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HomeMy WebLinkAbout99-04230Y i Y ? . A 1 Y' 1 M ? ?F i< ',, Yfl ;t} 1 ? r 11 n ?r ?xS1 2 ? ? ? ryr Irk r ? t31 } l l n„ ? i t` it s. i . iw ;M IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF THE 39TH JUDICIAL MSTRICT OF PENNSYLVANIA - FRANKLIN COUNTY • ANDREA WENTZEL, : CIVIL ACTION - LAW Plaintiff 7Zo. 9 4• Yi3o Ci.,,a Tu._. VS. : F.R. 1999 - I Oy-13 MARK CATULLO, Defendant : PROTECTION FROM ABUSE TEMPORARY PROTECTION FROM ABUSE ORDgt T -v Z3 Defendant's Name: Mark Catullo c Sz Defendant's Date of Birth: September 18, 1960 CDm > v -0 i00 A Defendants Social Security Number: 177-504305 o j Names of all Protected Persons, including Plaintiff and minor chil n Carissa M. Catullo and Jennifer L. Catullo AND NOW, this day of 1999, upon consideration of the attached Petition for Protection from Abuse, the court hereby enters the following Temporary Order: [ x ] 1. Defendant shall not abuse, harass, stalk or threaten any of the above persons in any place where they might be found. [ ] 2. Defendant is evicted and excluded from the residence at (NONCONFIDENTIAL ADDRESS FROM WHICH DEFENDANT IS EXCLUDED) or an other permanent or temporary residence where Plaintiff may live. Plaintiff is granted exclusive possession of the residence. Defendant shall have no right or privilege to enter or be present on the premises. [ x ] 3. Except for such contact with the minor children as may be permitted under Paragraph 5 of this Order, Defendant is prohibited from having ANY CONTACT with plaintiff biwan????;?, i :f„MCTAGY at any location, including but not limited to any contact at PlaintilFs school, business, or place of employment. Defendant is specifically ordered to stay away from the following locations for the duration of this Order: [ x ] 4. Except for such contact with the minor children as may be permitted under Paragraph 5 of this Order, Defendant shall not contact Plaintiff by telephone or by any other means, including through third persons. - - •-• •--__._____. [ x ] 5.Pending the outcome of the final hearing in this matter, Plaintiff is awarded temporary custody of the following minor children. Until the final hearing, all contact between Defendant and the children shall be limited to the following: Liberal telephone calls initiated by the children to the Defendant at Defendant's expense. The local law enforcement agency in the jurisdiction where the children are located shall ensure that the children are placed in the care and cohtrol 'ofthe Plaintiff in accordance with the terms of this Order. [ ] 6. Defendant shall immediately relinquish the following weapons to the Sheriffs Office or a designated local law enforcement agency for delivery to the Sheriff's office: Defendant is prohibited from possessing, transferring or acquiring any other weapons for the duration of this order [ x ] 7. The following additional relief is granted: Plaintiff is authorized to initiate counseling for each of the children unilaterally. [ x ] 8.A certified copy of this Order shall be provided to the police department where Plaintiff resides and any other agency specified hereafter: at any location, including but not limited to any contact at Plaintiffs school, business, or place of employment. Defendant is specifically ordered to stay away from the following locations for the duration of this Order: [ x ] 4. Except for such contact with the minor children as may be permitted under Paragraph 5 of this Order, Defendant shall not contact Plaintiff by telephone or by any other means, including through third persons. ---- [ x ] 5. Pending the outcome of the final hearing in this matter, Plaintiff is awarded temporary custody of the following minor children. Until the final hearing, all contact between Defendant and the children shall be limited to the following: Liberal telephone calls initiated by the children to the Defendant at Defendant's expense. The local law enforcement agency in the jurisdiction where the children are located shall ensure that the children are placed in the care and control'ofthe Plaintiff in accordance with the terms of this Order. [ ] 6. Defendant shall immediately relinquish the following weapons to the Sheriffs Office or a designated local law enforcement agency for delivery to the Sheriff s office: Defendant is prohibited from possessing, transferring or acquiring any other weapons for the duration of this order. [ x ] 7. The following additional relief is granted: Plaintiff is authorized to initiate counseling for each of the children unilaterally. [ x ] 8.A certified copy of this Order shall be provided to the police department where Plaintiff resides and any other agency specified hereafter: [ ] 9. THIS ORDER SUPERSEDES [ ] ANY PRIOR PFA ORDER AND [ x ] ANY PRIOR ORDER RELATING TO CHILD CUSTODY. [ x ] 10. THIS ORDER APLIES IMMEDIATELY TO DEFENDANT AND SHALL REMAIN IN EFFECT UNTIL MODIFIED OR TERMINATED BY THIS COURT AFTER NOTICE AND HEARING. A HEARING HAS BEEN SCHEDULED TO ADDRESS THE ALLEGATIONS RAISED IN THE PETITION FOR PROTECITON FROM ABUSE AT /-oo O'CLOCK P M. ON THE 13 of DAY OF JULY 1999, IN COURTROOM # AT THE FRANKLIN COUNTY COURTHOUSE, CHAMBERSBURG, PENNSYLVANIA. NOTICE TO THE DEFENDANT Defendant is hereby notified that violation of the Order may result in arrest for indirect criminal contempt, which is punishable by a fine of up to $1,000.00 and/or up to six months in jail. 23 Pa.C.S. § 6114. Consent of the Plaintiff to Defendantrs retuni to the residence shall not invalidate this Order, which can only be changed or modified through the filing of appropriate court papers for that purpose. 23 Pa.C.S. § 6113. Defendant is fiather notified that violation of this Order may subject him/her to state charges and penalties under the Pennsylvania Crimes Code and to federal charges and penalties under the violence Against Women Act, 18 U.S.C. §§ 2261-2262. [ ] Plaintiff s request far a final protection order is denied. OR [ ] Plaintiffs request for a final protection order is granted. [ ] 1. Defendant shall not abuse stalk, harass, threaten the Plaintiff or any other protected person in any place where they might be found. [ ] 2. Defendant is completely evicted and excluded from the residence at [NONCONFIDENTIAL ADDRESS FROM WHICH DEFENDANT IS EXECLUDED] or any other residence where Plaintiff may live. Exclusive possession of the residence is granted to Plaintiff. Defendant shall have no right or privilege to enter or be present on the premises. [ ] On [insert date and time], Defendant may enter the residence to retrieve his/her clothing and other personal effects, provided that Defendant is in the company of a law enforcement officer when such retrieval is made. [ x ] 3. Except as provided in Paragraph 5 of this Order, Defendant is prohibited from having ANY CONTACT with the Plaintiff at any location, including but not limited to any contact at the Plaintiff `s school, business, or place of employment. Defendant is specifically ordered to stay away from the following locations for the duration of this Order: [ x ] 4.Except as provided in Paragraph 5 of this Order, Defendant shall not contact the Plaintiff by telephone or by any other means, including through third persons. [ x ] S.Custody of the minor children, CARISSA M. CATULLO and JENNIFER L. CATULLO shall be as follows: Plaintiff, Andrea Wentzel shall have primary physical custody of the children and Defendant shall have periods of partial physical custody on alternating weekends from Friday at 7:30 p.m. until Sunday at 7:30 p.m. During his periods of partial V NOTICE TO LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS This Order shall be enforced by the police who have jurisdiction over the plaintiffs residence OR any location where a violation of this order occurs OR where the defendant may be located. If defendant violates Paragraphs I through 6 of this Order, defendant may be arrested on the charge of Indirect Criminal Contempt. An arrest for violation of this Order may be made without wan-ant, based solely on probable cause, whether or not the violation is committed in the presence of law enforcement. Subsequent to an arrest, the law enforcement officer shall seize all weapons used or threatened to be used during the violation of this Order OR during prior incidents of avuse. Weapons must forthwith be delivered to the Sheriff's office of the County which issued this Order, which office shall maintain possession of the weapons until further Order of this Court, unless the weapon/s are evidence of a crime, in which case, they shall remain with the law enforcement agency whose officer made the arrest. Date: July 1999 BY THE COURT: g . W z , V c U IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF THE 39TH JUDICIAL DISTRICT OF PENNSYLVANIA-FRANKLIN COUNTY ANDREA WENTZEL, : CIVIL ACTION - LAW Plaintiff Vs. F.R. 1999 - 10 4l 3 MARK CATULLO, Defendant : PROTECTION FROM ABUSE In c z o p::0 9 PETITION FOR PROTECTION FROM ABUSE `? ao f y II t 10 1 C3 0 cm 1. Plaintiffs name is ANDREA WENTZEL. _ cr 2. I am filing this Petition on behalf of. [ j Myself and/or [ x j Ano er Persono a K If you checked "myself," please answer all questions referring to yourself as "Plaintiff." If you checked "another person," please answer all questions referring to that person as the "Plaintiff, and provide your address here, unless confidential: Plaintiffs address is confidential. If you checked "Another Person," indicate your relationship with Plaintiff- [ x ] parent of minor Plaintiff(s) [ ] adult household member [ ] applicant for appointment as guardian ad ]item of minor Plaintiff(s) [ j court appointed guardian of incompetent Plaintiff(s) 3. Name(s) of ALL Person(s), including Plaintiff and minor children, who seek protection from abuse: Carissa M. Catullo, Jennifer L. Catullo 4. [ x ] Plaintiffs address is confidential or [ ] Plaintiffs address is: Defendant is believed to live at the following address: 1993 Gregory Drive _ I:::jiLC(oo" Fly Monroeville, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania. Defendant's Social Security Number (if known) is: 177-50-4305 Defendant's date of birth is: September 18, 1960 Defendant's place of employment is: Corps of Engineers, Pittsburgh, PA [ ] Check here if Defendant is 17 years old or younger.- -- - 6. Indicate the relationship between Plaintiff and Defendant. [ ] Spouse (] Current or former sexual/intimate partner [ ] other relationship by blood or marriage: [ x ] Ex-spouse [ ] Parenttchild [ ] Persons who live or have lived like spouses ( x ] Parents of the same children [ ] Brother/Sister 7. Have Plaintiff and Defendant been involved in any of the following court actions? [ x ] Divorce [ x ] Custody [ x ] Support [ x ] Protection from Abuse If you have checked any of the above, briefly indicate when and where the case was filed and the court number, if known: Divorce, Custody, and Support, were filed in the 39th Judicial District in 1996 at F.R. 1996-143. The divorce action was finalized in June of 1999. A protection from Abuse petition was filed by plaintiff against the defendant in Cumberland County, a result of which was a Protection Order executed by the Court on March 17, 1997 and Docketed at 97- 1341. 8. Has the Defendant been involved in any criminal court action? Yes If you answered Yes, is the Defendant currently on probation? Unknown 9. Plaintiff and Defendant are the parents of the following minor children: Names Acs who reside at (list address unless confidential) Carissa M Catullo 13 1993 Gregory Drive, Monroeville, PA Jennifer L. Catullo 7 1993 Gregory Drive, Monroeville, PA 10. If Plaintiff and Defendant are parents of any minor children together, is there an existing court Order regarding their custody? Yes If you answered Yes, describe the terms of the Order (e.g., primary, shared, legal and/or physical custody): The parties share legal custody of their three children, Defendant enjoys primary physical custody, and the Plaintiff enjoys partial physical custody on alternating weekends, alternating holidays and for an extended period during the summer vacation. If you are now seeking an Order of child custody as part of this petition, list the following information: (a) Where has each child resided during the past five years? Child's Person(s) child Address, unless When Name lived with confidential Carissa M. Catullo Mother Confidential June 25, 1999 to present Father Monroeville, PA January 1998 to June 1999 Father Chambersburg, PA May 1996 to January 1998 Jennifer L. Catullo Mother Confidential June 25, 1999 to present Father Monroeville, PA January 1998 to June 1999 Father Chambersburg, PA May 1996 to January 1998 (b) List any other persons who are known to have or claim a right to custody of each child listed above. Name Address Basis of Claim NONE 11. The following other minor children presently live with Plaintiff Name A e s Plaintiffs relationship to children Carissa M. Catullo 13 Mother Jennifer L. Catullo 7 Mother 12. The facts of the most recent incident of abuse are as follows: Approximate Date: June 17, 1999 Approximate Time: 9:00 a.m. Place: Defendant's home, 1993 Gregory Drive, Monroeville, PA. Describe in detail .what happened, including any physical or sexual abuse, threats, injury, incidents of stalking, medical treatment sought, and/or calls to law enforcement: Defendant became outraged at Carissa Catullo as a result of a mess that she and a friend had made in the Defendant's home. While she was laying on a couch as a result of a sleep over party, the Defendant screamed at the child regarding the mess and proceeded to strike her twice with a closed fist on the top of her head. The blows were of such severity as to cause the child to begin to cry and to have a prolonged headache over the course of the day. 13. If the Defendant has committed prior acts of abuse against Plaintiff or the minor child, describe these prior incidents, including any threats, injuries, or incidents of stalking, and indicate approximately when such acts of abuse occurred: A. During the first week of June 1999, the Defendant's verbally threatened to hurt Carissa, chased her to her bedroom where she was forced to lock the door in an attempt to safeguard herself. The Defendant removed the doorknob from the door, forced the door open and proceeded to search the child's room. Upon finding some written work that he objected to, the Defendant hit the child repeatedly. B. In late May, 1999, the Defendant pushed Carissa into a wooden table then threw her toward the ground and into a glass top table which shattered under her causing Carissa to land on broken glass as well as a broken ceramic vase that had been sitting on the table. The Defendant then continued to hit the child as she was lying on the ground in the broken glass approximately 10 to 15 times about her arms and head He then proceeded to kick her once in her side. C. April 1999 the Defendant became enraged when Carissa tried to call her mother by telephone and proceeded to rip the cord out of the wall. D. The Defendant has threatened Carissa and Jennifer as a means of punishment to place their hand on a hot stove and bum them. E. The Defendant has repeatedly threatened to punish the children for external displays of public affection toward their mother during custody transfers. These threats include banishing the children to their room without food or drink until morning. On those occasions when the children have expressed their affection to their mother in the presence of the Defendant, he has carried out his threat and sent the children to bed without food or drink until the next morning. F. The Defendant has threatened to punish the children by physical force if they do not complete their household chores. G. On or about June 25, 1999, the Defendant forbid the children from taking their clothes and necessities to their Mother's home during a custody transfer. H. The Defendant has threatened the children to not disclose the physical and verbal abuse that they are subjected to. His threats include abandoning the children in an orphanage, or foster home by identifying them as "juvenile delinquents" to the authorities. -- 1. The Defendant regularly utilizes abusive names and verbal threats against the children and has called the children the following names; "little thief", "two faced fucking bitch", "devil child" and "fucking liar". J. The verbal and physical abuse that she was subjected to, caused Carissa Catullo to run away from home for a period of one week over the course of the proceeding school year. K. During the summer of 1997, when exercising a period of partial physical custody, the Plaintiff, Andrea Wentzel noticed a welt and bruise in the shape of a hand print on the thigh of her daughter Carissa. She has photographic evidence of this mark on Carissa and will provide copies of those in court in the upcoming hearing. L. The Defendant's continued verbal and physical abuse to the children has caused one of the children to suffer from ideation of suicide. 14. List the weapon (s) that Defendant has used or threatened to use against Plaintiff or the minor child: His hands. 15. Identify the police department of law enforcement agency in the area in which Plaintiff lives that should be provided with a copy of the protection order: Monroveville 16. There is an immediate and present danger of further abuse from the Defendant. CHECK THE FOLLOWING BOXES ONLY IF THEY APPLY TO YOUR CASE AND PROVIDE THE REQUESTED INFORMATION [ J Plaintiff is asking the court to evict and exclude the defendant from the following residence: [ ] owned by (list owners, if known): [ ] rented by (list all names, if known): [ ] Defendant owes a duty of support to Plaintiff and/or the minor children. [ ] Plaintiff has suffered out-of-pocket financial losses as a result of the abuse described above. Those losses are: FOR THE REASONS SET FORTH ABOVE, I REQUEST THAT THE COURT ENTER A TEMPORARY ORDER, and AFTER HEARING, A FINAL ORDER THAT WOULD DO THE FOLLOWING (CHECKALL FORMS OFRELIEFREQUESTED): [ x ] A. Restrain Defendant from abusing, threatening, harassing, or stalking Plaintiff and/or minor children in any place where Plaintiff may be found. [ ] B. Evict/exclude Defendant form Plaintiff's residence and prohibit Defendant form attempting to enter any temporary or permanent residence of the plaintiff. [ ] C. Require Defendant to provide Plaintiff and/or minor children with other suitable housing. [ x ] D. Award Plaintiff temporary custody of the minor children and place the following restrictions on contact between Defendant and children. [ x ] E. Prohibit Defendant from having any contact with Plaintiff and/or minor children, either in person, by telephone, or in writing, personally or through third persons, including but not limited to any contact at Plaintiffs school, business, or place of employment, except as the court may find necessary with respect to partial custody and /or visitation with the minor children. [ x ] F. Prohibit Defendant form having any contact with the Plaintiffs relatives and Plaintiffs children listed in this petition, except as the court may find necessary with respect to partial custody and/or visitation with the minor children. [ ] G. Order Defendant to temporarily turn over weapons to the Sheriff of this County and prohibit Defendant from transferring, acquiring possessing any such weapons for the duration of the Order. [ ] H. Order Defendant to pay temporary support for Plaintiff and/or the minor children, including medical support and [ ] payment of the rent or mortgage on the residence. [ x ] I. Direct Defendant to pay the costs of this action, including filing and service fees. [ x ] K. Order Defendant to pay Plaintiffs reasonable attorney's fees. [ x ] L. Order the following additional relief, not-listed above:. Authorize the Plaintiff to initiate a counseling program for the children [ x ] M. Grant such other relief as the court deems appropriate. [ x ] N. Order the police or other law enforcement agency to serve the Defendant with a copy of this Petition, any Order issued, and the Order for Hearing. The petitioner will inform the designated authority of any addresses, other than Defendant's residence, where Defendant can be served. Respectfully submitted, KAYER & BROWN . Dated: July 1, 1999 (717) 243-7922 Attorney for Petitioner VERIFICATION OF PLEADINGS The foregoing document is based upon information which has been gathered by my counsel and myself in the preparation of this action. The language of the document may, in part, be the language of my counsel and not my own. I have read the statements made in this document and to the extent that it is based upon information which I have given to my counsel, it is true and correct to the best of my knowledge, information and belief. To the extent that the contents of the statements are that of counsel, I have relied upon counsel in malting this Verification. I understand that false statements herein are made subject to the penalties of 18 PA. C.S. § 4904, relating to unsworn falsification to authorities. Date: 4 4y 9 , 1999 t e 4 h a d P A ?? M IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF THE 39TH JUDICIAL DISTRICT OF PENNSYLVANIA - FRANKLIN COUNTY • ANDREA WENTZEL, : CIVIL ACTION - LAW Plaintiff Tt.. 70. aR - c4.2 30 ( Zj VS. : F.R. 1999 :0493 MARK CATULLO, Defendant : PROTECTION FROM ABUSE FINAL ORDER OF COURT Defendant's Name: Mark Catullo Defendant's Date of Birth: September 18,1960 Defendant's Social Security Number: 177-50-4305 Names of all Protected Persons, including Plaintiff and minor children: Carissa M. Catullo and Jennifer L. Catullo AND NOW, this day of 1999, the court having jurisdiction over the parties and the subject-matter, it is ORDERED, ADJUDGED and DECREED as follows: 0 physical custody, Father shall have an adult individual in the home with hire. Custody transfers shall occur at the Bedford Turnpike Interchange. [ ] 6. Defendant shall immediately turn over to the Sheriff's Office, or to a local law enforcement agency for delivery to the Sheriff's Office, the following weapons used or threatened to be used by Defendant in an act of abuse against Plaintiff and/or the minor children. [ ] 7. Defendant is prohibited from possessing, transferring or acquiring any other weapons for the duration of this order. Any weapons delivered to the sheriff under Paragraph 67 of this Order or under Paragraph 6 of the Temporary Order shall not be returned until further order of Court. [ ] 8. The following additional relief is granted as authorized by § 6108 of the Act: [ ] 9. Defendant is directed to pay temporary support for as follows: This order for support shall remain in effect until a final support order is entered by this Court. However, this order shall lapse automatically if the Plaintiff does not file a complaint for support with the court within fifteen days of the date of this order. The amount of this temporary order does not necessarily reflect Defendant's correct support obligation, which shall be determined in accordance with the guidelines at the support hearing. Any adjustments in the final amount of support shall be credited, retroactive to this date, to the appropriate party. [x ] 10. The costs of this action are waived as to the Plaintiff and imposed on Defendant. [ x ] 11. Defendant shall pay $250.00 to the plaintiff as compensation for plaintiffs out- of-pocket losses, which are as follows: Attorney's fees associated with this petition. OR [ ] Plaintiff is granted to leave to present a petition, with appropriate notice to Defendant, to this Honorable Court requesting recovery of out-of-pocket losses. The petition shall include an exhibit itemizing all claimed out-of-pocket losses, copies of all bills and estimates of repair, and an order scheduling a hearing. No fee shall be required by the Prothonotary's office for the filing of this petition. [ x ] 12. BRADY INDICATOR. 1. [ x ] The Plaintiff or protected person(s) is a spouse, former spouse, a person who cohabitates or has cohabited with the Defendant, a parent of a common child, a child of that person, or a child of the Defendant. 2. [ x ] This order is being entered after a hearing of which the Defendant received actual notice and had an opportunity to be . heard: 3. [ x ] Paragraph i of this Order has been checked to restrain the defendant from harassing, stalking, or threatening Plaintiff or protected person(s). 4. [ x ] Defendant represents a credible threat to the physical safety of the Plaintiff or other protected person(s). OR [ ] The terms of this order prohibit Defendant from using, attempting to use, or threatening to use physical force against the Plaintiff or protected person that would reasonably be expected to cause bodily injury. [ x ] 13. THIS ORDER SUPERCEDES ( ) ANY PRIOR PFA ORDER AND ( ) ANY PRIOR ORDER RELATION TO CHILD CUSTODY. [ x ] 14. All provisions of this order shall expire in one year, on NOTICE TO THE DEFENDANT VIOLATION OF THIS ORDER MAY RESULT IN YOUR ARREST ON THE FINE OF UP TO $1,000.00 AND/FOR A AL CONTEMPT JAIL SENTENCE OF UP TO SIX MONTHSY 23 PA.C.S. § 6114. VIOLATION MAY ALSO SUBJECT YOU TO PROSECUTION AND CRIMINAL PENALTIES UNDER THE PENNSYLVANIA CROIEES CODE. THIS ORDER IS ENFORCEABLE IN ALL FIFTY (50) STATES, THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA, TRIBAL LANDS, U.S. TERRITORIES . AND THE COMMMONWEALTH OF PUERTO RICO UNDER THE 'VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN ACT, 18 U.S.C. § 2265. IF YOU TRAVEL OUTSIDE OF THE STATE AND INTENTIONALLY VIOLATE THIS ORDER, YOU MAY BE SUBJECT OT FEDERAL CRIMINAL PROCEEDINGS UNDER THAT ACT. 18 U.S.C. §§ 2261-2262. IF PARAGRAPH 12 OF THIS ORDER HAS BEEN CHECKED, YOU MAY BE SUBJECT TO FEDERAL PROSECUTION AND PENALTES UNDER THE "BRADY" PROVISIONS OF THE GUN CONTROL ACT, 18 U.S.C. § 922 (G), FOR POSSESSION, TRANSPORT OR RECEIPT OF FIREARMS OR AMMUNITION. NOTICE TO LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS The police who have jurisdiction over the plaintiff's residence OR any location where a violation of this order occurs OR where the defendant may be located, shall enforce this order. An arrest for violation of Paragraphs 1 through 7 of this order may be without warrant, based solely on probable cause, whether or not the violation is committed in the presence of the police. 23 Pa.C.S.§ 6113. Subsequent to an arrest, the police officer shall seize all weapons used or threatened to be used during the violation of the protection order or during prior incidents of abuse. The [INSERT THE APPROPRIATE NAME OR TITLE. ].shall maintain possession of the weapons until finther order of this Court. When the defendant is placed under arrest for violation of the order, the defendant shall be taken to the appropriate authority or authorities before whom defendant is to be arraigned. A "Complaint for Indirect Criminal Contempt" shall then be completed and signed by the police officer OR the plaintiff. Plaintiffs presence and signature are not required to file the complaint. If sufficient grounds for violation of this order are alleged, the defendant shall be arraigned, bond set and both parties given of the date of the hearing. BY THE COURT, Date: July , 1999 ?? ? ? Q ??