ordinance No. 26 so that I might be able to review those to see under which section of the municipal code that that was adopted. I would be happy to present that argument then. MR. SNELBAKER: I'm not sure I understand what you are asking for. What is it that you want? MR. CARIGNAN: The enactment and what is the empowering act that Ordinance 26 was adopted under. MR. SNELBAKER: I can tell you that that ordinance was enacted pursuant of the authorization of the Second Class Township Code. And that's the response. It is the only response that can be given. You are asking for what implements or what 42 1 gives power to the Board of Supervisors to do it. The 2 Second Class Township which is the source of all of its 3 power. 4 MR. CARIGNAN: And also a portion of that then 5 empowers them under the MPC. Is that correct? 6 MR. SNELBAKER: Well, the MPC comes into play. 7 They must come under the MPC, certainly. 8 MR. CARIGNAN: The Municipal Planning Code was 9 enacted in -- i? J 10 MR. SNELBAKER: I don't want to engage in a 11 debate. I want to hear your argument. 12 MR. CARIGNAN: Where on that adoption of that 13 particular ordinance, where will I find that within the 14 municipal regulations or your municipal records? 15 MR. SNELBAKER: You mean the Second Class 16 Township Code? 17 MR. CARIGNAN: The Second Class Township Code, 18 I'm aware of that. I can get that from the Cumberland 19 County Law Library. That's not a problem at all. What I 20 would like to find out is the adoption of that ordinance 21 and the paperwork and how that was listed. That was not 22 given to me. 23 MR. SNELBAKER: 24 look at it, your exhibit? 25 MR. CARIGNAN: I have not seen AX-1. May I That would be Ordinance 26? 43 e o*) 3 2 3 4 5 3 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MR. SNELBAKER: Yes. Do you have it? Mr. Hall has it. I have not looked at the actual ordinance book. It would appear it came from the actual ordinance book of the township. MR. CARIGNAN: That's correct. The enacting authority, and then the listing is what I am looking for when it was advertised and under the empowering act when you adopted the ordinance. The empowering act is listed upon that. Is that not correct? MR. SNELBAKER: I think I've already answered that the Second Class Township Code authorizes the township supervisors to enact various regulations. And this would have been one of those. Now, as far as advertising and all of those things, when was that enacted? MR. CARIGNAN: 1969. MR. SNELBAKER: 1969. If such records exist, they would be someplace in the archives of the Township. In any event, the lawfulness or the procedural lawfulness of that enactment has long since been validated by its pure existence. I think there's a provision under the law for an appeal on a challenge of the enactment of an ordinance, I think something like 30 days or some such provision. All of that has long since passed. This is an ordinance that's on the books. So how it was enacted, 44 r o*) J 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 talking procedurally about it, it has long since been validated by its mere existence. MR. CARIGNAN: By its mere existence. Then I have a slight problem then in interpreting that. You can't challenge a zoning ordinance or these ordinances unless there's a conflict that arises. That was the case you presented in Konhaus unless someone goes to use the land in conflict, therefore the ordinance adoption can't be called into question. MR. SNELBAKER: Let's -- let me stop you. Let's not mix two cases that are presently pending. Your observation of what was raised in the Konhaus case is erroneous. That's as far as I'm going to go on that. That's inapplicable to this one for many reasons. You have the right to challenge the lawfulness of this ordinance, not its enactment. The enactment is at this point presumed to be lawful. Its existence and its meaning and the things which deal with curative amendments if a curative amendment is applicable to Ordinance 26, you have every right in the world to challenge and to present argument to us. MR. CARIGNAN: It is your determination that the storage of junked vehicles is in Mr. Hall's interpretation, and enforcement of that is irrelevant in this proceeding? 45 3 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MR. SNELBAKER: How Mr. Hall enforces Ordinance 26 is certainly irrelevant in this matter because I understand he doesn't enforce it. MR. CARIGNAN: He doesn't enforce it? MR. SNELBAKER: It is not a zoning ordinance, in other words. MR. CARIGNAN: Under No. 26, with the exception of motor vehicles regularly used for transportation by the owner/occupant -- within Silver Spring no motor vehicle, junked, wrecked or otherwise shall be stored on said premise unless the keeping or storage of the same has been approved by the township supervisors. MR. SNELBAKER: Ordinance 26? MR. CARIGNAN: Ordinance 26, yes, sir. BY MR. CARIGNAN: Q Mr. Hall, are you aware of any approval of the storing of any junked or wrecked vehicles or otherwise within the Municipality of Silver Spring? A To answer your question, I'd have to go back through the records. I can't tell you, Gregg, offhand. Q So you're saying that you don't know right offhand? A Offhand, I don't know. Q But that can be ascertained and you can find 46 n ,Z) I 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A That's what I said. I'd have to go back through the records to find out. Q How long do you think it would take you to find those records? MR. SNELBAKER: Let's take that off the record at some point. MR. CARIGNAN: I just wanted a time frame so I can come back to request from Mr. Hall when I could receive those documents. MR. SNELBAKER: Do you have the nonconforming use documents? MR. CARIGNAN: Not with me, no. MR. SNELBAKER: But you have them? MR. CARIGNAN: I have the nonconforming use I list. MR. SNELBAKER: Then you have it, as I understand. Is that right? MR. CARIGNAN: I have a listing of what was listed back in 1976. But what I'm asking since it is your claim that Ordinance 26 or your statement that Ordinance 26 is not a zoning or land use regulation then is is there a separate listing for Ordinance 26 exceptions. MR. SNELBAKER: Is there such a list? Do you know of such a list? THE WITNESS: I don't know. 47 l D 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MR. SNELBAKER: You don't know? THE WITNESS: I don't know. BY MR. CARIGNAN: Q Is there a form for the storage and keeping of these vehicles? A A form? Q Yes, that has been devised by the Township such as an application form for an occupancy permit, use permit, planning commission, you know, applications, building permits, etc. Is there a form submitted for this? A I'm not aware that there is any form. I don't know that there is a form. Q Has anyone asked you to apply for that? A Asked me personally? No, not that I'm aware of. Q And your duties as a zoning officer started I when? A What's that have to do with this line of questioning? I think we already went down that street, didn't we? J Q What I'm trying to establish is when you were hired and when Ordinance 26 was still being utilized. MR. SNELBAKER: I think that's already -- he's indicated he was hired in 1992. MR. CARIGNAN: Was he the zoning officer at 48 ' ,..1 3 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 that time? I guess that's the question. THE WITNESS: I was assistant zoning officer at the time. BY MR. CARIGNAN: Q In 1992? A That's right. Q Did you have other duties besides that? Were you not Codes Enforcement Officer? A Assistant to the Code Enforcement officer, yes. Q And Zoning Officer? A Right. Q Assistant Zoning Officer, excuse me. So if an application was made, it would have been either to you or your predecessor at that time, Mr. Banks? MR. SNELBAKER: For what, please? MR. CARIGNAN: For permission to store wrecked vehicles, junked or otherwise in the municipality. MR. SNELBAKER: Under Ordinance 26? MR. CARIGNAN: Under Ordinance 26. THE WITNESS: I don't recall any applications being made. BY MR. CARIGNAN: Q Okay. To be in compliance with Ordinance 26, doesn't a towing company also have to have that permit? Would you like to see Section 6, Mr. Hall? 49 n D 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A What was your question again? Q Would not a towing company need to have an exception from Ordinance 26 to be in operation? A In other words, you're asking me if they had permission by the Supervisors to operate? Q What I'm asking you is under Ordinance 26, would a towing facility need to acquire permission to store wrecked vehicles within the municipality? A I think what your question is asking is something under the other zoning ordinance. This is a totally different ordinance. Q What I'm asking you, Mr. Hall, is how can the two run parallel to each other and you be in compliance to both? MR. SNELBAKER: That's where I am going to have to draw the line. That calls for his opinion. I want you to make that argument. MR. CARIGNAN: MR. SNELBAKER: BY MR. CARIGNAN: I will make that argument. You make the argument. Q Once again, if a body shop stores two or more wrecked vehicles outside, do they have to have an exemption or permission from the Township Supervisors? MR. SNELBAKER: Under what ordinance, sir? MR. CARIGNAN: Ordinance 26. 50 i 1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 THE WITNESS: I would have to take that under advisement. BY MR. CARIGNAN: Q Your duties as the zoning officer -- are you in charge? You are not in charge of enforcement of Ordinance 26. Is that correct? A Zoning officers rarely enforce that particular ordinance. Q Why is that, Mr. Hall? A Usually the police department enforces Ordinance No. 26. Q And why is that that the police department is in charge of ordinance 26? MR. SNELBAKER: If you know. THE WITNESS: I don't know that I know the answer to that. MR. CARIGNAN: I'll show you some pictures. We will mark these as Applicants' 2. (Pictures marked as Applicants' Exhibit No. 2.) MR. SNELBAKER: What are they? MR. CARIGNAN: They are vehicles. BY MR. CARIGNAN: Q Mr. Hall, this is AX-2. Do you recognize -- MR. SNELBAKER: Is this part of the selective enforcement argument? 51 71. D J li 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1 MR. CARIGNAN: No, this goes to Ordinance 26, 2 the storage of wrecked and disabled vehicles. 3 MR. SNELBAKER: Does this have to do with 4 selective enforcement? 5 MR. CARIGNAN: No, it goes to obtaining a 5 permit as required under Ordinance 26. 7 MR. SNELBAKER: On a property other than your 3 property which is the subject of this preceding. Right? MR. CARIGNAN: That's correct. MR. SNELBAKER: Somebody else's property? MR. CARIGNAN: This is the property that mine is subdivided from. Okay. MR. SNELBAKER: I understand the question. I fail to see what the relevancy of someone else's property has in relation to Ordinance 26. I am still concerned that we are dealing with the legality of that particular piece of legislation. If somebody else is violating it or if somebody else has a permit or if somebody else has an exemption is not going to be relevant to whether or not the ordinance is lawful. I'm not trying to limit you. I'm trying to confine it to what you have told us. MR. CARIGNAN: I understand that. MR. SNELBAKER: A. MR. CARIGNAN: What I'm trying to show is the 52 r,. 0 V 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 exclusionary portion of this zoning ordinance, that no one has been granted an exemption and permission to do that. i understand that I must present evidence to the effect, whether someone does or does not have permit. If no one within the municipality has junked vehicles that are stored within the municipality and no one has an exemption, then none of them are lawful under Ordinance 26. MR. SNELBAKER: So there's no misunderstanding, it would be my interpretation of the several ordinances of the township that somebody that is operating a lawful body shop is going to have wrecked vehicles. That is their business and they come under whatever those rules are dealing with body shops. And I believe that Mr. Hall has already indicated that they are under some sections of some zoning classifications under the zoning ordinance. That is not the same as the violation or the implementation of Ordinance 26. I'm simply going to tell you that the two don't mix. MR. CARIGNAN: The two don't mix. Just the mere presence of the wrecked vehicles makes them mix. MR. SNELBAKER: That's an argument. MR. CARIGNAN: That's what you want to do is separate the two when the two commingle. 53 n 1 I MR. SNELBAKER: That's your argument. You make 2 that to me. L 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 3 MR. CARIGNAN: That's what I'm trying to show 4 through Mr. Hall's testimony if that's the case. 5 MR. SNELBAKER: Ask him whether or not that is 6 a body shop, and then I think we would get right to the 7 heart of it, don't we? 3 MR. CARIGNAN: Why would that be? We are dealing with the storage of wrecked and disabled vehicles. Whether it is a body shop or not goes to the ordinances that you say are separate from what we are dealing here. MR. SNELBAKER: Mr. Carignan, let me make it clear again that if it is a lawfully constituted body shop in Silver Spring Township, it is going to have wrecked vehicles. There's just no question about it. That's their business and they are a lawful businesses in this township and therefore will comply with those particular parts of the ordinance that control them and not Ordinance No. 26. I'm just trying to cut to the chase on this thing because I don't want to have the two confused. MR. CARIGNAN: Okay. MR. SNELBAKER: I think that's only appropriate for the Board to keep them separated. MR. COOK: It is 7:00. The Board indicated an hour and a half. Due to the length of the agenda, I would 54 I'D V 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 ask that that be enforced. MR. SNELBAKER: I turn to the Chair. We will have to find another time to continue this hearing. MS. LeBLANC: I was going suggest the next workshop session. Does that sound reasonable? (Discussion held off the record.) MS. LeBLANC: We will do the continuation of this hearing at 5:30 on the 18th, and then the regular meeting will start at 7:00 as was advertised at the beginning of the year. MR. CARIGNAN: 5:30 on the 18th of November.. Can I move for the admission of our two exhibits? MR. SNELBAKER: I think you only have one that's been testified to. That's Ordinance 26. We will certainly admit that. Do you want to hand that up? We will put that with the stack. MR. CARIGNAN: We had two of these. MR. SNELBAKER: Just hold on to that. MR. CARIGNAN: I will. (Applicants' Exhibit No. 1 admitted into evidence.) MR. SNELBAKER: For the record, it's my understanding that the hearing now is being recessed and will be continued at 5:30 p.m. on November 18, 1998, at this building. 55 D IJ 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 And you do understand that there will be no further notice given of that? MR. CARIGNAN: I understand, Mr. Snelbaker. MR. SNELBAKER: We will not be giving any further published notices since this is going to be a continuation of a lawfully noticed hearing. MS. LeBLANC: We will now adjourn the public hearing and take a five-minute recess so that Mr. Carignan has time to clear the front of the room. (The hearing was adjourned at 7:05 p.m.) e 56 .P„ D 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 I hereby certify that the proceedings and evidence are contained fully and accurately in the notes taken by me on the within proceedings and that this is a correct transcript of the same. R Debora L. Cunningham, CSR- Notary Public ORDINANCE NO. 26 SPRING TOWNSHIP. CUMs 1 i BE IT ENACTED AND ORDAINED BY THE SUPERVISORS OF SILVER SPRING TOWNSHIP, CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA, AND IT IS HERESY ENACTED AND ORDAINED BY THE AUTHORITY Or' THE SAME. SECTION 1. DEFINIxIONS - Unless the context specifically indicates otnerwise the meaning of terms used in this Ordinance shall be as follows: (a) Vehicle or Motor Vehicle shall include one or more motor vehicles, including trailers or semi-trailers and parts thereof, tractors and motorcycles. (b) Person shall include every person, firm partnership, association or corporation. (c) Junk any material considered detrimental to the health, cleanliness, beauty or safety of the Township. SECTION 2. No person shall park or store a vehicle upon any street, highway or alley of Silver Spring Township for the purpose of repairing, assemblin! ?r disassembling such vehicle except for repairs necessitated by an emergency. SECTION 3• No person shall park or store any abandoned, wrecked or junked vehicle or parts thereof' on any street, highway or alley in Silver Spring Township. SECTION 4. No person shall park or store any unlicensed vehicle on any street, highway or alley in Silver Spring Township. ° rr A L I j SECTION 5. No person shall park or store any wracked or ,junked . 7 or unlicensed vehicle or parts thereof or junk on any private grounds within the Township of Silver Spring. SECTION 6. .,xception of motor vehicles regularly used for transportation by the owner or occupant of private grounds within the Township of Silver Spring, no motor vehicle, junked or wrecked or otherwise, shall be stored on said premises unless the keeping or storage of the same has been approved 3 by the Township Supervisors. SECTION 7. Any person desiring to store or to continue . to store motor vehicles on private grounds except those kept for the purpose set out in Section 2 shall apply in writing to the Township ' . Supervisors for a permit setting forth the location and description + ( of the land on which said motor vehicles are to be placed, the number and nature thereof, the manner of storage, the length and purpose for the storage. SECTION 8. Any person in violation of any provisions of this Ordinance shall be given 10 days written notice to remove w ;, )) the vehicle or abate the nuisance. j SECTION 9. Any person violating any provisions of this . i Ordinance or aiding, abetting or assisting in the violation of C its provisions shall upon conviction thereof, be sentenced to j , pay a fine of not less than $25.00 or more than $100.00 and costs. r : of prosecution, and if in default of payment of such fine or costs to undergo imprisonment for not less than 10 days or more than 30 . i days. Each 10 days that prohibited conditions are maintained shall constitute a separate offense. '-? SECTION 10. In case of unclaimed or unidentified vehicles, "++a: the Township may dispose of same after proper clearance of the An j Silver Spring Township Police. A-! Ij SECTION 11. All persons who at the date of the adoption of tnis t Ordinance who are in violation thereof, shall be given written notice allowing 30 days to conform with provisions of this Ordinance. SECTION 12. All Ordinances or parts of Ordinances in conflict herewith shall be and the same are repealed, ORDAINED AND ENACTED this 14th. day of October 1969. + ?L ;y Supervisors of' Silver Spring Township CUMBERLAND COUN'T'Y, PENNSYLVANIA Chairman ATTEST: ecretary SILVER SPRING TOWNSHIP BOARD OF SUPERVISORS' MEETING IN RE: GREGG & KAREN CARIGNAN CURATIVE AMENDMENT APPLICATION CA 98-1 Stenographic record of hearing held at Silver Spring Township Municipal Building, 6475 Carlisle Pike, Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania Wednesday, November 18, 1998 5:30 p.m. BOARD OF SUPERVISOR MEMBERS: William Dunn, Chairman Wayne Pecht, Member Maria L. Lewis, Member Jan N. LeBlanc, Member APPEARANCE: SNELBAKER, BRENNEMAN & SPARE, P.C. BY: RICHARD C. SNELBAKER, ESQUIRE FOR - SILVER SPRING TOWNSHIP Jan L. Bucher Court Reporter-Notary _ ARCHIVE REPORTING SERVICE - 2336 N. Second Street (717) 234.5922 1- Harrisburg, PA 17110 FAX (717) 234.6190 n 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 2 I N D E X SPEAKERS PAGE Chairman Dunn 3 Mr. Snelbaker 3 Mr. Carignan 4 Mr. Pecht 9 Ms. LeBlanc 9 n 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 THE CHAIRMAN: The first item on the agenda is a public hearing, Curative Amendment Application 98-1. I turn it over to the solicitor to conduct the hearing. MR. SNELBAKER: This is the time and place that was fixed for the continued hearing which began on November 9th and, as announced at the end of that hearing, would reconvene this evening at 5:30 and we would go until the regular meeting. I believe that the staff has requested that they have an opportunity to reset- the room; therefore, we would go until a quarter til seven, 6:45. Let me make an announcement. Mr. Carignan, you may want to give your attention to this since this will involve you. Since the last hearing I've had a chance to again review the material which you have submitted in the form of your challenges to the substance of several ordinances. And I've also recalled the testimony that had been proffered here at our meeting on the 9th. And it is my position on the way that this is going that we indeed have some rather structured proceedings from here on out. I will -- or the Board, not I -- the Board will not hear any further evidence on the challenges to Ordinance 26, which has been sometimes called the Junk Car Ordinance, nor on the former zoning ordinance which is the 1976 version. 4 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 The Board is of the opinion that ordinance 26 does not come within the curative amendment proceedings of the municipality's planning code and that since ordinance 76 has been replaced -- that is, Zoning Ordinance of 1976 has been replaced by the ordinance of 3.995, that any discussion on it would, therefore, be moot. That leaves us then with any challenge that you might have with the 1995 zoning ordinance. And we're going to ask you to confine production of evidence to that particular challenge, if you have any. We will receive and we invite you, as I had invited you several times at the other meeting, to provide us with oral argument on any of the challenges that you want. We're not in any way attempting to limit your ability to make an argument in support of your challenge. So as far as production or receipt of evidence is concerned, we're going to confine it to the 195 Act. Now, do you have any questions of what I just said? MR. CARIGNAN: I would pose an objection to that based on -- what case law are we relying upon for the rejection of ordinance 26? Are there any case law that you're going to be citing? MR. SNELBAKER: I'm not citing any particular cases. I'm simply saying that Ordinance 26 is not a b ^1 D F c 1C 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1 zoning ordinance and does not come within the purview of 2 the municipality's planning code. And your objection is 3 noted. It's on the record. We're having it k stenographically recorded. MR. CARIGNAN: And, also, the 1976 Zoning ordinance, since I'm currently under both violations of both orders supposedly or allegedly, I'm still being aggrieved by both Ordinance 26 and the Zoning Ordinance of 1976 since the Court has refused to acknowledge the adoption of the 1995 Zoning Ordinance. So I would offer argument that the 1976 Zoning ordinance is still being used. Secondly, I'd also offer argument that the 1976 Zoning Ordinance if a prior landowner who was in the municipality prior to the adoption of the 1995 Zoning Ordinance who had stored either wrecked or disabled vehicles would fall under a total prohibition of being able to store those and would then -- the municipality would go back to review what his rights were under the 1976 Zoning Ordinance; therefore, that would still be active. I request that the review of the constitutionality of those zoning ordinances would still be in effect upon any, should I say, defendant that would be brought before the municipality or the municipality would seek action against. So, therefore, it would be an 6 1 ongoing and still would be an active ordinance. 2 MR. SNELBAKER: Just so that the record is 3 quite clear, we're not going to retry the proceedings that 4 took place and are pending still at the Cumberland County 5 Courthouse. 6 MR. CARIGNAN: We understand that. 7 MR. SNELBAKER: So we're going to deal only 8 with your challenges to the lawfulnes s to those ordinances 9 that you've selected. You may still make those 10 arguments. Again, I say you are invited No . way will you 11 be prevented from making oral arguments. It's just on the 12 receipt of evidence that -- we're not i go ng to take any 13 more evidence on those. 14 MR. CARIGNAN: No more evidence on the 1976 15 Zoning Ordinance and the conflicts between th ose and the 16 other ordinances in question? 17 MR. SNELBAKER: That's correct. 18 MR. CARIGNAN: I would say that that severely 19 inhibits my case not being able to present that And I . 20 would request some time then that I might be able to 21 review some of the case law to be able to propose that and 22 put that forth. So in light of this restriction that you 23 placed upon me, I request a continuance. 24 MR. SNELBAKER: This is a matter for the Board 25 to discuss. And I think the Board ought to retire and !"1 L discuss this in the executive session since we have four 2 members. 3 Let the record show that the Board will recess l for the purpose of making a decision on this matter. > MR. CARIGNAN: I want to declare an objection to that. Why would the Board have to recess to make the decision? f c 1C 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MR. SNELBAKER: The Board's going to discuss the matter with me. I'm counsel to the Board. And we're going to have a session that's going to -- where they have an opportunity to discuss their legal position with me. MR. CARIGNAN: And that would be to inform them of the position to take; is that correct? MR. SNELBAKER: I don't know what it's going to I take. (A recess was taken from 5:38 p.m. to 5:45 p.m.) MR. SNELBAKER: Let the record show that the full Board is back. Mr. Carignan, we certainly understand that you may need some time in order to organize under this decision. The Board is agreeable to grant you a continuance from any further proceedings this evening. And we will return on the 27th of January at 5:30 p.m. Is that agreeable to you, sir? MR. CARIGNAN: It is. n D 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MR. SNELBAKER: Then we'll -- MR. CARIGNAN: That's 5:30? MR. SNELBAKER: 5:30. Let me state to the folks that are here, I believe that there are a number of folks here I recognize as perhaps being in the neighborhood of this subject property. This hearing began, as indicated earlier, on the 9th of November. And based upon the ruling that has just been made -- and I believe you're most all here to understand where we are going -- the opportunity will be given to you at the conclusion of Mr. Carignan's case to make any comments that you might have to the extent that you are interested in this particular case. We cannot do that tonight. We cannot do that until after Mr. Carignan closes his case. And we don't know quite when that will be. But based upon his request for a continuance, we will reconvene here on the 27th of January at 5:30 p.m. There will be no further notices given since this hearing will be recessed on the record to that date. Mr. Dunn, do you wish to have your Board take action to recess to 5:30 p.m., on January 27th? THE CHAIRMAN: And also that testimony then will also be limited and to stop at 6:45 so we can proceed with the regular meeting at that time. Is there a motion t c 1( 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 1 Ito that effect? 2 MR. PECHT: So moved. 3 MS. LEBLANC: Second. 1 THE CHAIRMAN: All those in favor say aye. THE MEMBERS: Aye. (Whereupon, the hearing was adjourned at 5:47 p.m.) 25 0 v 1 l: l: 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1 1 2 hereby certify that the proceedings and 2 evidence are contained fully and accurately in the notes 3 taken by me on the within proceedings, and that this copy 4 is a correct transcript of the same. 5 6 Jan Bucher 3 Cou t eporter-Notary Public 3 Notarial Seal Jan L. Soro, Cu berand County Carlisle Commission Eaplres Ju ne & & 2nnn y: I ORIGINAL SILVER SPRING TOWNSHIP BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REGULAR MEETING Stenographic record of meeting held at 6475 Carlisle Pike, Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania. IN RE: CA 98-1 January 27, 1999, at 5:30 p.m. BOARD OF SUPERVISORS: WAYNE PECHT CHAIRMAN MARIA LEWIS VICE CHAIRMAN WILLIAM DUNN SUPERVISOR -• JAN LeBLANC SUPERVISOR JACKIE EAKIN SUPERVISOR STAFF: WILLIAM COOK TWP. MANAGER KELLY KELCH ASST. MANAGER SUE ADAMS SECTRETARY TREASURER JAMES HALL ZONING OFFICER MARK BRUENING TWP. ENGINEER APPEARANCES: SNELBAKER, BRENNEMAN & SPARE RICHARD C. SNELBAKER, ESQUIRE For - Silver Spring Township Lorraine K. Troutman, RPR Notary Public ARCHIVE REPORTING SERVICE + 2336 N. Second Street (717) 234-5922 - Harrisburg, PA 17110 FAX (717) 234.6190 2 i 1 MR. PECHT: I call to order the public 2 hearing of curative amendment application CA 98-1 Greg 3 and Karen Carignan. And at this time I turn the hearing 4 over to the township Solicitor, Richard Snelbaker. 5 MR. SNELBAKER: This is the time and place 6 fixed for the continuation of the hearing as announced by 7 Chairman Pecht at the session held November 18, 1998. 8 We continued or recessed that hearing and 9 indicated we would continue it tonight beginning at this 10 hour, and will run until 6:45 p.m., at which time it will 11 will be necessary to reconfigure the room for the regular 12 public meeting. 13 We are, at this point, hearing the 14 presentation by the Applicant, and turn now to 15 Mr. Carignan, and ask you to proceed, sir. 16 MR. CARIGNAN: Mr. Snelbaker, at the last 17 hearing you had basically had taken the position that we 18 wouldn't be able to put forth any information and 19 evidence in accordance to the zoning ordinance of 1976. 20 We would like to put forth onto the record 21 our objections to that; and secondly, was there a 22 declaration of invalidity ever filed upon any of the 23 ordinances that we have put forth? 24 MR. SNELBAKER: By whom, air? 25 MR. CARIGNAN: By the Board. 3 1 MR. SNELBAKER: Declaration of invalidity? 2 MR. CARIGNAN: Yes, validating 3 constitutional questions on any of the ordinances that we 4 have challenged. 5 MR. SNELBAKER: No. 6 MR. CARIGNAN: So basically those ordinances 7 would still be in effect in a municipality or 8 non-conforming use, which Mr. Ball had eluded to prior, 9 okay, that you would revert back to the 1976 zoning 10 ordinance. Would that not be correct? 11 MR. SNELBAKER: Well, I am not going to 12 answer the questions that are for decision ultimately by 13 the Board. We held and ruled -- the Board determined 14 that ordinance Number 26 and the zoning ordinance of 1976 15 were beyond the purview of the curative amendment 16 process, which you have initiated, and that we would not 17 take evidence on either of those. 18 And I said several times that we would hear 19 argument -- whatever argument you wanted to make with 20 respect to those, but that we would not simply take 21 evidence. So you may make whatever arguments you have. 22 We will not answer questions that are going to be 23 involved with making of the decision. That's a decision 24 of the Board, not me. 25 MR. CARIGNAN: And when was that put before 4 1 the Board for this vote as you had referred to? Because 2 at the last meeting, the only thing that was put before 3 the Board was the vote for the continuation. 4 MR. SNELBAKER: I spoke on behalf of the 5 Board as the Township Solicitor, and said that those were 6 the determinations that I had made for the Board, and we 7 went on that basis. 8 MR. CARIGNAN: And those are also the issues 9 that are part of what was brought before Cumberland 10 County, that you were the prosecutor in that; is that 11 correct? 12 MR. SNELBAKER: Again, please do not 13 interrogate me. I am here to answer questions of what 14 may exist or not exist as a matter of record here, but I 15 am not getting involved, and I said we would not 16 re-litigate what occurred at the -- in the equity 17 proceeding at the courthouse. 18 MR. CARIGNAN: That is correct. And we are 19 not here to re-litigate that. We are here to challenge 20 the constitutionality of those ordinances. 21 MR. SNELBAKER: Sure. And please proceed to 22 do so. 23 MR. CARIGNAN: I understand that. My 24 question is, if I am allowed to argue the validity of 25 those, why I cannot present evidence towards that? Ij 5 10 1 MR. SNELBAKER: I think I ruled on that 2 before, and do you have a copy of the record? 3 MR. CARIGNAN: Do I have a copy of the 4 record? No, I do not. 5 MR. SNELBAKER: You did not buy a copy? 6 MR. CARIGNAN: They had sent one to me, but 7 I don't believe I have it with me. 8 MR. SNELBAKER: Well, it's all in there, 9 sir. 10 MR. CARIGNAN: Right. But what I am asking 11 of you, okay -- 12 MR. SNELBAKER: Uh-huh. 13 MR. CARIGNAN: -- is that if I am committed 14 to argue those points, why am I preempted from presenting 15 evidence? 16 MR. SNELBAKER: I have already ruled on 17 that. That's in the record, and that's what we did on 18 the 18th, following which you asked for an opportunity to 19 continue the case through -- come back and be prepared to 20 address whatever was left on your agenda. 21 I said that ordinance number 26 was not 22 under the Municipality's Planning Code, and that the 23 indeed 1976 zoning ordinance had now been replaced by the 24 1995 ordinance an far as it's effectiveness for the 25 curative amendmnnl: purposes. 6 1 MR. CARIGNAN: Okay. And the stand-alone 2 ordinance, which is ordinance 26, that you have 3 determined cannot be or preempted me from challenging it 4 through this venue, how was that adopted? That's under 5 the Municipal Planning Code -- 6 MR. SNELBAKER: I am not going to get into 7 that. This is a matter for you to present. I have 8 determined that the ordinance 26 is not under the 9 Municipality's Planning Code, and therefore is not 10 subject to curative amendment litigation. 11 MR. CARIGNAN: Okay. Then we will proceed 12 forth, and our objection is noted on the record to that? 13 MR. SNELBAKER: Everything you say is on the 14 record, yes, sir. 15 MR. CARIGNAN: Okay. That's great. We had 16 started with Mr. Hall. I would like to put him back on 17 the stand again, please. 18 MR. SNELBAKER: Do you wish to call Mr. Hall 19 as a witness? 20 MR. CARIGNAN: Yes. 21 MR. SNELBAKER: Okay. Mr. Hall, would you 22 be sworn, please, by the court reporter. 23 (Whereupon, Mr. Hall was duly sworn.) 24 MR. CARIGNAN: Mr. Hall's credentials are on 25 the record. We don't have to review those, do we, sir? 7 1 MR. SNELBAKER: Whatever is on the record is 2 on the record. We all recognize Mr. Hall as being the 3 current Zoning Officer of Silver Spring Township and an 4 employee. 5 MR. CARIGNAN: Sure. 6 Whereupon, 7 JAMES HALL, 8 having been previously duly sworn, testified as follows: 9 BY MR. CARRIGAN: 10 Q Mr. Hall, at our previous meeting -- well, 11 not the previous one but the one prior to that, you had 12 stated that the storage of wrecked and disabled vehicles 13 may be considered an accessory use within the C-3 Zone; 14 is that correct? 15 A In looking through the permitted uses and 16 also the conditional uses in the C-3 zone, I do not see 17 where wrecked vehicles are permitted. 18 Q The question was, is that they were a 19 permitted accessory use, was your testimony at the second 20 to last hearing. 21 A They could be accessory use? 22 Q Okay. And an accessory use to what uses? 23 A It could be to a non-conforming legally, 24 legal non-conforming use. It could be to uses within the 25 conditional use as part of that. 8 1 Q Could you describe those uses for us, 2 please, from the section on the C-3 zoning? 3 A Under the -- do you want the permitted uses? 4 Q Well, an accessory use would be one that is 5 permitted, is an accessory to a permitted use; is that 6 not correct? 7 A Under number 17 of the permitted uses, 8 accessory uses, customarily, incidental and permitted 9 uses. 10 Q That's correct. 11 A And there is a number of permitted uses 12 within that zone. 13 Q Okay. And what my question is to you is of 14 those uses, those 17 uses, which of those would be 15 permitted to store wrecked and disabled vehicles? 16 A Probably under Number 6, automobile, buses, 17 boat, farm, excavation, machinery, mobile homes and 18 trailer, sales. I am not sure. I would really have to 19 stop and think about this, and how that would relate 20 through. But there's a possibility we did look at 21 number -- that permitted use under number 6. 22 Q Okay. Any other ones? 23 A Under the conditional use process, there is 24 number 3, and this would -- wouldn't be something that 25 would go before the Board of Supervisors for approval 9 i 1 provided that they meet all of the requirements of 2 Section Number 406. 3 Number 3 under the conditional uses, and it 4 says automobile, bus, boat, motorcycles, mobile home, 5 snowmobiles, trailer, truck, farming, excavation, 6 machinery, mobile home services, sales and repairs 7 facility, and so on, and I -- you know that would be an 8 area that we would look for that kind of use. 9 Q That was in 212.3, subsection 3? 10 A We would look at that if that use could fit 11 into that category. 12 Q But you are not saying that it would be a 13 permitted use, it's a possibility. 14 A I am saying that we would look at that 15 general area. But there again, you have to meet the 16 requirements of Section 406 of the ordinance, and it has 17 to be approved by, go through the conditional use 18 hearing, and be approved by the Board of Supervisors. 19 Q All right. The other ones -- did you also 20 mention number 2? 21 A Number 2? 22 Q Under the same 212.3? 23 A No, I don't think I did. 24 Q Would that also be considered -- 25 A It says automobile filling stations, 10 1'-1 1 incidental repair. I don't think so. 2 Q You don't believe so. Okay. And any other 3 ones in either the conditional use or permitted uses? 4 A No, I don't see any place else that that 5 would relate to that kind of accessory use. 6 Q Okay. Let me see. And will you re-clarify 7 automobile filling stations, this is that one that we 8 just went over including minor and incidental repair. 9 Now, may a vehicle be disabled, say, due to that it may 10 not be running. Is that an incidental repair? 11 MR. SNELBAKER: Excuse me. Where are we 12 going with this? The ordinance is going to speak for 13 itself, and unless we have something that's before us 14 that's factually before us, I am not sure that Mr. Hall 15 or anyone else is capable of passing upon a conditional 16 use. 17 MR. CARIGNAN: That's correct. What we are 18 trying to ascertain is where those uses would be 19 permitted within the Township ordinance. If they are 20 forbidden and not suggested otherwise. 21 MR. SNELBAKER: But he's already said that 22 filling stations are not. That's what I am saying. 23 Where are we going with this? He's already answered your 24 question. 25 MR. CARIGNAN: And I just want to make sure J 11 F? 1 that he saw the smaller sections thereafter that included 2 minor and incidental repairs. 3 MR. SNELBAKER: I think he answered your 4 question b ut go ahead. It's your time we are working on, 5 here. 6 THE WITNESS: And you asked me whether junk 7 vehicles w ere permitted there? 8 BY MR. CARRIGAN: 9 Q Wrecked and disabled vehicles. 10 A Incidental, including minor, incidental 11 repairs. 12 Q Yes. 13 A I don't see that that would be part of it. 14 Do you? 15 Q So a vehicle, say, without an inspection 16 sticker or that may not be running would be a disabled 17 vehicle? 18 A No, you said junk. 19 Q No, I didn't say junk. I said wrecked or 20 disabled. 21 A Disabled would be something different. 22 Q A disabled vehicle -- what is the definition 23 of disabled vehicle for the Township ordinance or what 24 definition are you using, I guess? 25 MR. COOK: Mr. Snelbaker, I object. 12 .J 1 MR. SNELBAKER: Let me -- go ahead, 2 Mr. Cook. Finish your statement. 3 MR. COOK: I don't see any reference in the 4 ordinance to disabled vehicles. I believe this is a term 5 created by Mr. Carignan in reference to our ordinance. 6 It is up to him, I believe, to define it. And frankly, I 7 am not clear as to the point of it. 8 MR. SNELBAKER: I was going to mention that 9 unless we have facts -- unless we have a fact situation 10 that in some way is germane to the issue of a curative 11 amendment here, and keep in mind that you have deliniated 12 the basis or the grounds upon which you claim that this 13 is unconstitutional. 14 MR. CARIGNAN: Uh-huh. 15 MR. SNELBAKER: I am not sure in anyway 16 Mr. Hall's interpretation of sections of the ordinance 17 are going to in anyway support your position. 18 I think it's up to you to show in some way 19 in which this is wrong. What's wrong? You are asking 20 him to interpret the ordinance. But we don't have a fact 21 situation to go with it. 22 MR. CARIGNAN: Well, then we will go to the 23 facts. 24 BY MR. CARIGGAN: 25 Q Mr. Hall, on Page 19 of the definitions. 13 J 1 And if you would go under the definition of junk, if 2 you'd please read that into the record, please. 3 A Junk, it says used and discarded 4 materials -- 5 Q Excuse me. You missed a word in there. 6 A Used and/or discarded materials, including 7 but not limited to, waste paper, rags, metal building 8 materials, house furnishings, machinery, vehicles and 9 other parts. 10 Q Okay. That's under the definition of junk. 11 And could you read the one just below that under 12 junkyards, please? 13 A An area of land with or without buildings 14 used for the storage outside a completely enclosed 15 building of used or discarded materials, including but 16 not limited to waste paper, rags, metal, building 17 materials, house furnishings, machinery, vehicles, other 18 parts thereof with or without the dismantling processing, 19 salvage, sale or other uses or disposition of the same. 20 The deposit or storage on a lot of one or 21 more unlicensed wrecked or disabled vehicles or the major 22 part thereof shall be deemed to constitute a junkyard. A 23 disabled vehicle is a motor vehicle intended to be -- 24 Q Wait. Could you re-read that sentence, 25 please? 14 •J 1 A A disabled vehicle is a vechile intended to 2 be self-propelled, that shall not be operatable under its 3 own power for any reason, or a vehicle that does not have 4 a valid current registration plate or that has a 5 certificate of inspection, which is more than 60 days 6 beyond the expiration date. 7 Q Okay. Now, in that portion of the junkyard 8 that relates to -- it has disabled vehicles in it, does 9 it not. Refers to? 10 A That's what it says here. 11 MR. SNELBAKER: Let's just stop a minute, 12 folks. The question is before this Board, and they are 13 being asked to ultimately make a decision on whether this 14 ordinance is unlawful. 15 The reading of the ordinance is something 16 which we will do, the Board will do, you will do in your 17 arguments. We don't need to have Mr. Ball tell us what's 18 in the ordinance. 19 Furthermore, his interpretation of the 20 ordinance is not before us. So we are not going to sit 21 here, and have him speculate on matters that are not in 22 evidence, and that deal with the written word in the 23 ordinance itself. There's a difference between taking 24 testimony and producing evidence and making legal 25 arguments. is '" l 1 I don't know what facts you need in order to 2 go forward, but what we are developing now are not facts. 3 We are reading the ordinance. And I am going to rule 4 that Mr. Hall's interpretation of hypothetical situations 5 is not appropriate for this record or to be considered. 6 Those will be individual matters as they come up at some 7 future time, if these fact situations ever develop. 8 Right now you have an entire ordinance, the 9 195 ordinance is there. The question is, Why is it 10 unlawful? And Mr. Hall is not going to be in a position 11 to tell us whether it is or isn't because he is not 12 qualified to do that. That's for this Board to do. 13 Now, it might expedite things if you were to 14 clarify by some sort of, at least preliminary argument, 15 as to what you believe is unlawful about the ordinance. 16 I am not going to tell you you have to, but I am simply 17 saying that we are not going to sit here and have 18 Mr. Hall read the ordinance when that's part of the 19 record. 20 I will so stipulate for the record that the 21 1995 ordinance in its entirety is part of the record of 22 this case. So all of the arguments that can be made, you 23 can make without having Mr. Hall or anyone else testify 24 to them. I think that you should be concentrating on 25 those arguments that you believe make this ordinance J 16 1 improper. 2 MR. CARIGNAN: In my trying to bring forth 3 Mr. Hall, who worked with this for the past six or seven 4 years, is more familiar with this zoning ordinance than 5 any member of the general public. 6 If Mr. Hall doesn't know what constitutes a 7 disabled vehicle in plain, simple English, then how are 8 the regular members of the general, public supposed to 9 distinguish what constitutes a disabled vehicle by the 10 definition that a junkyard gives. And since the 11 junkyards are only permitted in the industrial zone, and 12 a disabled vehicle which is, to cite one example, Miller 13 and Sam's who stores wrecked and disabled vehicles. By 14 this definition, he is a junkyard because he has one or 15 more wrecked or disabled vehicles upon this property. 16 MR. SNELBAXER: Now, this is argument. 17 MR. CARIGNAN: This is argument. 18 MR. SNELBARER: And this is the way you 19 should proceed. 20 MR. CARIGNAN: We wish to put forth first 21 Mr. Hall's interpretation of some of the minute particles 22 and definitions that are contained within the zoning 23 ordinance. 24 He is the man who enforces these things and 25 interprets them either for acception or denial of these 17 1 things that are put before the Board, before the Zoning 2 Hearing Board, and before the Planning Commission. 3 MR. SNELBAKER: Okay. I have heard your 4 explanation, and my prior position stands still, that you 5 may make those arguments. You just started on it. You 6 may continue to do those arguments. 7 We don't need Mr. Hall's interpretation. 8 That's what this ordinance is about, and this is what the 9 proceeding is. You are claiming that this ordinance is 10 in some way unlawful. 11 MR. CARIGNAN: That's correct. 12 MR. SNELBAKER: And you are here to 13 interpret that in such a way that it becomes unlawful. 14 MR. CARIGNAN: No, my interpretation is not 15 what is at issue here, it's whether one can interpret 16 from the ordinance, and reasonably interpret from it, 17 what conduct is prohibited by it. 18 MR. SNELBAKER: That's argument. 19 MR. CARIGNAN: That's argument. That's why 20 we are trying to solicit testimony from Mr. Hall, who is 21 more familiar with this than any of the members of the 22 general public. If he has difficulty in doing that then 23 other people -- that goes directly to what I put forth in 24 my application in this curative amendment. 25 MR. SNELBAKER: I am going to rule 18 10 1 subject -- we will take your objection and will note it 2 on the record, that we are not going to hear Mr. Hall's 3 interpretation of the zoning ordinance. It's not 4 evidence. 5 MR. CARIGNAN: And what do you mean by 6 interpretation? What he reads out of each of those 7 zoning ordinances? 8 MR. SNELBAKER: Well, we are not going to 9 sit here and read it, that's number one. You can read 10 it. We all can read it. And you can make your argument. 11 MR. CARIGNAN: That's tine. 12 MR. SNELBAKER: We are not going to have you 13 read it, and have them tell us what it means. 14 MR. CARIGNAN: Okay. 15 MR. SNELBAKER: What we are primarily here 16 to do is to determine whether what it says is unlawful by 17 the standards applicable to curative amendment 18 proceedings. Again, this is a legal position, legal 19 argument that you should be making. 20 Now, I keep trying to bring you back to that 21 point, and we are not going to do it through Mr. Hall's 22 interpretation of what Mr. Hall thinks it might be. 23 MR. CARIGNAN: Mr. Hall's interpretation is 24 the key point to that. 25 MR. SNELBAKER: Well, I am going to 19 1 respectfully disagree, and we are going to rule that we 2 are not going to hear Mr. Hall's interpretation of any 3 portion of the zoning ordinance. And I will turn to the 4 Board, and ask if the Board has any objection to that 5 particular ruling. Mr. Chairman? 6 CHAIRMAN PECHT: No, I am in agreement with 7 that ruling. 8 MR. CARIGNAN: Is there a vote? That's two 9 members of the Board. 10 MR. SNELBAKER: No, we are not taking a 11 vote. I speak for the Board, and the Board has spoken 12 through its Chairman. 13 MR. CARIGNAN: Mr. Hall, on -- let's see -- 14 towing facilities, where would that be permitted within 15 the township? 16 MR. SNELBAKER: Let me ask a question, Why 17 is that relevant, Mr. Carignan, Would you explain what 18 towing facilities are? I am not aware of any towing 19 facilities at issue here. Are there any? 20 MR. CARIGNAN: Towing facilities or wrecked 21 or disabled vehicles. 22 MR. SNELBAKER: No, towing facilities. Are 23 there any towing facilities involved in this case? 24 MR. CARIGNAN: Yes, they store wrecked and 25 disabled vehicles. 20 ..J 1 MR. SNELBAKER: I am talking about towing 2 facilities. You are asking Mr. Hall to indicate where 3 towing facilities belong. I am saying, Why are we 4 interested in towing facili ties? 5 MR. CARIGNAN: Because towing facilities 6 store wrecked and disabled vehicles. 7 MR. SNELBAKER: Fine. That's your position. 8 Is that your position? 9 MR. CARIGNAN: Yes, that's a position. 10 MR. SNELBAKER: That's legal argument. 11 I assume you can back that up with something in the book. 12 MR. CARIGNAN: I cannot. That's why I am 13 asking Mr. Hall. 14 MR. SNELBAKER: Well, then you can make the 15 arguments in the absence of doing that. 16 Frankly, I am not sure why towing facilities 17 become relevant in this pro ceeding because I am not aware 18 that any towing facilities have been alleged or averred 19 in your curative amendment process as having been denied. 20 MR. CARIGNAN: The curative amendment we 21 filed because of what has b een put forth in the zoning 22 ordinance, the definition o f junkyards and junk and so 23 on, okay, would prohibit th ose from being within the 24 municipality. 25 MR. SNELBAKER: So -- 21 _J• 1 MR. CARIGNAN: That's why I am asking where 2 are there towing facilities within the permitted use 3 within the zoning ordinance. 4 MR. SNELBAKER: I don't know but I am not 5 sure it matters. 6 MR. CARIGNAN: I am asking Mr. Hall for 7 that. 8 MR. SNELBAKER: Mr. Carignan, I am not 9 permitting that. The question is, if someone comes in 10 here and wishes to operate a towing business -- let's 11 call it a towing facility -- 12 MR. CARIGNAN: Okay. 13 MR. SNELBAKER: -- business. And for some 14 reason that's not allowed under that ordinance, that 15 person would have a right to file a curative amendment or 16 otherwise attack the ordinance. That is not before the 17 Board tonight. There is no one that has asked, that I am 18 aware of, to have a towing facility. 19 MR. CARIGNAN: What we are addressing is the 20 storage of wrecked and disabled vehicles. 21 MR. SNELBAKER: Fine. 22 MR. CARIGNAN: Okay? And whether you store 23 wrecked or disabled vehicles, it can be associated with 24 either a towing or other business that are included in 25 the definition of the zoning ordinance. 22 C) 1 MR. SNELBAKER: Isn't that your argument? 2 MR. CARIGNAN: That's a portion of the 3 argument. But Mr. Hall's testimony also goes to support 4 the different areas within the zoning ordinance that 5 conflict. 6 MR. SNELBAKER: Well, we are not going to 7 dissect the ordinance into its various parts that are not 8 relevant here. 9 Let me go to the absurd to maybe make this 10 important or to point it out, emphasize it, that if we 11 were to have a request -- to have some sort of a request 12 for an atomic energy reactor -- and I don't know whether 13 there is anything in the ordinance or not. But let's 14 assume that in reading the ordinance tonight we find that 15 there is no place in there that an atomic energy reactor 16 is allowed. That does not make this ordinance unlawful 17 because we don't have an application to put in such a 18 facility. 19 Now, that's as clear as I can get it. That 20 unless we have something precisely at issue that you have 21 raised by curative amendment, we are not going to take 22 all of the what-ifs and possibilities, and I have given 23 you one which might be factually absurd, but certainly 24 would be a possible type of use that might not be 25 provided for in this agreement -- or in this ordinance. 23 1 But the fact that it isn't there tonight, 2 does not make it unlawful. Now, if somebody comes in 3 tomorrow and wants to put in one of these things, then we 4 will address that whenever that comes up. 5 I hope that has been made clear. I hope 6 that the record shows that I am trying to clarify that. 7 We are going to confine ourselves to whatever it is that 8 you are complaining about under the curative amendment, 9 and precisely only that. 10 And frankly, I am not sure what that is, 11 Mr. Carignan. That's why I invited you earlier to give 12 you consideration to what it is that's wrong with this 13 ordinance, and you might wish to make some statement to 14 that effect so that we know a direction in which this 15 evidence is to take place. 16 I am trying to give you every latitude, but 17 within the legal limits of the curative amendment 18 process. 19 MR. CARIGNAN: And I appreciate that. 20 MR. SNELBAKER: Okay. 21 MR. CARIGNAN: The question that is before 22 you, since you don't really have anything right at this 23 point in the new zoning ordinance that's been 24 before you, but you consented that you are going to hear 25 a curative amendment under the 1995 zoning ordinance. ..J 24 .1-) 1 What you are basically telling me is that I need to file 2 an occupancy permit before you are going to consider that 3 question. 4 MR. SNELBAKER: No, I am going to say to 5 you, What is wrong with this ordinance that is in anyway 6 impacting on you? 7 It can't be what's impacting on our neighbor 8 over here that wants to put in an atomic energy reactor. 9 We don't care about him tonight. We care about you and 10 what is it that you want to do that you can't do or 11 something that you don't want to do, that you must do 12 under this ordinance that is unlawful. 13 MR. CARIGNAN: And that is why we are trying 14 to approach between the storage facilities, towing 15 facilities and the outside storage, which is all 16 contained within this zone, is what we requested. Those 17 are the issues that we put before you. 18 MR. SNELBAKER: Then make your argument, 19 Mr. Carignan. Make your argument. 20 MR. CARIGNAN: We would like to present our 21 evidence. 22 MR. SNELBAKER: I haven't seen any evidence. 23 There are no facts involved. Mr. Hall has no facts. You 24 are asking him to take words out of an ordinance. We all 25 know what they are. 25 s'•y 1 Let me make it quite clear. If there is 2 an illegality about this ordinance, this Board wants to 3 cure it. I don't think there is any question about that. 4 That's their responsibility, and we are not here to 5 enforce ordinances, but it's got to be demonstrated. You 6 have to establish that it is unlawful. That is your 7 burden here. s I am saying that that is done primarily by 9 argument. I have no idea what facts could be generated. 10 Certainly none by Mr. Hall. 11 MR. CARIGNAN: If Mr. Hall's primary 12 responsibility is interpretation of the zoning ordinance, 13 he is the enforcement officer, he interprets these zoning 14 ordinances to determine whether or not a violation has 15 occurred through its wording, and the precision of that 16 wording is what we are looking towards. 17 Because of some of the different conflicts is within the zoning ordinance, we have to know what 19 Mr. Hall relies on to overrule one section over the 20 other. That is the nature why we seek his testimony, 21 which portions of the ordinance one overrules the 22 definition of a junkyard and disabled, junk vehicles, as 23 defined here. 24 Then do people who come in for a servicing 25 facility for repair and service of vehicles, that they .J 26 3 1 1 obviously many of them service disabled vehicles. Some 2 are towed in, body shops, towing facilities, those under 3 the definition, would only be allowed in the industrial 4 district by the zoning ordinance, if you go under the 5 definition of what a junkyard is. 6 It doesn't differentiate in the ordinance 7 where I have seen. On the numbers it says one, if you 8 have one disabled vehicle. I need to know from Mr. Hall 9 and solicit his testimony to those facts. What he does 10 that interprets, you are going to store -- you don't go 11 in the industrial district, no you are either in the C-2, 12 C-3 or other commercial zones -- what factors he utilizes 13 in determining that. 14 Since it is his determination that tells 15 people where they get their permits for occupancy, he 16 tells them which zone. And he is the first one to see in 17 determining that. I need to solicit his information to 18 be able to get that and his opinions in that. 19 MR. SNELBAKER: One more time. When he gets 20 those questions placed before him with applications or 21 with some mandate to enforce the ordinance, then he will 22 make those determinations, and those determinations will 23 be subject to review by all of the appellate procedures 24 of which you are aware, would come up at that time. 25 We are not going to sit here and do that in 27 V; 1 speculation tonight because those don't exist. They 2 simply don't exist. Now, you may argue those points. 3 You may argue those. I welcome to see a brief on them, 4 and see what logic you use in reaching whatever that 5 conclusion is, and then we will take that, and we will 6 interpret that. We will have to decide then whether that 7 validly challenges the orderinance. But we are not going 8 to do it through speculative interpretation by Mr. Hall 9 or any other member of this staff. It's not fact. 10 MR. CARIGNAN: I wouldn't consider 11 Mr. Hall's testimony as speculative. Mr. Hall's been 12 familiar with the different facilities within the 13 township. If I present them as facilities that already 14 operate within the township, is that a fact that we can 15 put towards the record? 16 MR. SNELBAKER: What has, in the past, how 17 things have been administrated in the past, and how 18 Mr. Hall will interpret that is not evidence of the 19 illegality of the ordinance of 1995. It must be from the 20 ordinance itself. 21 MR. CARIGNAN: And Mr. Hall is the person 22 who enforces that ordinance and interprets that? 23 MR. SNELBAKER: He is not enforcing it 24 tonight. There is no enforcement. There is no 25 enforcement issue before this Board tonight. 28 1 0 1 You've raised the issue that the ordinance 2 itself is illegal, and he can't enforce it. It is your 3 responsibility now to convince this Board that that is 4 true, that it is so illegal that Mr. Hall can't go out 5 and enforce it. 6 MR. CARIGNAN: Then due to the fact that you 7 wish factual evidence, and due to the scope of how broad 8 it is within these areas, since the action that was 9 initiated against me didn't define what ordinances I was 10 being brought under, okay, that's what the curative 11 amendment was filed on, primarily, which was the 12 ordinance 26 and the 1976 zoning ordinance, those issues 13 I more have the information prepared for. 14 But I don't have as much on the 1995 zoning 15 ordinance, okay, at this time because of the -- I am not 16 sure what I have been cited under. The only thing -- 17 MR. SNELBAKER: I didn't catch what you just 18 said. 19 MR. CARIGNAN: What I have been cited under, 20 since the enforcement -- well, I didn't get an 21 enforcement notice. I have no idea what I have been 22 brought forth for. That is what we have requested to be 23 defined and yet to hear any definitions on it. No 24 enforcement notice was sent to me to define what items 25 were still questionable, what was in violation of the .1'-) 29 ID ,.J 1 1995 ordinance. Since we are supposedly to have left the 2 1997 ordinance behind us. 3 MR. SNELBAKER: I don't know whether there 4 is any enforcement proceedings pending or not. And 5 frankly, that is not before us, and in any event, the 6 question is you say that this ordinance is unlawful. 7 MR. CARIGNAN: That's correct. 8 MR. SNELBAKER: In some way that it applies 9 to you. 10 MR. CARIGNAN: And that's correct. 11 MR. SNELBAKER: And it is up to you to show 12 that that is unlawful. And you can do that by reference 13 to your uses under the ordinance. 14 MR. CARIGNAN: So what you would rather have 15 me do is brief speculations of what Mr. Ball's 16 interpretation may be of wording that's within here, and 17 that's what I am trying to find out through his testimony 18 so we can eliminate the speculation, and he can state 19 what he would interpret it to be, as opposed to me 20 speculating, Well, he interprets a disabled vehicle to be 21 one that a carborator is off, all four tires are flat, or 22 that the rear end is out of it. What defines a disabled 23 vehicle? 24 MR. SNELBAKER: That's all defined in the 25 ordinance. I think I just heard someone reading what a 30 0 1 disabled vehicle is. That's in the ordinance. We are 2 past that. What Mr. Hall thinks it is is totally 3 irrelevant. Maybe no one would agree with him. I don't 4 know. I really don't think that's proper to get into. 5 MR. CARIGNAN: It's a determination of what 6 is at issue. 7 MR. SNELBAKER: I am trying to direct you in 8 a direction that's going to bring about a conclusion of 9 this thing, and that is you have to show how this is 10 unlawful with respect to whatever it is you wish to do. 11 And you may do that, and I think to a large 12 extent, it's going to be your argument, your position 13 construing this ordinance. 14 MR. CARIGNAN: And you will accept the 15 arguments under the 1976 zoning ordinance; is that 16 correct? 17 MR. SNELBAKER: I will accept any arguments 18 that you wish to make. First of all, that ordinance 26 19 and the 176 ordinance are not applicable, you have to 20 address those and convince us that they are. 21 And while you're doing that, you can then 22 proceed to tell us why they would be, assuming that they 23 are then, subject to the curative amendment process, 24 what's wrong with them. 25 You have to do the same thing with the 195 31 1 ordinance, in which that is applicable now because it's 2 in effect. So you have to convince the Board in what way 3 is it unlawful as applied t o you. 4 MR. CARIGNAN: Okay. So then through 5 ordinance 26 and the 1976 a nd the 1995, they may be 6 argued and briefed is what -- 7 MR. SNELBAKER: Certainly. 8 MR. CARIGNAN: And in the showing of that is 9 a requirement to show that I am still being aggravated by 10 ordinance 26. 11 MR. SNELBAKER: You can do whatever you wish 12 to do in an argument. 13 MR. CARIGNAN: Okay. 14 MR. SNELBAKER: You may state whatever it is 15 that you want the Board to consider in that regard. The 16 first thing you have to do is convince the Board that the 17 curative amendment process applies to those two older 18 ordinances. 19 Once that that 's over, then how is it 20 applied in -- or how is it unlawful with regard to your 21 situation? I respectfully suggest that all of that is 22 really moot at this point. That your position should be 23 concentrating on the 195 or dinance, and telling us in 24 what way that is unlawful. But you have the right to 25 make all of those arguments . 32 `'D 1 MR. CARIGNAN: Okay. Due to the expanse of 2 what that argument is, and how broad that that one is, I 3 would prefer to submit that into a brief, and then that 4 way -- 5 MR. SNELBAKER: Fine. 6 MR. CARIGNAN: -- you can conclude as far as 7' the public portion of that hearing goes, and then we can 8 submit that to the briefs, and do it that way. 9 Because for me if I am going to be precluded 10 from putting forth any information on the definition of 11 those zoning ordinances and ambiguity of the language of 12 that is in there, and how that may be interpreted, then 13 it is going to be much better for me to brief it to pull 14 those many, many issues and different areas of the zoning 15 ordinance together. 16 MR. SNELBAKER: I think you are absolutely 17 on target, if that's the direction you move. 18 MR. CARIGNAN: I would much prefer to elicit 19 the testimony from Mr. Hall and the other witnesses, but 20 at this point in time you have precluded me from being 21 able to do that. 22 MR. SNELBAKER: Yes, I have, but I am 23 inviting you to go the route of the argument, you can 24 either make that oral or you can make that in brief form. 25 MR. CARIGNAN: I would rather do it in brief 33 1 form because there is far too much in ordinance 26, and 2 prohibition thereof, and all of the orders that have been 3 taken in. 4 The only thing I request is that, I still 5 have one call into one witness. I figured it would take 6 too much testimony this evening to get him in who is an 7 expert on the Municipal Planning Code, and that 8 gentleman, I wanted to put forth his testimony as to the 9 interpretation of whether ordinance 26 would fault under 10 the curative amendment of Municipal Planning Code, and 11 his interpretation of that, since ordinance 26 was 12 adopted, as you know, in 1969, which the M.P.C. was 13 adopted in 1968, so probably the lapse in it getting out 14 to the municipal solicitors and so on it was adopted 15 under the older provisions of the municipal codes. 16 MR. SNELBAKER: And do I understand what you 17 are asking for is to continue the hearing until you can 18 get that person here? 19 MR. CARIGNAN: That's correct. And it would 20 be conditional. If he decides that he feels it is not, 21 then I would waive that continuance, and we will brief 22 everything -- 23 MR. SNELBAKER: All right. What we need to 24 do then is this: There are two sides to this case. We 25 are in your side. The staff has not had an opportunity } 34 1 to react to that in anyway. And they won't react until 2 you are completed. 3 So we are going to, and I will want to step 4 out and talk with the Board about this as to a 5 continuation of what they want to do, as we did the last 6 time. But assuming that the Board goes along with a 7 continuation, we will then have a further hearing at S which time you will then have the opportunity to present 9 any factual evidence which is relevant, and do I 10 understand you are requesting that opportunity as we 11 speak? 12 MR. CARIGNAN: To present that witness who 13 is expert on municipal planning code. 14 MR. SNELBAKER: Assuming there is evidence 15 generated, then the staff will need to present whatever 16 it's going to present. So that will come after you are 17 finished. 18 MR. CARIGNAN: I am sort of at a loss. I am 19 not sure what you meant by that, if you would -- 20 MR. SNELBAKER: Well, let me make it 21 perfectly clear for everybody that is here. 22 MR. CARIGNAN: okay. 23 MR. SNELBAKER: There are two sides to this 24 case. 25 MR. CARIGNAN: That's correct. 35 '. 1 0 1 MR. SNELBAKER: You are the person who is 2 raising the question of illegality, and the other side is 3 township staff, which was defending its position that the 4 statute is lawful. 5 MR. CARIGNAN: Okay. 6 MR. SNELBAKER: At this point we haven't 7 heard all of your case, have we? 8 MR. CARIGNAN: No. 9 MR. SNELBAKER: Until we hear all of your 10 case, the township cannot go forward, won't permit that 11 to happen because it's your case, and we want you to have 12 every opportunity to present whatever it is that you wish 13 to present. 14 So we will continue, assuming the Board goes 15 along with it, we will continue the case tonight. We 16 will come back. You will be afforded the opportunity to, 17 again, present evidence. At the conclusion of your 18 evidence, then we will hear the evidence of others who 19 have an interest in the matter, including the township. 20 MR. CARIGNAN: All right. 21 MR. SNELBAKER: You understand that? 22 MR. CARIGNAN: Okay. 'Cause the parties to 23 this action are the township and myself. 24 MR. SNELBAKER: That's correct. 25 MR. CARIGNAN: Okay. 36 •J 1 MR. SNELBAKER: You understand? I am going 2 to ask Mr. Chairman if we can to have a brief executive 3 session? 4 CHAIRMAN PECHT: I would like to ask 5 Mr. Carignan two questions before that. How long do you 6 anticipate that this one witness would take to testify? 7 MR. CARIGNAN: I am thinking 15 to 20 8 minutes at the most. What I would probably request is 9 that it's probably more convenient for us to meet at the 10 regular meeting -- the moments before, as opposed to the 11 5:30 meeting. 12 I don't believe that would be convenient for 13 him. That meeting at the workshop is going to be a 14 little close for me to arrange, you know, a proper time 15 frame. So I would request probably a 30-day continuance 16 so that he can adjust his scheduling to be here at that 17 point in time. 18 CHAIRMAN PECHT: You have 15 to 20 minutes, 19 and are there any other witnesses? 20 MR. CARIGNAN: That is the only witness. He 21 will testify to the ordinance and Municipal Planning 22 Code, and it should fall under the curative amendment 23 process, which Mr. Snelbaker ruled he did not feel was 24 proper or appropriate. 25 CHAIRMAN PECHT: And my other question to 37 1 you is, what do you believe -- and maybe this is 2 controlled by statute, but I think one thing I would also 3 like to do is set a briefing schedule, if we are going to 4 be submitting briefs back and forth. Is that controlled 5 by the statute? 6 MR. SNELBAKER: It isn't really controlled 7 by the statute, but we are going to have a time limit 8 because we are going to have certain requirements to come 9 to a decision, and so the briefing schedule is going to 10 take that into consideration. I am not -- I will look 11 that up. I will look that up presently for you. 12 MR. CARIGNAN: Close of the hearings it's -- 13 your decision has to be rendered within 45 or 60 days. 14 MR. SNELBAKER: It's one of those times. I 15 think you are correct. And we are going to have to 16 establish a fair schedule because assuming that you are 17 presenting a brief as the Applicant and Appellant in this 18 matter -- 19 MR. CARIGNAN: Uh-huh. 20 MR. SNELBAKER: -- there has to be an 21 opportunity for the township or staff to respond. 22 MR. CARIGNAN: Okay. And we can also extend 23 that time period upon agreement. 24 MR. SNELBAKER: Exactly. And I would 25 expect that to happen. 38 0 J 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MR. CARIGNAN: That's correct. MR. SNELBAKER: Because we have tried to be tolerant. MR. CARIGNAN: I appreciate your indulgence. MR. SNELBAKER: I have been tolerant of these proceedings. If I understand in response to Mr. Pecht's question, it's only going to take you less than a half our to present the other witness, and then you are finished with witnesses? MR. CARIGNAN: That's correct. MR. SNELBAKER: We are going to rely on that in establishing when we would have the next hearing then. Thank you. CHAIRMAN PECHT: At this time the Board will retire to executive session. (Whereupon, a meeting was held off the record at 6:24 p.m.) (Whereupon, the Board entered the meeting at 6:34 p.m.) CHAIRMAN PECHT: The public hearing is called to order. Mr. Carignan, this hearing will be continued until February 24, 1999, at 7:00 p.m., which is the February regular meeting for the Board of Supervisors. We will allot you 30 minutes at that meeting 39 ( i 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 S 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 from 7 to 7:30 to present your witness. I would ask you that if your witness is not going to appear, that you would inform the Board by the 17th to adjust our record accordingly. MR. CARIGNAN: That's fine. MR. SNELBAKER: The 17th. MR. CARIGNAN: That's fine. CHAIRMAN PECHT: There will be another hearing after that for the township to present its side and other interested parties to present its testimony, and then you and Mr. Snelbaker can work together, hopefully, to set a briefing schedule after the testimony is closed. MR. CARIGNAN: I'd be happy to. Thank you. CHAIRMAN PECHT: The record for this hearing is now closed. (Whereupon, the meeting concluded at 6:35 p.m.) I hereby certify that the proceedings and evidence are contained fully and accurately in the notes taken by me on the within proceedings and that this is a correct transcript of the same. 'Lorraine K. Trou Notary Public 0 ORIGINAL SILVER SPRING TOWNSHIP BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REGULAR MEETING Stenographic record of hearing held at 6475 Carlisle Pike, Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania. IN RE: CA 98-1 February 24, 1999, at 7:08 p.m. BOARD OF SUPERVISORS: WAYNE PECHT CRAIRMAN MARIA LEWIS VICE CHAIRMAN WILLIAM DUNN SUPERVISOR JACKIE EAKIN SUPERVISOR JAN LeBLANC SUPERVISOR STA WILLIAM COOK KELLY KELCH JAMES HALL SUE ADAMS MARK BRUENING FF: TWP. MANAGER ASST. MANAGER ZONING OFFICER SECRETARY TREASURER TWP. ENGINEER S: ?T SNELBAKER, BRENNEMAN & SPARE RICHARD SNELBAKER, ESQUIRE Lorraine K. Troutman, RPR Notary Public ?°? .1+-_ ARCHNE REPORTING SERVICE 2 gnu - 2336 N. Second Street (717) 234-5922 = Harrisburg, PA 17110 FAX (717) 234.6190 2 ....) 1 CHAIRMAN PECHT: I call to order the 2 February 1999 Regular Meeting of the Silver Spring 3 Township Board of Supervisors, and ask that you rise and 4 join me in the pledge of allegiance to the flag. 5 (Whereupon, all present complied.) 6 CHAIRMAN PECHT: Will the Secretary please 7 call the roll. 8 MS. ADAMS: Chairman Pecht. 9 CHAIRMAN PECHT: Present. 10 MS. ADAMS: Vice Chairman Lewis. 11 VICE CHAIRMAN LEWIS: Present. 12 MS. ADAMS: Supervisor LeBlanc. 13 MS. LEBLANC: Present. 14 MS. ADAMS: Supervisor Dunn. 15 MR. DUNN: Present. 16 MS. ADAMS: Supervisor Eakin. 17 MS. EAKIN: Present. 18 CHAIRMAN PECHT: Now is the time for the 19 scheduled public hearing in Carignan, Curative Amendment 20 Action 98-1. 21 The Board has alloted 20 minutes for this 22 hearing tonight on the representation of Mr. Carignan at 23 the last hearing, and I would now turn the hearing over 24 to the Township Solicitor. 25 MR. SNELBAKER: Mr. Carignan, are you ready 3 110 1 to proceed? 2 MR. CARIGNAN: Yes, Mr. Snelbaker. Was 3 there action taken on our request today for the 4 subpoenas? 5 MR. SNELBAKER: My understanding is that at 6 approximately 1:30 this afternoon you delivered some 7 subpeonas or forms of subpeonas to the Township Office. 8 MR. CARIGNAN: That's correct. 9 MR. SNELBAKER: And you asked that they be 10 signed by the Chairman, Mr. Pecht, who of course, was not 11 here, and did not arrive here until just before this 12 meeting. So the answer is, no. But let's deal with 13 them. Keep in mind that when we are dealing with them, 14 we are on your clock. 15 I am looking at a subpeona to the Chief of 16 Police, to the zoning officer, I guess there are two 17 copies of each of those; is that it? 18 MR. CARIGNAN: That's correct. 19 MR. SNELBAKER: This deals with matters 20 involving the application of ordinance Number 26; is that 21 correct? 22 MR. CARIGNAN: That is correct. 23 MR. SNELBAKER: We are going to rule on 24 those that indeed we have already taken the position that 25 the application of Ordinance 26 to this situation in the 4 r? J curative amendment procedure is not relevant, and that therefore there was no purpose in issuing these subpoenas, and I am going to make that recommendation to Mr. Pecht. Now, the next one, the third one, is directed to the Court Administrator of the Cumberland County Court of Common Pleas, and it refers to a number of documents, which I believe are all pictorial-type things with, like, photographs and videotapes; and I assume that they are from the case which has been pending for some time in which you are the defendant in the equity action; is that the one? MR. CARIGNAN: That is correct, as referenced in the subpeona. MR. SNELBAKER: Yeah. Okay. The answer to that is since we have no idea what those photographs are, I guess we will pass upon those at some later time in the meeting this evening. obviously, they can't be executed tonight, so we will pass upon whether or not they would be signed. Do you have evidence to present tonight? MR. CARIGNAN: Yes, I have evidence to present. MR. SNELBAKER: to have an expert. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 i understood you were going 5 y, 1 MR. CARIGNAN: As I referred to the Board at 2 the workshop meeting, that my witness would not be here 3 this evening, that we would continue on our burden of 4 showing the adversities of what these ordinances have put 5 upon us, and we would continue with that portion of it. 6 The pictorial evidence -- basically, we were 7 going to use as reference point, and we wanted to use 8 those pictures to reference back so the Board would have 9 a clearer understanding of what items are either being 10 requested to be removed, and how it relates to the 11 ordinances in question here. 12 Will we be having a ruling on the subpoenas 13 first, not that we will have those for this evening. 14 MR. SNELBAKER: We won't have them anyhow 15 for this evening so what do we do -- what do you wish to 16 do, assuming that there -- that they -- that the subpeona 17 would be issued? 18 MR. CARIGNAN: At this hearing we could 19 discuss whatever problems that you would have with those 20 subpoenas so we could get that out of the way so we could 21 reference those. J 22 MR. SNELBAKER: The material would not be 23 generated until some time after this hearing closes, in 24 about five minutes, and what are we going to do with that 25 material, whenever it is produced, that would be produced 6 1 1 at some later time. 2 MR. CARIGNAN: What -- 3 MR. SNELBAKER: The hearing will be 4 completed at 7:20 this evening, as I understood your 5 agreement. 6 MR. CARIGNAN: That was my request, and as I 7 had put forth, the Board requested me to inform them if 8 that was not the case, which I did at the workshop 9 meeting. 10 MR. SNELBAKER: Okay. Let me ask you this: 11 What evidence are you going to present tonight? Do you 12 have witnesses to call? 13 MR. CARIGNAN: We have some evidence to -- I 14 have one witness, my wife, which she will be shortly 15 arriving. And then also we wanted to demonstrate how, 16 you know, this has -- the ordinance has affected us. 17 Then we would have the judge's decree nisi, 18 we would like to enter, unless the Township is willing to 19 stipulate the ordinances that we have put forth in our 20 curative amendment were not the ordinances that were at 21 issue in my prosecution, which would save us time. 22 MR. SNELBAKER: Are you going to accomplish 23 that in the next five minutes? 24 MR. CARIGNAN: I am putting forth to the 25 Township, to you as Solicitor, is the Township willing to 7 r"^1 1 stipulate, okay, that those things that are contained 2 within my curative amendment are the same issues under 3 which the adjudication and the ultimate ruling that -- 4 MR. SNELBAKER: No, the Board is not going 5 to stipulate to anything, Mr. Carignan. It is your 6 burden to produce whatever it is that you are going to 7 produce into evidence, and we are here to receive that, 8 that's why we are here this evening. 9 MR. CARIGNAN: And that's correct. What I 10 am saying, since you preempted me from being able to 11 question zoning ordinances and old zoning ordinances 12 under the 1995 issue that we put forth, you said they 13 were no longer relevant, okay? 14 If the Board is intent on this last contempt 15 hearing that they have indeed changed the ordinances that 16 I am in violation of, okay, I just want to know, are we 17 still under the old ordinances that I violated that I am 18 still being prosecuted? 19 MR. SNELBAKER: I said earlier on in the 20 hearings, in fact, I think I said this in the first 21 hearing, that we were not going to retry the equity case 22 that's been pending at the courthouse. We are not going 23 to retry that here. 24 MR. CARIGNAN: That's not what we are doing. 25 We are putting forth requests that the stipulation -- J 8 1 1 MR. SNELBAKER: There would be no 2 stipulation. I am going to indicate that right now 3 because I have no idea what the stipulation means. So if 4 you have something to present, then you present that, and 5 I will rule on that as we go down the line. 6 MR. CARIGNAN: That the items contained -- 7 those ordinances cited within my curative amendment 8 relate to the judge's original order, and those are the 9 ordinances that I have been found in violation of, which 10 is the subject of the contempt proceedings against me. 11 MR. SNELBAKER: That's a statement. 12 MR. CARIGNAN: That's correct. 13 MR. SNELBAKER: okay. You've referred to a 14 statement. I don't know what it means. 15 MR. CARIGNAN: Is the Township ready to 16 stipulate to that? 17 MR. SNELBAKER: I have told you 18 Mr. Carignan, this will be the third time and the last 19 time that I will tell you that the Board will not 20 stipulate to any matters concerning the involvement of 21 the equity case that's pending in the Cumberland County 22 Court. These two proceedings are entirely different and 23 separate. 24 MR. CARIGNAN: As what has been put forth 25 before, you have to show an aggravation from the 9 n 1 ordinances to be able to come forth under these 2 procedures, okay, the aggravation to make it right for 3 judicial review says that we have to be in violation of 4 those ordinances. Okay? That's why we put forth the 5 1995 issues under the 1995 zoning ordinance. Okay? And 6 that's -- 7 MR. SNELBAKER: I am not agreeing. I am 8 receiving your statements. They are, as I understand it, 9 arguments that go to various matters, which frankly, at 10 the moment, I don't quite understand; but we are allowing 11 you to make whatever arguments that you permit so that 12 it's on the record. If you have witnesses, now is the 13 time to call them and proceed. 14 MR. CARIGNAN: So the subpoenas for -- as 15 far as ordinance 26, which we had already started to 16 enter information in at the first hearing, will no longer 17 be allowed to be presented; is that -- 18 MR. SNELBAKER: I am going to recommend to 19 the Chairman that they not be issued for the reasons that 20 they deal with irrelevant material, which I have 21 explained repeatedly in several hearings, and you will 22 find it in the record as to all of my reasons for having 23 disallowed evidence on the points of the involvement of 24 Ordinance Number 26. 25 MR. CARIGNAN: Ordinance 26 was the subject 10 ¦ 1 J 1 of the prosecution in the court before Judge Oler in 2 which the Township has pursu ed me. I fail to understand 3 how it cannot be relevant. Could you explain that to me, 4 please? 5 MR. SNELBAKER: Mr. Carignan, I think I have 6 done that repeatedly. No, I am not going to go back 7 through it again. It's in t he record. I trust that you 8 are looking at the record. 9 MR. CARIGNAN: The record stated basically 10 that you said that ordinance 26 was still in force and 11 effect; is that correct? 12 MR. SNELBAKER: Please, I am not on trial. 13 Don't ask me the questions. I want you to present your 14 evidence, that's why we are here tonight. 15 MR. CARIGNAN: We would like to reserve the 16 right to call Mr. Hall back, and Mr. Steigleman will 17 present additional reasoning s. 18 MR. SNELBAKER: Well, that particular 19 request will not be granted as to the reservation of a 20 right. I understand that yo u may want to do that, but 21 the Board is in no position to say that they will grant 22 that as a matter of right. 23 MR. CARIGNAN: Okay. 24 MR. SNELBAKER: Mr. Chairman, I am looking 25 at the clock on the wall. I don't know where we are at 11 n) J 1 on time. 2 CHAIRMAN PECHT: Do you have your expert 3 witness tonight? 4 MR. CARIGNAN: As I explained at the 5 workshop meeting, which I know you were not present at, 6 is that our expert was not available this evening. 7 I requested guidance from the Board, after 8 that which Mr. Dunn had said that since it was already 9 advertised, that, you know, we can still come and present 10 our evidence; but our expert would not be available this 11 evening, and we are -- I don't know what meeting dates 12 you will have for our next meeting or what time is set 13 that I could relate to him to figure if that will be 14 within his schedule. 15 CHAIRMAN PECHT: I would say, given the 16 time, that I would close the record in this hearing now. 17 This hearing will be continued until March 17th, at 18 6:30 p.m., at which time this Board will take all of the 19 rest of the evidence in this matter, and there will be no 20 further continuances after that date. 21 MR. SNELBAKER: And at that meeting, also we 22 will take the testimony of those persons who are 23 interested in the audience. 24 We know that some of them have been here on 25 several occasions, and I believe that your statement was 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 that all of the testimony will be heard and concluded that night, no matter how long it takes. CHAIRMAN PHCHT: That's correct. MR. CARIGNAN: Thank you. (Whereupon, the meeting adjourned at 7:24 p.m.) 13 CERTIFICATE I hereby certify that the proceedings are contained fully and accurately in the notes taken by me on the above cause and that this is a correct transcript of the same. e K. Troutman, RPR dor??rain Notary Public D J ORIGINAL SILVER SPRING TOWNSHIP BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REGULAR MEETING Stenographic record of hearing held at 6475 Carlisle Pike, Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania. IN RE: CA 98-1 March 17, 1999, at 6:30 p.m. BOARD OF SUPERVISORS: WAYNE PECHT MARIA LEWIS WILLIAM DUNN JACKIE EAKIN JAN LeBLANC STA WILLIAM COOK KELLY KELCH JAMES HALL SUE ADAMS MARK BRUENING CHAIRMAN VICE CHAIRMAN SUPERVISOR SUPERVISOR SUPERVISOR FF: TWP. MANAGER ASST. MANAGER ZONING OFFICER SECRETARY TREASURER TWP. ENGINEER ES: SNELBAKER, BRENNEMAN & SPARE RICHARD SNELBAKER, ESQUIRE Lorraine K. Troutman, RPR Notary Public 2 a?" _J ?-_ ARCHIVE REPORTING SERVICE - 2336 N. Second Street (717) 234-5922 - Harrisburg, PA 17110 FAX (717) 234-6190 2 1 CHAIRMAN PECHT: I call to order a special 2 meeting of the Board of Supervisors of Silver Spring 3 Township, and turn the meeting over to the Solicitor to 4 conduct a hearing which will be the final hearing on a 5 curative amendment action now pending before this Board. 6 MR. SNELBAKER: This is the time and place 7 fixed for the continued hearing. Just for the record we 8 want to note the fact that hearings have been held as 9 follows in this matter: November 11, 1998; November 18, 10 1998; January 27, 1999; February 24, 1999, and tonight, 11 March 17, 1999. 12 I believe that Mrs. Carignan, one of the 13 petitioners is present, so we are ready to proceed. 14 (Whereupon, Mr. Carignan entered the meeting 15 room.) 16 MR. SNELBAKER: Mr. Carignan, we are ready. 17 You are on. 18 MR. CARIGNAN: Okay. Before the Board 19 starts, here, I had requested subpoenas on the 24th. 20 Those were presented before the Board. I received those 21 subpoenas only Monday afternoon of this week. 22 Yesterday I went up to the courthouse to 23 retrieve that information and was denied that 24 information. It is part of our appeal, and a lot of that 25 information was shipped up to the appellate court, as we 3 1 had submitted to the township, was a subpeona also to the 2 appellate court and the superior court. We are without 3 that information now to be able to present that evidence. 4 We had put this forth before the Board on 5 the 24th, and requested those subpoenas be issued. Due 6 to the lateness of getting them to me and trying to deal 7 with the Court Administrator's Office, we do not have 8 that information, which makes it impossible for us to 9 proceed forth without those -- the pictorial evidence 10 that we need. 11 CHAIRMAN PECHT: Did you serve the subpeona? 12 MR. CARIGNAN: I did indeed. 13 CHAIRMAN PECHT: What were you told? 14 MR. CARRIGNAN: We were told we needed to 15 file an additional motion in order to gain access to 16 that. 17 MR. SNELBAKER: Did you? 18 MR. CARIGNAN: We could not. That was 19 yesterday afternoon. We went up today and have 20 duplicated Defendant's Exhibit Number 1, which was the 21 videotape. That is the only piece of evidence that we 22 were able to retrieve. All of the other evidence has 23 been filed at the appellate court with some smaller 24 pieces down at the lower court level; that's why we 25 submitted two subpeonas to cover both of those areas. J 4 1 Those subpoenas, as I said, I did not get 2 until Monday afternoon, and we would have been happy to 3 file with the Court that paperwork and those proceedings, 4 but we were not allowed the time to do so. 5 CHAIRMAN PECHT: What were you going to 6 present through those subpoenas? What were you hoping to 7 bring in here? 8 MR. CARRIGNAN: To determine which items had 9 been volatile of the new zoning ordinance, which is what 10 we have been restricted to. 11 MR. SNELBAKER: What precise items were you. 12 going to bring in? 13 MR. CARIGNAN: Pictorial evidence that was 14 presented. 15 MR. SNELBAKER: All right. okay. 16 MR. CARIGNAN: We need that information to 17 be able to proceed. 18 MS. SNELBAKER: Do you have any witnesses? 19 MR. CARIGNAN: I do. 20 MR. SNELBAKER: Do you want to call them? 21 MR. CARRIGNAN: We are requesting the 22 continuance on the basis that those subpoenas were issued 23 late. 24 MR. SNELBAKER: That would be up to the 25 Board to consider. I will turn that over to the Board at .J 5 1 the appropriate time. We are here to take evidence. Are 2 we going to hear evidence tonight? 3 MR. CARIGNAN: We sure can. 4 MR. SNELBAKER: Let's proceed. 5 MR. CARIGNAN: What I would like to do with 6 my witnesses, to get him back to his vocation, I called 7 Mr. Hall at the prior hearing, and I would like to call 8 my witness so he could be released. Would that be okay? 9 MR. SNELBAKER: Absolutely. 10 MR. CARIGNAN: I call Terry Leininger. 11 Whereupon, 12 TERRY LEININGER, 13 having been duly sworn testified as follows: 14 DIRECT EXAMINATION 15 BY MR. CARRIGNAN: 16 Q And Mr. Leininger, could you tell us what 17 your vocation is? 18 A Automotive repair and service. 19 Q And your schooling on that? 20 A Two years training from 176 to 178 at a 21 technical institute, and have been self-employed 16 years 22 since. 23 Q Okay. So you're fairly familiar with most of 24 the aspects of automotive operation and service of, say, 25 small engines and other pieces of equipment? _J 6 D J 1 A Very. 2 Q What types of things do you do in your 3 vocation as far as repairs go? 4 A Pretty much everything except auto body 5 repair, so it basically includes engine overhall, 6 transmissions, state inspection, exhaust, everything 7 except body work. 8 Q Okay. And, let's see, you've been employed 9 16 years in that vocation? 10 A Yes. Self-employed. Right. 11 Q Okay. Now, I guess the question that we have 12 before the Hoard here is dangerous -- or possible dangers 13 of what would be called either disabled vehicles, as it 14 relates to some of the zoning ordinances. 15 In your opinion if, let's say, a vehicle were 16 disabled and weren't able to be removed, in your expert 17 opinion, does that make it any more dangerous than, say, 18 an operating vehicle? 19 A No, it does not make it anymore dangerous 20 whether you are doing any types of repair, engine work, 21 transmission work, exhaust, any type of inspection work, 22 any type of repair of anything. I can't see how a 23 disabled vehicle would be any more dangerous than one 24 that is operatable. 25 Q So you've heard of incidents where children 7 J 1 have been backed over in driveways, you've heard of 2 accidents on the highways? 3 A Yeah. 4 Q Have you ever heard of any incidents that 5 have disabled or maimed people on the highways that have 6 involved disabled vehicles? 7 A No, I don't think any did. 8 Q Now, as far as backing over children in 9 driveways, disabled vehicles doing anything like that? 10 A Nope. 11 Q Okay. 12 A I don't see where a disabled vehicle would be 13 any safety threat. 14 Q Okay. Let's pose, if there were, say, 15 broken glass and jagged edges. Would that be a problem? 16 A Possibly. Sure. 17 Q In your business, when you, say, remove an 18 engine or transmission, are most of the engine fluids 19 removed with that engine and transmission at that time? 20 A Yeah, and the battery is unhooked, of course. 21 Q So basically the leakage of, say, oils and 22 such, would be reduced because that's already been -- 23 A Right, reduced or completely eliminated. 24 None whatsoever that I can think of. 25 Q Okay. Do you have, say, disabled vehicles 8 1 stored at your place sometimes? 2 A Yeah, quite a bit. 3 Q And do you have any problems as far as 4 attracting children to that site because of those 5 vehicles? 6 A Nope. 7 Q And let's just say for sake of argument, if 8 an engine and transmission were removed from the car, 9 what possible danger would the removal of those two vital 10 items, making the vehicle operational, what danger would 11 that pose to just the general public? 12 A Again, I can't see any danger whatsoever that 13 would do to the public. You know, I think a vehicle that 14 is operational is a bit more dangerous than one that does 15 not operate. 16 Q okay. So that, let's say, an operating 17 vehicle, that would have, say, a hot exhaust system if a 18 child crawled under they would get burned, that's a good 19 point. But that wouldn't happen with disabled one if it 20 wasn't running? 21 A Correct. 22 Q As far as an operating vehicle, the keys were 23 left in the car, and the child wandered into that car, is 24 there a possibility that they could start the car, and 25 actually drive it down or get in an accident with it? 9 1 A Absolutely. Sure. 2 Q And as far as the child doing the same thing, 3 if they opened the car door and gained entrance into a 4 disabled vehicle, would that be the same type of 5 possibility, that type of danger? 6 A No, I see no harm whatsoever with a disabled 7 vehicle. 8 Q Okay. Do you have the occasion to use, say, 9 used items, used automobile parts or used parts at any 10 time within your vocation? 11 A Yes, we use used parts quite a bit. 12 Q Would you say it's an important part of your 13 business? 14 A I would say yes because of the cost factor 15 using used versus new. 16 Q If you are under a zoning ordinance that did 17 not allow you to either store these disabled vehicles 18 outside, would that greatly inhibit your business and 19 possibly put you out of business? 20 A It definitely would affect my business. I 21 don't do a lot of storing of used vehicles for parts. 22 It's more vehicles there for repair that are sitting 23 there waiting for repair, or I am repairing the engine, 24 and the car is sitting outside. 25 Q If a zoning ordinance was stated that a 10 1 vehicle was not operational, that it was considered junk, 2 and you were forbidden to store it outside of your 3 establishment, would that greatly impair your -- 4 A That would definitely affect my business if I 5 couldn't store vehicles, yeah. Correct. 6 Q And what about, say, oil for, if -- do you 7 receive your oil in large drums? 8 A Yes. 9 Q Okay. And do you have the occasion, 10 sometimes, to store those outside? 11 A Not new. We store used oil outside in tanks. 12 Q Okay. And generally that's retrieved then 13 later from a vender? 14 A Yes. 15 Q And if you had to store that inside, would 16 that be a great detriment to you? Would it waste a lot 17 of space? 18 A Sure, it would affect space. 19 Q Let's see. The storage of some of the units 20 that you removed, such as brake drums that are no longer 21 useable and, say, other automotive parts that you no 22 longer have a use for, if you couldn't store those 23 outside, would that also inhibit your business? 24 A Sure, it would affect space, absolutely. 25 Q And do you have the occasion to store other _i II 1 parts, just prior to them being used outside? 2 A We will store tires outside or we will cover 3 up an engine or transmission and keep it outside if it's 4 a good one. 5 Q And do you have the occasion, say, like truck 6 bodies and so on and so forth, have you seen them as 7 being used for storage parts or storage trailers? 8 A Right. Like a truck trailer or a box truck? 9 Yeah. Sure. 10 Q Okay. And also do -- with the storage, 11 utilizing the-so storage trailers with either the wheels 12 attached or wheels on, do you see any danger, um, in 13 utilizing those in your experience? 14 A 2 see no danger, no. 15 Q And as far as when you travel down through, 16 let's say, the Wal-Mart up here in Silver Spring Commons, 17 have you had a chance to see the tractor-trailer 18 utilizing storage, for storage, maybe, outside of Lowe's 19 or something? Possibly? 20 A Yep. 21 Q Okay. And that's in a public area, is it 22 not? 23 A Yep, it is. 24 Q And do you have some concern about safety in 25 dealing with those tractor-trailer-type bodies? J 12 1 A Well, I don't think it's a safety issue. I 2 don't think it's dangerous. I guess anything could be 3 dangerous in a given situation, maybe. 4 Q Okay. And as far as -- 5 MR. COOK: Mr. Chairman, excuse me. I 6 object. I am unclear as to why this testimony is being 7 presented. 8 I understand that the witness is a mechanic, 9 and yet he is expressing opinions on the safety of 10 particular items and vehicles. I am not sure if we heard 11 anything relative to his qualifications as it relates to 12 safety, and I don't see how the testimony would be 13 appropriate. 14 MR. SNELBAKER: Where are we going on this, 15 Mr. Carignan? 16 MR. CARIGNAN: Mr. -- 17 MR. SNELBAKER: What's he supposed to be 18 doing? 19 MR. CARIGNAN: He is testifying as to the 20 safety aspects with things that he is familiar with every 21 day. 22 MR. COOK: I'd be curious what his 23 credentials are to making determinations, safety or not. 24 I certainly know his occupation. I don't see how it 25 applies to safety. J 13 r- . J 1 MR. SNELBAKER: The question here is whether 2 or not the Silver Spring Zoning ordinance is 3 unconstitutional, and I am not sure that I understand how 4 you intend to use Mr. Leininger's testimony to establish 5 that. 6 MR. CARIGNAN: Part of the constitutionality 7 or part of that question goes to whether it unduly or 8 unreasonably restricts a use within the community, okay. 9 Mr. Leininger has testified that if he were 10 not permitted to store the items, such as used or 11 disabled vehicles outside of his operation, that would 12 greatly affect his business. 13 CHAIRMAN PECHT: Well, I don't think we are 14 dealing here with an automotive repair shop. 15 Mr. Leininger testified he operates a retail automotive 16 repair shop, and we are not dealing with one of those 17 here. 18 MR. CARIGNAN: That was the statement that 19 Mr. Spare had made when he broached it to the appellate 20 court. 21 MR. SNELBAKER: I don't care what Mr. Spare 22 said about it. How is Mr. Leininger testifying to 23 something that is in some way indicating an unlawful 24 ordinance here in Silver Spring Township? 25 MR. CARIGNAN: An unlawful ordinance as we 14 1 stated before, would be one that unreasonably or unduly 2 restricts a use within a municipality. 3 MR. SNELBAKER: I am going to sustain the 4 objection, Mr. Carignan, on the basis we are not dealing 5 with an automotive repair shop. 6 I am not aware of any testimony that's 7 established that this is what -- that's prohibited. In 8 fact, automotive repair is not a prohibited use under the 9 zoning ordinance so let's gets to something that's 10 relevant. 11 MR. CARIGNAN: Hold on a second. On the -- 12 we are dealing with the 1995 zoning ordinance. Now, uses 13 by right within C-3 zone provide that the uses within 14 that zone are permitted by right. 15 The outside storage -- just a second and I 16 will find that. C-3 zone, it would be Section 212.13 17 Outside Storage and Display. "Within this zone, outside 18 storage is permitted, provided all outside storage areas 19 are screened from adjoining roads and properties, and the 20 outdoor storage areas comply with the setbacks imposed 21 within this section. Outdoor display areas need not be 22 screened from adjoining roads, if they are located within 23 the front yard." 24 MR. SNELBAKER: So that is a permitted use, 25 that is what you are saying? `) 15 _i 1 MR. CARIGNAN: It is a permitted use. 2 MR. SNELBAKER: So that is not an issue. 3 MR. CARIGNAN: It is not an issue until we 4 go back into the section in article -- 5 MR. SNELBAKER: While we are waiting for 6 that. Mr. Leininger, what is your place of business? 7 Where is it located? 8 MR. LEININGER: On Brandy Lane in Hampden 9 Township. 10 MR. SNELBAKER: Thank you. 11 MR. CARIGNAN: Automotive parts store and 12 automotive repair and facil ities. 13 MR. SNELBAKER: Where are you reading from, 14 sir? 15 MR. CARIGNAN: This would be Section 405, 16 Section 405.4, No outside s torage of parts, equipment -- 17 MR. SNELBAKER: Is this out of the 195 18 Ordinance? 19 MR. CARIGNAN: Yes, it is. 20 MR. SNELBAKER: Go ahead. 21 MR. CARIGNAN: Outside storage, lubricants, 22 fuel or other materials used or discarded as a part of 23 the service or operation shall be permitted. The storage 24 of unlicensed vehicles is prohibited. 25 MR. SNELBAKER: What district is this in? j 16 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MR. CARIGNAN: This one states within the C-2 zone. MR. SNELBAKER: And what zone is your property in? MR. CARIGNAN: MR. SNELBAKER: MR. CARRIGNAN: MR. SNELBAKER: MR. CARIGNAN: MR. SNELBAKER: Mine is in the C-3 zone. Oh, okay. Section 406, automotive -- Where is that? Section 406. And that's in the C-2 zone also? MR. CARIGNAN: That is within the C-3 zone. Within the C-3 zone, "automobile, bus, class I recreational vehicle, boat, motorcycle and snow mobile repair and service facilities are permitted by conditional use subject to the following: All service and/or repair activities should be conducted within a completely enclosed building." Mr. Leininger, do you always do all of your repairs within a completely closed building? MR. SNELBAKER: We sustained the objection to the testimony of what Mr. Leininger does and what we are trying to find out. Now, what I gather what you are saying is that you can't operate or that there's no automotive I 17 1 repair shops allowed in Silver Spring Township Zoning 2 Ordinance. I gather that's where you are moving? 3 MR. CARIGNAN: Where we are moving to, since 4 we haven't been abreasted of what particular portion of 5 the new zoning ordinance we are alleged to have violated, 6 we are trying to move through with those areas that are 7 in conflict with our use. 8 In 406.4, "no outside storage of parts, 9 equipment, lubricants, fuel or other materials used or 10 discarded as a part of the service or repair operation 11 shall be permitted." 12 MR. SNELBAKER: We are not here tonight to 13 determine whether or not you are in violation of 14 anything. That's a whole other subject and you know 15 that. We have been involved with that for years. 16 We are now dealing with your allegation that 17 this ordinance is unconstitutional because it denies 18 uses, that's what I understand this is all about. 19 MR. CARIGNAN: Denies uses or unreasonably 20 restricts a use within the community. 21 MR. SNELBAKER: Okay. 22 MR. CARIGNAN: That's part of the fair share 23 analysis. 24 MR. SNELBAKER: What Mr. Leininger is 25 testifying to is what he does over in Hampden Township. J 18 1 I don't think that is at all relevant to what we are 2 doing in Silver Spring. I don't know if he knows what 3 that ordinance is about. 4 MR. CARIGNAN: That's why we are eliciting 5 his testimony -- 6 MR. SNELBAKER: Well, we are not going to -- 7 MR. CARIGNAN: -- to determine whether it 8 would affect his business or other facility within the 9 township, if they had to comply with these regulations. 10 MR. SNELBAKER: Well, that's a matter that 11 Mr. Leininger would have to be an expert in some field 12 other than the mechanical -- the operation of mechanical 13 shop in Hampden Township. Let's get on with the question 14 of in what way is this ordinance unconstitutional, vis a 15 vis, your property. 16 MR. CARIGNAN: It doesn't have to be solely 17 restricted to my property, now, does it? We said 18 throughout the township. 19 MR. SNELBAKER: You are the Complainant. 20 MR. CARIGNAN: That's right. 21 MR. SNELBAKER: And you are complaining that 22 something you wish to do on your property is prohibited, 23 and therefore, this is unlawful. That the whole 24 ordinance is unlawful. The fact that somebody down the 25 road here has a problem, that's not your problem. We are 19 D 1 not hearing that tonight. 2 MR. CARIGNAN: But someone down the road -- 3 we are eliciting his testimony, if his business or if he 4 were to consider coming into Silver Spring Township, 5 whether these restrictions would unduly restrict his use 6 within the municipality, and unreasonably if there are no 7 dangers, which is what the zoning ordinance has to relate 8 to, which is part of what we pled within the original 9 complaint with the constitutionality of it, if there 10 aren't safety and health concerns that can't be adduced 11 by some other means, that is unduly and unreasonable 12 restriction that is what we are pulling from his 13 testimony. All we would like to do is develop the record 14 to be able to do that and put that forth. 15 MR. SNELBAKER: You may argue that as much 16 as you like, but we are not going to take Mr. Leininger's 17 testimony on that, to what he might do if he were here or 18 what he does over in Hampden Township, so let's get on 19 now with the issues of in what way this ordinance is 20 unlawful. 21 MR. CARIGNAN: As I had stated before, if it 22 is unreasonable or unduly restrictive, that's a 23 constitutional question. 24 MR. SNELBAKER: Okay. You have had the 25 ruling so we -- you will have to live with that ruling. ¦', 1 1 19 J' 1 not hearing that tonight. 2 MR. CARIGNAN: But someone down the road -- 3 we are eliciting his testimony, if his business or if he 4 were to consider coming into Silver Spring Township, 5 whether these restrictions would unduly restrict his use 6 within the municipality, and unreasonably if there are no 7 dangers, which is what the zoning ordinance has to relate 8 to, which is part of what we pled within the original 9 complaint with the constitutionality of it, if there 10 aren't safety and health concerns that can't be adduced 11 by some other means, that is unduly and unreasonable 12 restriction that is what we are pulling from his 13 testimony. All we would like to do is develop the record 14 to be able to do that and put that forth. 15 MR. SNELBAKER: You may argue that as much 16 as you like, but we are not going to take Mr. Leininger's 17 testimony on that, to what he might do if he were here or 18 what he does over in Hampden Township, so let's get on 19 now with the issues of in what way this ordinance is 20 unlawful. 21 MR. CARIGNAN: As I had stated before, if it 22 is unreasonable or unduly restrictive, that's a 23 constitutional question. 24 MR. SNELBAKER: Okay. You have had the 25 ruling so we -- you will have to live with that ruling. 20 n? 1 MR. CARIGNAN: So is it this Board's 2 determination that Mr. Leininger can't answer any other 3 questions. 4 MR. SNELBAKER: Not on the subject matter 5 you are dealing with. I don't know if he has relevant 6 testimony, but certainly not in the nature that it is 7 proceeding up to this point. 8 MR. CARIGNAN: The sections that I have 9 talked about this through the zoning ordinance and have 10 approached him with, are you saying that I can no longer 11 go forth with those questions? 12 MR. SNELBAKER: Yes. 13 MR. CARRIGNAN: Mr. Leininger, does the 14 storage of a vehicle longer than a week or two weeks make 15 that vehicle more dangerous? 16 THE WITNESS: No. 17 MR. SNELBAKER: Where? Where does he store 18 it? Where? 19 MR. CARIGNAN: Storing it anywhere. 20 THE WITNESS: No. It doesn't make it any 21 more dangerous. 22 MR. CARIGNAN: If you were to store a 23 vehicle on a lot, does it make it any more dangerous that 24 it can or cannot operate? 25 THE WITNESS: In my opinion, no, it doesn't .J ?1. 21 I--?\ 1 make it any more dangerous. It may make it less 2 dangerous. 3 MR. COOK: Mr. Chairman, I object again. I 4 earlier made an objection I don't know what qualifies the 5 witness an expert in safety. I would be curious. Maybe 6 it might be of interest to the Board to have some 7 credentials. It is an opinion of a fellow that works in 8 the trade. I don't know how he is qualified to comment 9 and provide expert testimony on safety issues. 10 MR. CARIGNAN: Mr. Leininger is exposed to 11 these on a daily basis and evaluates those dangers with 12 customers coming in. He has insurance agents that enter 13 upon his property, and will advise him of such dangers if 14 they exist. In a small business you deal with those 15 dangers on a daily basis. 16 MR. SNELBAKER: The safety or danger in the 17 operation of a theoretical business is not before this 18 Board, Mr. Carignan. 19 MR. CARIGNAN: We are not discussing 20 theoretical. 21 MR. SNELBAKER: Just a second. I will tell 22 you one more time that we are not going to hear testimony 23 on what is good or bad about a theoretical business 24 that's not in operation, and is not being sought to be 25 prohibited to the best of my knowledge, and we are here _j 22 J 1 for the purpose of hearing your presentation on the 2 illegality of this, not on whether or not Mr. Leininger 3 believes that certain conditions are safe or not, that's 4 just all there is to it. 5 MR. CARIGNAN: Okay. Since the Board will 6 not allow that evidence to go upon the record, i will 7 turn Mr. Leininger for cross-examination so he can go 8 back to his vocation. Do you have any questions? 9 MR. COOK: No, sir. 10 MR. SNELBAKER: No questions from the 11 Township. Mr. Leininger, you are excused. 12 THE WITNESS: Thank you. 13 MR. CARIGNAN: Thank you, Mr. Leininger. 14 MR. SNELBAKER: Do you have another witness? 15 MR. CARRIGNAN: That's it for my witnesses. 16 We can present our videotape, and I guess we will go back 17 to Mr. Hall's testimony, then. Do you have an outlet or 18 cart that the Board would like to view -- 19 MR. SNELBAKER: Put it on the table -- I am 20 not going to have an extension cord that will reach that 21 far. You could pull the table over a little bit. 22 In the interest of conserving some time, 23 maybe you can talk a little bit while you are doing this. 24 The videotape that you are going to present -- 25 MR. CARIGNAN: This was Defendant's J 23 J 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Exhibit -- MR. SNELBAKER: Whose videotape is this, air? MR. CARIGNAN: Defendant's Exhibit Number 1 that was part of the action of Silver Spring versus Carignan. MR. SNELBAKER: If my recollection is correct, this is a survey of various places in Silver Spring Township a number of years ago? MR. CARIGNAN: Yes, it is. MR. SNELBAKER: And how is that relevant to what we saw -- what would that be, in 1997? MR. CARIGNAN: 1995. MR. SNELBAKER: 1995 -- MR. CARIGNAN: No, it was 1994. MR. SNELBAKER: 194. It was under an old ordinance, so the conditions at that time are not going to be relevant here tonight. MR. CARIGNAN: If those conditions exist today, and one the township was made aware of those conditions, Mr. Hall had come forth previously and stated that since the automotive repair facilities that were here prior to the adoption of the new zoning ordinance that they were grandfathered, this was his statement that they were non-conforming uses. 24 1 My -- I would go to the statement that under 2 the municipal planning code, it describes a 3 non-conforming use as one legally in operation at the 4 time of the adoption of the new zoning ordinance, which 5 would mean that those with the restrictions placed on the 6 1995 zoning ordinance, and also with the ordinance number 7 246, they could not be legally in operation. 8 MR. SNELBAKER: All right. You are going to 9 present, as I understand it, photographic or videotape 10 evidence of conditions that existed in 1994; is that 11 correct? 12 MR. CARIGNAN: That's correct. 13 MR. SNELBAKER: I don't see how that could 14 possibly be relevant to this proceeding tonight, 15 Mr. Carignan, whether it's on a non-conforming use or 16 whether it's a permitted use. 17 Now, before we get started on that, I would 18 like for you, if you will, please, because we keep going 19 round and round, to state exactly, precisely, 20 specifically, what it is that is wrong with this 21 ordinance, and for which you seek a curative amendment. 22 Please, tell us right here and now, if you will. 23 MR. CARIGNAN: I just did that not more than 24 three minutes ago. 25 MR. SNELBAKER: Please do it again. 25 ._i 1 MR. CARIGNAN: That it unduly and 2 unreasonably restricts the uses upon our property. We 3 can do it this way, also, Mr. Hall, where is my use 4 permitted -- 5 MR. SNELBAKER: Now, just a second. I want 6 to hear your explanation of what you are seeking tonight, 7 not what he thinks. What you believe is unlawful about 8 this ordinance, specifically with regard to your 9 property, and the uses which you believe are prohibited. 10 MR. CARIGNAN: The uses that I believe are 11 prohibited. We have to go to the 1995 ordinance or the 12 old ordinance? 13 MR. SNELBAKER: The 1995 ordinance is the 14 one that you've challenged, and we have already ruled 15 upon that a long time ago, that we are dealing with 16 current prevailing ordinance 1995. 17 MR. CARIGNAN: Well, basically what we have 18 to do is read through several zoning ordinances. 19 MR. SNELBAKER: I don't want to hear 20 readings. I want you to explain in specific terms what 21 it is that makes this ordinance unconstitutional. 22 MR. CARIGNAN: What we have to do is go 23 through the section of the zoning ordinance. 24 MR. SNELBAKER: You are going to make a 25 statement as to what it is as to what is unconstitutional 26 1 about this ordinance. That should be able to be done in 2 about two or three sentences, so we have a summary of 3 exactly what this is about. 4 MR. CARIGNAN: The storage of wrecked, 5 disabled, unlicenced, unregistered vehicles is prohibited 6 within the township. 7 MR. CARIGNAN: Any used '>tems stored within 8 the Municipality of Silver Spring under the definition of 9 the definition here is unlawful. 10 MR. SNELBAKER: Now, if this is the case, 11 then we don't need evidence on that. What we need to 12 hear is your argument as to in what way is this 13 prohibited. You have already stated that these things 14 are prohibited. Now, what you have to do is argue it. 15 MR. CARIGNAN: I have stated that by the 16 interpretation of portions of the zoning ordinance, okay, 17 in reading through with the Municipal Planning Code's 18 determinations, but the township has amended some of the 19 language of what the Municipal Planning Code empowers the 20 townships and municipalities to do. 21 The two sections that are toughest would be 22 the 104 in interpretation and 105 conflict. The two, 23 depending on which one you choose, the one under 104, 24 under interpretation, is what the Municipal Planning Code 25 empowers. 27 1 There is no section for 105 under conflicts, 2 which to me, in reading through the zoning ordinance, is 3 one in the same. Yet it wants to impose a greater 4 restriction in what is -- 5 MR. SNELBAKER: Okay, now, having had your 6 explanation of what it is, is there any additional 7 evidence, facts to come before this body, so that we can 8 then close this record, and take oral argument or written 9 argument, if you prefer? 10 MR. CARIGNAN: I would much prefer written 11 argument. 12 MR. SNELBAKER: Do you have it with you? 13 MR. CARIGNAN: No. 14 MR. SNELBAKER: We are going to close the 15 hearing tonight. You were told that before. What we 16 want to do is make certain that we have all of the 17 evidence of record so that we have that completed, and I 18 am giving you that opportunity, and you say you have no 19 more witnesses. 20 MR. CARIGNAN: I have no more witnesses. 21 The photographic evidence we had prior, and plus I 22 haven't been told by the municipality what I am supposed 23 to remove from my property, so that determination hasn't 24 been put forth. How can I determine what use is being 25 objected to, if I can't tell what items are to be ./ 28 1 removed. 2 If it's the position of the municipality 3 that wrecked and disabled vehicles are permitted to be 4 stored within the zone that I am in, then what is the 5 Township's basis for their removal from me? 6 MR. SNELBAKER: Well, we have been through 7 that time and again, and we all know that that case has 8 been decided. We all know that you are under directive 9 to remove various things. We all know that you have 10 prohibited the township from coming on your property. 11 We are now pending in court, as I understand 12 it, to come on and make that determination. In another 13 case, not this one. Now, we are not going to tell you 14 what you have to remove. The question is, what is wrong 15 with the ordinance, as it stands, that makes it unlawful 16 and unconstitutional? 17 I don't know that there is any more 18 evidence. I seriously don't think that there could be 19 any more evidence, just as a practical matter. And I 20 think we are down now to the point where oral or legal 21 argument is to be made, and we are here to receive that, 22 after we hear whether the township has any evidence to 23 present. But you have the floor to present evidence, 24 facts. 25 MR. CARIGNAN: That's what we are putting 29 1 forth is evidence. Mr. Leininger was part of our 2 evidence. The photographic evidence from the appeal at 3 court which we subpoenaed, and also the lower court which 4 we subpoenaed, but due to the fact that we were given 5 them at such a late date, we could not obtain those 6 because we were not able to file and put through the 7 motions that were necessary to obtain them. S Those are the facts, and the photographic 9 evidence, is what we need to put forth. It's been our 10 pleadings in that court case that you put forth that we 11 used that property as a service and repair facility, as 12 it had been done prior to our arrival, and had been used 13 in conjunction with the property that is there. 14 MR. SNELBAKER: Can a property now under the 15 C-3, in your opinion, be used for that type of use? 16 MR. CARIGNAN: By the Municiple Planning 17 Code's -- 18 MR. SNELBAKER: By C-3. 19 MR. CARIGNAN: By the Municipal Planning 20 Code's interpretation of conflicts, yes, it would. If 21 you read it by Silver Spring Zoning ordinance, no, it 22 isn't. 23 MR. SNELBAKER: Oh, okay. Then that's 24 argument. 25 MR. CARIGNAN: This is a circular argument 30 i 1 is basically what it is from the Township, depending on 2 which sections you read, whether they totally prohibit it 3 or not depends on which section the Board wishes to 4 review. 5 MR. SNELBAKER: Well, we are not going to 6 engage in this kind of debate, you and I. We are here to 7 take evidence. I am going to ask you one more time 8 whether you have any factual evidence to present. 9 MR. CARIGNAN: Factual evidence, it was this 10 Board -- 11 MR. SNELBAKER: Do you? Yes or no? 12 MR. CARIGNAN: (POSITIVE INDICATION) 13 MR. SNELBAKER: Present it then. 14 MR. CARIGNAN: This board was a board that 15 came after me, sought prosecution in the prior case. 16 MR. SNELBAKER: Is this the testimony? 17 MR. CARIGNAN: If I need to swear to it. I 18 assumed I already was. 19 (Mr. Carignan was sworn.) 20 My name is Greg Carignan. 6495 Carlisle 21 Pike is the property that we are in possession of, which 22 has been the subject of this Board's lawsuit against us 23 to eliminate a non-conforming use that had pre-dated the 24 ownership or my ownership. The non-conforming use was 25 one that I adopted from Mr. DePasquale and his prior J 31 1 ownership, which dates back to 1961, upon that property. 2 When I moved in, and had been on this 3 property, no one had ever advised me of any occupancy 4 permits. That was never pled by the township in the 5 preceding court case. Neither has the new zoning 6 ordinance come into play in the contempt proceedings. 7 So it is -- if it is the position of the 8 Township that the ordinances that I was convicted of are 9 re-appealed, then so dies the order that Judge Oler had 10 initiated. The conflicts between the 1995 zoning 11 ordinance and also ordinance 26 repealed that ordinance 12 with different subsections that are in it, and that's all 13 part of the legal argument that we will present. 14 We are still agrieved by an ordinance that 15 had been repealed, and that was the basis of our initial 16 curative amendment because Ordinance 26 in the 1995 17 zoning ordinance of which we are still being aggravated 18 by, we -- the Township has put forth an order that they 19 seek to abate certain articles off of our property, which 20 in our opinion no longer constitutes a nuisance. 21 In fact, since there has been no evidence 22 presented in that fact at the court hearing, nor has the 23 new zoning ordinance that has been put forth been taken 24 into consideration. The truck bodies that I have been -- 25 which Mr. Hall says are in violation of the judge's 32 Ma J J 1 order, pre-date my ownership of the property. They were 2 on the property before. 3 This Township staff has told others that 4 truck bodies may be used as storage facilities within the 5 municipality. And we will have affidavits to be entered 6 on that. We do not have them yet tonight, I have not 7 been able to talk with the folks that the township staff 8 has discussed these issues with. 9 The storage upon the property that we 10 utilize for our service and repairs, which is what we 11 have pled from day one, and is in all of the pleadings, 12 we also put forth that we wish to enter as part of our 13 evidence the proceedings that happened in the Silver 14 Springs versus Carignan in the Equity action of 94-3422. 15 The pleadings, also all evidence that was of 16 record, we want incorporated -- or we desire to have 17 incorporated into this hearing. Since the part of our 18 legal argument will be utilizing the latter briefs from 19 the township on the contempt hearings, and so on that 20 have been put forth, the Township has not proceeded forth 21 with any of the new 1995 but are utilizing what the order 22 based on the 195 zoning ordinance and also ordinance 26, 23 which in our opinion has been repealed by the 1995 zoning 24 ordinance has and the section in the back with -- that 25 pertains to repeals and inconsistencies within the 33 1 zoning -- or -- Section 705 which reads: "Repeals and 2 Inconsistencies: Any resolution or ordinance, or part 3 thereof, inconsistent herewith and any amendments thereof 4 are hereby expressly repealed." 5 By incorporating the rest of the action, 6 the equity action that was pursued against me and also 7 the petitions for contempt will incorporate the rest of 8 the evidence that we need to put forth to be able to 9 utilize what we believe the unconstitutionalities of the 10 195 and also ordinance 26 so that we may brief those 11 within our complaint. 12 As this Board knows, and what most people 13 do, that I have already spent three months plus another 14 11 days in Cumberland County, plus another close to six 15 months under house arrest for requesting what is supposed 16 to be removed, which I have been denied that information 17 since day one. So that's what we seek. 18 And due to the ambiguous language and some 19 of the things that we have put forth in our curative 20 amendment, which are overly broad, and incorporate most 21 everything else under the sun or could be reasonably 22 interpreted to do that, that's part of why our petition 23 for curative amendment was filed. 24 As far as defense exhibits, we have 25 ordinance 26 on file; is that correct? Defendant's ®, 34 1 Exhibit number 1, I believe it was -- 2 (Mr. Snelbaker checked his file) 3 MR.. SNELBAKER: Go ahead. 4 MR. CARIGNAN: We'd also request that the 5 subpoenas that we had put forth in petition to have put 6 into the record, we would request that they also be made 7 part of the evidence in record in this matter. 8 I have in my possession somewhere here, and 9 I will put back out, is the Township's receipt and the 10 dating of the subpeona that was authorized by 11 Mr. Pecht, we'd like that entered on the record because 12 that shows the date that the municipality received it, 13 the date and delay in which it was issued, and then we 14 also have on the facts when I received it here on Monday 15 afternoon. 16 MR. SNELBAKER: If you want that to be part 17 of the record, I'd suggest that you give us copies of 18 that right now so that it can be marked and included. 19 MR. CARRIGNAN: My videotape evidence will 20 not be received. Am I correct in that presumption? 21 MR. SNELBAKER: That was the ruling, yes. 22 MR. CARIGNAN: of course we would like to 23 file our objection to that as we have before. We also 24 feel that I don't want to waste everyone's testimony. 25 MR. SNELBAKER: We are going to do this now, 35 1 before it gets away from us. 2 MR. CARIGNAN: The pictorial evidence was 3 3 or denied. I don't think we got to 3. We might be 4 missing one in between. The other subpoenas the Township 5 has within their possession, as they were served to the 6 Board or to Township staff, so I have none of those. 7 Will you make them part of the record, Mr. Pecht? 8 MR. SNELBAKER: Who did you subpeona from 9 the Township? 10 MR. CARIGNAN: Mr. Pecht is the one who is 11 authorized under the Municipal Planning Code as a 12 Chairman of the Board to authorize subpoenas. 13 MR. SNELBAKER: No, no, no. Who did you 14 issue the subpoenas to appear? Mr. Hall was one person 15 that I believe you subpoenaed. Right? 16 MR. CARIGNAN: That's correct. 17 MR. SNELBAKER: He is here. That's no 18 problem. 19 MR. CARIGNAN: We do because he was also 20 subpoenaed to bring in additional evidence, which you 21 ruled was not relevant. We want that as part of the 22 record. 23 MR. SNELBAKER: That's part of the record. 24 What all you requested was made part of the record. What 25 subpoenas were not served, you mentioned one to an .--I) 36 1 appellate court? 2 MR. CARIGNAN: That's correct, was not 3 signed by Mr. Pec ht. 4 MR. SNELBAKER: Is that the one we have 5 here? 6 MR. CARIGNAN: That's to the lower court. 7 MR. SNELBAKER: The one applicant's exhibit 8 3 this evening, w hat was tha t for? 9 MR. CARIGNAN: Lower Court of Common Pleas, 10 Cumberland County . 11 MR. SNELBAKER: Where is the one appellate 12 Court or don't yo u care abou t that? 13 MR. CARIGNAN: I do care about that. That 14 is where our evid ence went. That was given to Mr. Pecht. 15 MR. SNELBAKER: Do you have a copy? 16 MR. CARIGNAN: No, I do not. 17 MR. SNELBAKER: That was directed to whom? 1B MR. CARIGNAN: To the keeper of the records 19 at the appellate court level . 20 MR. SNELBAKER: Commonwealth Court? 21 MR. CARIGNAN: Commonwealth Court. 22 MR. SNELBAKER: Well, we will take note of 23 that, and if it's available, it will be made part of the 24 record. But the fact that you issued or asked for the 25 issuance of subpe ona made part of the record. 37 J I MR. CARIGNAN: Okay. Also our letter dated 2 March the 3rd, 1999, I will enter as Defendant's Exhibit 3 Number 4. Do you want to take a look at this beforehand? 4 MR. SNELBAKER: No, you better show it to 5 the Township. Oh, okay -- to Mr. Cook. 6 MR. CARIGNAN: Mr. Cook wouldn't have 7 received that. 8 MR. SNELBAKER: He has to see it. He's the 9 township staff at this point. 10 (Exhibit was shown to Mr. Cook) 11 MR. SNELBAKER: Let's make it part of the 12 record. 13 MR. CARIGNAN: And additionally, part of 14 what our curative amendment entailed also was the appeal 15 rates that had been determined by the board, and also my 16 request for a listing of what formulates the fees charged 17 by the Zoning Hearing Board and for curative amendments. 18 So through my testimony I'd like to put 19 forth that on Upper Allen, the Zoning Hearing Board to 20 appeal to the zoning hearing board in Upper Allen 21 Township is some $300.00. We have for Upper Allen also 22 for variances and special exceptions are $250.00, for new 23 construction is $300.00, and commercial ones are $350.00. 24 MR. SNELBAKER: Well, this is part of your 25 Zoning Hearing Board appeal, wasn't it? 38 1 MR. CARIGNAN: This is part -- we tried to 2 determine from township staff, I was trying to pat forth 3 everything together. This is a part of my appeal that 4 was -- the same petition went before them and to you 5 because th at's what I was told to do by staff. 6 Mr. Kelch informed me to do it that way. 7 Mr. Cook, then, later said we needed to separate it out 8 on the day that the appeal needed to be filed. So that's 9 part of th e confusion with the petition -- 10 MR. SNELBAKER: This is a curative -- excuse 11 me. This is a curative amendment proceeding, and you're 12 challenge to the fee structure is something that would go 13 to the zon ing hearing board, and my recollection was that 14 there was a hearing held for that purpose. 15 MR. CARIGNAN: No record was developed but 16 there was a hearing -- 17 MR. SNELBAKER: Well, I believe the 18 appellant didn't appear at that hearing. 19 MR. SNELBAKER: The appellant did appear. 20 He appeared at 7:00, which is the time that -- 21 MR. SNELBAKER: Well, let's not argue about 22 that. 23 MR. CARIGNAN: Okay. 24 MR. SNELBAKER: It was developed there, 25 and -- or that was part of the appeal, as I recall. J 39 1 That's not before us, Mr. Carrigan. 2 MR. CARIGNAN: Okay. 3 MR. SNELBAKER: I am looking at your 4 curative amendment application, and there is nothing in 5 it, as far as I can see, having anything to do with the 6 fees. 7 MR. CARIGNAN: I believe it was included in 8 it. 9 MR. SNELBAKER: Well, it's not part of the 10 curative amendment process, and so we will not take any 11 evidence on that. 12 MR. CARIGNAN: All right. The only other 13 thing then that we would need to raise, just for review 14 by the courts in the future, would be the conflict of 15 interest that we filed, that we have here, and part of 16 what's shown with us not being able to develop a record 17 for review, and we want to present that forth. 18 One municipality here was the one that has 19 sought or has prosecuted me, and now has to evaluate the 20 constitutionality of an ordinance that came before it, 21 and sought prosecution which was put forth to them before 22 the new adoption of the zoning ordinance, yet they 23 proceeded forth anyway. So we have that, and to 24 acknowledge by the defects of the old, 1976 ordinance, 25 and ordinance 26, would put the Board in peril for 40 1 lawsuits, if they were to rule that they were 2 unconstitutional, and also it was your law firm, 3 Mr. Snelbaker, who initiated the initial prosecution in 4 my case, and now is sitting in judgment upon this 5 curative amendment. 6 Secondly, with the evidence that we had for 7 your referral to the Zoning Hearing Board was in denial 8 of this application, which the Zoning Hearing Board did. 9 So we feel that due to the statements that you made here 10 in a public meeting, that you have a certain prejudice 11 towards this case, and we have objected to your sitting. 12 MR. SNELBAKER: That's the first that you've 13 objected. Okay? 14 MR. CARIGNAN: We didn't object in the 15 prior -- in the first hearing you allowed evidence in. 16 We tried to work within the constraints which you have 17 put forth, and we have not been able to do so. 18 MR. SNELBAKER: Just noting the fact that 19 there was no objection made until this evening. 20 MR. CARIGNAN: And to be on the record, we 21 have requested a continuance for us to get the appellate 22 pictures and pictoral evidence at the appellate court, 23 and also at the lower court, and the time to do so. 24 MR. SNELBAKER: The Board will take that 25 under consideration. I mentioned that to you earlier. 41 .J 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MR. CARIGNAN: were of record on that. MR. SNELBAKER: evidence? MR. CARIGNAN: That concludes the evidence that we have to present. MR. SNELBAKER: We are going to take a brief recess for the Board to discuss the matter of your request for a continuance. I need to talk to that in executive session. CHAIRMAN PECHT: The Board will recess to executive session for three minutes. (Whereupon, a break was taken from 7:30 p.m. 7:33 p.m.) MR. SNELBAKER: We are back in session now. The Board has met, Mr. Carignan, and the request for continuance is denied. Now, the record -- you've indicated that you've presented all of your evidence. I turn to the township. Do you have any township to present, Mr. Cook? MR. COOK: No evidence to present. However, we do have a position. MR. SNELBAKER: Okay. Now, at this point, I note that folks in the back of the room have been here faithfully throughout I wanted to make sure that we Does that conclude the 42 1 these various hearings, and in anticipation, I believe, 2 of perhaps, saying something for the record. 3 Does someone wish to make any statement for 4 the record? Let me say that we are here tonight dealing 5 with a legal problem, not a factual one. The legal one 6 is whether or not this ordinance, zoning ordinance of 7 1995, is unconstitutional because it in some way 8 prohibits some lawful use anywhere in the township. 9 Now, there will be legal arguments, we are 10 going to have that yet this evening, and then the Board 11 has 45 days within which to make a decision. The record 12 is being made by the young lady here, and the evidence 13 that is before us is basically that which has been 14 presented by Mr. and Mrs. Carignan. 15 So if you wish to speak, you would have to 16 speak on the issue of the legality of the ordinance as 17 you would see it, and you, of course, by testifying would 18 be subject to cross-examination by Mr. Carignan, and also 19 by the township, should you wish to speak. 20 i am not trying to discourage anybody from 21 speaking, but this is not the place to re-litigate that 22 which is going on at the courthouse in the injunction 23 case. Many of you which I have seen there. So you know 24 what that's all about. With that in mind, does anybody 25 have anything that they would like to say? 43 1 (NO AUDIBLE RESPONSE) 2 MR. SNELBAKER: Not -- no one appearing to 3 wish to speak, the evidence in this matter will now be 4 deemed to have been -- or the record in this case will be 5 deemed to be closed, and we will, with the Board's 3 J 6 indulgence, be prepared to hear argument at this time, 7 and in anticipation of making a decision within the time 8 limit. Is that agreeable with the Board? 9 CHAIRMAN PECHT: Yes. We will hear argument 10 off the record. 11 (Whereupon, argument was held off the record 12 at 7:36 p.m. until 7:40 p.m.) 13 MR. SNELBAKER: It's my understanding that 14 Mr. Carrignan has stipulated and agreed and the Board has 15 agreed -- the township has agreed, that a brief from 16 Mr. Carrignan is to be mailed no later than Saturday, 17 April 17, 1999 to both the Board of Supervisors and to 18 Township Manager, and from that date there will be 20 19 days allowed to the Township to file its motion, again to 20 be mailed on the 20th day, unless that's a Sunday, and I 21 am not counting it off. In which case, it would be on 22 Monday. 23 Then following that, it would be 10 days for 24 Mr. Carignan to file a reply brief to the Township. 25 Substantive brief, again, to be mailed on the 10th day 44 i 1 following that, unless it's a Sunday, in which case it 2 would be on Monday. And the n the Board, at the 3 conclusion of -- upon receip t of the reply brief from Mr. 4 Carignan, will have 45 days within which to make its 5 decision. Gentlemen, is tha t agreeable? Mr. Cook? 6 MR. COOK: Yes, sir. 7 CHAIRMAN PECHT: Mr. Carignan? 8 MR. CARIGNAN: It is. 9 Just for a poin t of clarification. I 10 believe you referred to the 20th day to respond. The 11 Township to respond to their brief. Just so there isn't 12 any confusion, 20 days from the 17th of April is, I 13 assume what you meant. 14 MR. SNELBAKER: Yes, sir. 15 MR. CARIGNAN: Okay. That is agreeable. 16 I'm sorry. 17 MR. SNELBAKER: That's agreeable? 18 MR. CARIGNAN: Yes. 19 MR. SNELBAKER: So in effect, the time for 20 the Board's decision will be approximately 40 days. Am I 21 right? No, 50 days. 60 day s. 30, 20 and 10 is 60. 22 Approximately. 23 MR. CARIGNAN: Right. And then 45 days 24 after that. 25 MR. SNELBAKER: The decision will be 45 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 7.2 23 24 25 rendered in 45 days following that. Okay. Now, unless there is something else to come before the Board before the hearing, we will close the hearing at this point and turn the meeting back to Mr. Pecht. CHAIRMAN PECHT: The record is closed and the hearing is closed. Is there a motion to close the hearing? MS. EAKIN: So moved. CHAIRMAN PECHT: The meeting is closed. (Whereupon, the meeting adjourned at 7:44 p.m.) 45 CERTIFICATE I hereby certify that the proceedings are contained fully and accurately in the notes taken by me on the above cause and that this is a correct transcript of the same. orraine K. Troutman, RPR Notary Public SILVER SPRING TOWNSHIP BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CUMBERLAND COUNTY Re. Gregg and Karen Carlgnan Curative Amendment Application CA 98-1 File No. CA 98-1 SUBPOENA TO PRODUCE DOCUMENTS OR THINGS FOR DISCOVERY PURSUANT TO RULE 4009.22 of Person or (Address) 411• Telephone:(717) 766-1762 Supreme Court ID # N/A Attorney For. N/A FEB APPLI CRt jl'S EXHIaIT You may deliver or mail legible copies of the documents or produce things requested by this subpoena, together with the certificate of compliance, to the party making this request at the address listed above. You have the right to seek in advance the reasonable cost of preparing the copies or producing the things sought. If you fail to produce the documents or things required by this subpoena within twenty (20) days after its service, the party serving this subpoena may seek a court order compelling you to comply with it. THIS SUBPOENA WAS ISSUED AT THE REQUEST OF THE FOLLOWING PERSON: Name: Gregg and Karen Carignan Address: 450 Gettysburg Pike Mechanicsburg, PA 17055-5170 -17-11 Within twenty (20) days after service of this subpoena, you are ordered by the court to produce the BY THE BOARD OF SUPE Z RS SIL ER RII TOWNSHIP: Chainna Ilver Spri ng Board of Supervisors Date: mc11r1. \? i 99 9 Seal of the Board (Eff. 7/97) GREGG CARIGNAN 450 Gettysburg Pike Mechanicsburg, PA 17055-5170 March 3,1999 March Wayne M. Pecht 6475 Carlisle Pike Mechanicsburg PA 17055 Re: Subpoenas requested February 24,1999 Dear Mr. Pecht: This letter is to inform you and the Township of Silver Spring that we have, to date, not received the requested Supeneas. The board has made the decision to proceed forth on March 10, 1999 with the hearing. The pictorial evidence is essential to our presentation. The delay in issuance will only delay the presentation and the ultimate conclusion of our case. As you know the issuance of a subpoena is a well-founded right within our legal system. Will the Township risk its' adjudication on a denial of the defendants' due process rights? Sincerely, Gregg R. Carignan cc: William S Cook, Township Manager Board of Supervisors Silver Spring Township Richard C. Snelbaker J APFL I CA 's SxH(6) T- H LLT 3.17'9 N1 > ? y J 4 4 r l i ?Y ?e .l lad { A: i Y. G q ?. s I