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HomeMy WebLinkAbout03-4988CONNIE MICKLEY, Appellant COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA, PENNSYLVANIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, BUREAU OF DRIVER LICENSING, Appellee : IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF : CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA : LICENSE SUSPENSION APPEAL APPEAL FROM SUSPENSION OF OPERATOR'S PRIVILEGE AND NOW comes the Appellant, Connie Mickley, by and through her attorney, Karl E. Rominger, Esquire, at the Law Offices of Rominger & Bayley Law Offices, respectfully avers the following: 1. Appellant resides at 982 Torway Road, Gardners, Pennsylvania, 17324. 2. Appellant received Notices dated August 5, 2003 and August 28, 2003, stating that as a result of her serving her one year suspension of her drivers license, pursuant to her conviction for DUI, her driving license is to be restored on an undetermined date, (her license was suspended as of September 4, 2002) so long as she complies with the Restoration Requirements Letter. A copy is attached hereto as Exhibit "A'. 3. In its pertinent parts, the letter states Defendant must make arrangements to have the Guardian Interlock installed at least thirty (30) days before her restoration date, and until such is done, she will be ineligible for restoration. 4. The letter also states that if he does not apply for or receive a Guardian Interlock License, she will receive an additional one (1) years license suspension. 5. The Pennsylvania Department of Transportation is acting under Chapter 70 of the Judicial Code including, Section 7003 and the related statutes, which were made law by Act 63 of 2000. 6. Appellant asserts that the Pennsylvania Department of Transportation is violating the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution and Article I, Section 26 of the Pennsylvania Constitution. 7. The actions of the Commonwealth, and the application of the statute also violates the Due Process Clause of the United States Constitution. 8. Appellant's constitutional challenges have been previously decided by this Court. In Commonwealth v. Mockaitis, 54 Pa. D.C. 4~h 115, (Court of Common Pleas, Cumberland County, 2001) Defendant's identical challenges were found to be meritorious, and it is the law of this County that enforcement of this act is unconstitutional. 9. PennDOT has no authority to impose an ignition interlock requirement in this case, as the Sentencing Order of October 1, 2002, did not impose one. 10. This case is identical to the question this Court most recently answered in Watterson v. DOT, Bureau of Driver Licensing, 816 A.2d 1225; 2003 Pa. Commw. LEXIS 51, February 7, 2003. 11. Since, according to current case ]aw, this matter is ripe for review, and it is filed at a time when departmental action, being the thirty (30) day requirement prior to restoration, has been taken, this Court has the power to act and review the Department's actions. 12. The enforcement of Act 63 of 2000 being unconstitutional in Cumberland County, Appellant requests that this Honorable Court direct the Department of Transportation issue her a license forthwith, without any special requirements. 13. Appellant requests that this directive be enforced pending the outcome of this Appeal. WHEREFORE, Defendant respectfully requests this Honorable Court find that the Department of Transportation has violated the Due Process Clause of the United States Constitution. Article I, Section 26 of the Pennsylvania Constitution, and the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment of the United States Constitution, and direct that the Department of Transportation issue a standard drivers license immediately, as the one (1) year suspension was from September 4, 2002, and that the Department of Transportation be enjoined from enforcing Act 63 of 2000 in Cumberland County. Date: Respectfully submitted, Karl E. Rominger, Esquire 155 South Hanover Street Carlisle, PA 17013 (717) 241-6070 Supreme Court ID # 81924 Attorney for Defendant CONNIE MICKLEY, Appellant COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA, PENNSYLVANIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, BUREAU OF DRIVER LICENSING, Appellee : IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF : CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA : NO: : LICENSE SUSPENSION APPEAL CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE I, Karl E. Rominger, Esquire, attorney for Defendant, do hereby certify that I this day served a copy of the Appeal from Suspension of Operator's Privilege upon the following by depositing same in the United States Mail, first class postage prepaid, at Carlisle, Pennsylvania, addressed as follows: George Kabusk, Esquire PA Department of Transportation, Office of Chief Counsel, Third Floor, Riverfront Office Center, Harrisburg, PA 17104-2516 Karl E. Rominger, Esquire Attorney for Defendant COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION BUREAU OF DRIVER LICENSING HARRISBURG, PA 17123 08/05/05 CONNIE B MICKLEY DRIVER'S LICENSE NUMBER= 1570q091 982 TORWAY ROAD BIRTH DATE= 06/50/52 GARDNERS PA 17524 Dear MS. MICKLEY = This is a RESTORATION REQUIREMENTS LETTER. It lists what you must do to restore your driving privilege. PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THIS LETTER DOES NOT AUTHORIZE YOU TO DRIVE. You will be notified by the Department of Transportation (PENNDOT) that your driving privilege has been restored, Only after that may you drive. The date when you are eligible to have your driving privilege restored has not been determined. To determine this ELIGIBILITY DATE, you must resolve any issues listed in this letter as DRIVER'S LICENSE RETURN, INDEFINITE SUSPENSION, INDEFINITE CANCEL, [NDEFINITE RECALL, and/or PRISON RELEASE REQUIREMENT. Please read the following information carefully and be sure to complete all requirements to have your driving privilege restored, Unless another address is indicated, return any documents and/or fees to the MAILING ADDRESS listed at the end of this letter, RESTORATION FEE -You must pay a 925.00 restoration fee to PENNDOT. Write your driver's license number (listed above) on the check or money order to ensure proper credit. Your check or money order should be made payable to PENNDOT. PRISON RELEASE REQUIREMENT (ACT 151) -The Court has sentenced you to serve a Prison term. Pursuant to Sect/on 1541 of the Vehicle Coder you will not receive credit for this suspension/revocation or any additional suspension/revocation until you serve your prison term. The Court must certify to PENNDOT that your prison term is compieted. PENNDOT recommends that you CONTACT YOUR PROBATION OFFICER and/or the Court to ensure that PENNDOT is properly notified. PROOF OF INSURANCE -Within 50 days of your ELIGIBILITY DATE, provide a copy of one of the following to PENNDOT to show that all motor vehicles currently LICENSE NO, = 15704091 registered ~n Pennsylvania in your name are insured: ~Insurance ID card ~Declaration page of your insurance policy ~Insurance Binder ~An application of insurance to the PA Auto Insurance Plan [f you do not own a motor vehicle currently registered in Pennsylvania, send a signed statement of th~s fact to PENNDOT which reads "! do not own any motor vehicles currently registered in Pennsylvanla". P/ease include your name~ address, driver's license number and date of birth on the statement, COURT ORDERED TREATMENT PROGRAM (ACT 122) -You must successfully complete the treatment program for alcohol or drug addict/on ordered by the Court of CUMBERLAND CTY, Court Number 335, Court Term 2002. The Court must certify to PENNDOT that you completed the treatment program. PENNDOT recommends that you CONTACT YOUR PROBATION OFFICER and/or the Court to ensure that PENNDDT ks properly notified. TERM SUSPENSION/REVOCATION -You have a ! YEAR:S) suspension/revocation that began (or will beg/n) on 09/04/02, Credit for servlng th~s suspenslon/revoca- tion began (or will begin) on 09/04/02 and will end on 09/04/03. The suspenalon/revocatlon resulted from a violation on 11/0~/01 of Section 3731, DRIVING UNDER INFLUENCE IGNZTION INTERLOCK You are required to have an approved Ignition Interlock SYstem /nstalled in all of your vehicle(s). Approximately 30 days before your ELIGIBILITY DATE~ you should contact one of the following approved vendors listed below to make arrangements to have the System installed. -Interlock Installation Services - 1-800-q52-17~9 -Consumer Safety Technology, Inc. 1-877-777-5020 -Nationa! Interleck~ Inc, 1o866-3~2-~98~ -Pennsylvania Interlock 1-866-718-8606 -Draeger Interlock~ Inc. -2-800~332-6858 -American InterZock Services -1-877-273-28~1 You will need to provide the vendor the following court information before the SYstem can be installed. COUNTY COURT NUMBER COURT TERM CUMBERLAND CTY 335 2002 Please retain a copy of this letter to assist you in this process. If You choose not to install the Ignition Interlock System in your LICENSE NO. : 15704091 vehicle[s), your driving privilege wil! remain suspended for an additional year. IGNITION INTERLOCK LICENSE -In order to have your driving pr/vilege restored you must apply for an Ign/tion Interlock license. An Ignit/on Interlock license entitles you to drive only veh/cles eauipped w/th an Ignition Interlock System. You may make applicat/on 50 days BEFORE your eligibility date. An application is enclosed for your convenience, This letter /dentifJed the requirements necessarv to restore your driv/ng pr/v1Zege and we are Zooking forward to work/rig with you to do this. Unless another address was ind/cated, return any documents and/or fees to the NAILING ADDRESS 1/sted below. Phone numbers are provided for your use. To ensure prompt customer service, please write your driver's license number, listed at the beginning of this letter, on all documents you send to PENNDOT. Thank you. NAILING ADDRESS: PENNDOT Bureau of Driver Licensing P.O. Box 6869~ Harrisburg~ PA 17106-8695 ZNFORHATZDN (7:00 AH to 9:00 PN) IN STATE Z-800-952-~600 OUT-OF-STATE 717-391-6190 TDD [N STATE 1-800-228-0676 TDD OUT-OF-STATE 717-391-6191 3 LICENSE NO. ~ 1570q091 IGNITION INTERLOCK LICENSE APPLICATION To apply for an Ignition Interlock license, please sign below and submit this page with a check or money order in the amount of 810.00 to the mailing address listed at the bottom of this letter. Your check or money order should be mode payable to PENNDOT. DRIVERfS LICENSE NUMBER - 15704091 CONNIE B NICKLEY 982 TORWAY ROAD GARDNERS PA 17324 SIGNATURE TELEPHQNE NO: If your address has changed~ please Print the correct address here: If you choose not to install an Ignition Interlock System, not have to apply for an Ignition Interlock license. MAILING ADDRESS: PENNDOT P.O. Box 68693 Harrisburg, PA 17106-8692 you do CONMONNEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA DEPARTflENT OF TRANSPORTATION BUREAU OF DRIVER LICENSING HARRISBURG, PA 17123 08/28/03 CONNIE B HICKLEY 982 TORWAY ROAD GARDNERS PA 17324 DRIVER'S LICENSE NUNSER= BIRTH DATE: 15704091 06/50/52 Dear HS. NICKLEY : This is a RESTORATION REQUIRENENTS LETTER. It lists what you must do to restore your dr/ving priv/legeo PLEASE BE ANARE THAT THIS LETTER DOES NOT AUTHORIZE YOU TO DRIVE. You w/ll be notif/ed by the Department of Transportation CPENNDOT) that your driving Privilege has been restored, Only after that may you drive. The date when you are elig/ble to have your dr/v/ng pr/v/lege restored has not been determ/ned. To determ/ne this ELIGIBILITY DATE, You must resolve any /ssues 1/sted /n th/s letter as DRIVER'S LICENSE RETURN, INDEFINITE SUSPENSION, INDEFINITE CANCEL, INDEFINITE RECALL, and/or PRISON RELEASE REQUIREHENT. Please read the fo/lowing /nformat/on carefully and be sure to complete all requ/rements to have your dr/v/ng pr/vilege restored. Unless another address /s /nd/cared, return any documents and/or fees to the HAILING ADDRESS l/sted at the end of this letter. RESTORATION FEE -You must pay a 425.00 restarat/on fee to PENNDOT. Write your dr/vet's I/cense number (I/sted above) on the check or money order to ensure proper cred/t. Your check or money order should be made payable to PENNDOT. PRISON RELEASE REQUIREHENT (ACT 151) -The Court has sentenced YOU to serve a pr/son term. Pursuant to Sect/on 1541 of the Veh/cle Code, you w/ll not receive cred/t for th/s suspens/on/revocat/on or any add/t/anal suspension/revocation unt/! you serve your pr/son term. The Court must certify to PENNDOT that your pr/son term is completed. PENNDOT recommends that you CONTACT YOUR PROBATION OFFICER and/or the Court to ensure that PENNDOT /s Properly not/f/ed. PROOF OF INSURANCE -W/th/n 30 days of your ELIGIBILITY DATE, prov/de a copy of one of the follow/rig to PENNDOT to show that all motor veh/cles currently LICENSE NO. : 15704091 registered in Pennsylvania in your name are insured= ~Insurance ID card ~Declaration page of your insurance policy ~Insurance Binder NAn application of insurance to the PA Auto Insurance Plan If you do not own a motor vehicle currently registered in Pennsylvania, send a signed statement of this fact to PENNDOT which reads "! do not own any motor vehicles currently registered in Pennsylvania"o Please include your name~ address, driver's license number and date of birth on the statement. COURT ORDERED TREATMENT PROGRAM (ACT 122) -You must successfully complete the treatment program for alcohol or drug addiction ordered by the Court of CUMBERLAND CTY, Court Number 355, Court Term 2002. The Court must certify to PENNDOT that you completed the treatment program. PENNDOT recommends that you CONTACT YOUR PROBATION OFFICER and/or the Court to ensure that PENNDOT is properly not~fied. TERN SUSPENSION/REVOCATION -You have a I YEAR(S) suspension/revocation that began (or will begin) on 09/0~/02. Credit for serving this suspension/revoca- tion began (or will begin) on 09/04/02 and will end on 09/04/03. The suspension/revocation resulted from a vlolation on [1/04/0! of Section 3731, DRIVING UNDER INFLUENCE IGNITION INTERLOCK You are required to have an approved Ignition Interlock System installed in all of your vehicle(s). Approximately 30 days before your ELIGIBILITY DATE~ you should contact one of the following approved vendors listed below to make arrangements to have the System installed. -Interlock Installation Services - 1-800-452-1739 -Consumer Safety Technology, Inc. 1-877-777-5020 -National Interlock~ Inc. 1-866-3~2-4984 -Pennsylvania Interlock 1-866-718-8606 -Draeger Interlock, Inc. -1-800-332-&858 -American Interlock Services -1-877-273-284! You will need to provide the vendor the following court information before the System can be installed. COUNTY COURT NUMBER COURT TERM CUMBERLAND CTY 335 2002 Please retain a copy of this letter to assist you in this process. If you choose not to install the Ignition Interlock System in your LICENSE NO. : 1570q091 IGNITION INTERLOCK LICENSE APPLICATION To apply for an Ignition Interlock license, please sign below and submit this page with a check or money order in the amount of }10.00 to the mailing address listed at the bottom of this letter. Your check or money order should be made payable to PENNDOT. DRIVER'S LICENSE NUMBER 15704091 CONNIE B MICKLEY 982 TORWAY ROAD GARDNERS PA 17324 SIGNATURE TELEPHONE NO: If your address has changed, please print the correct address here: If You choose not to install an Ignition Interlock System, not have to apPlY for an Ignition Interlock license. NAILING ADDRESS: PENNDOT P,O. Box 68693 Harrisburg, PA 17106-8693 you do CONNIE MICKLEY, Appellant COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA, PENNSYLVANIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, BUREAU OF DRIVER LICENSING, Appellee IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA NO: 03 LICENSE SUSPENSION APPEAL ORDER OF COURT AND NOW, this ~ay of ~2003, upon consideration of this APPEAL FROM SUSPENSION OF OPERATOR'S PRIVILEGE, it is Ordered that a hearing on the matter shall be held on the ~_~ day of ~ at~___~o'clock ~ m. in Courtroom No,. ~ of the Cumberland County Courthouse. A Supersedeas is granted pursuant to the Vehicle Code until such time that this Honorable Court resolves this appeal. Pending appeal the Department of Transportation is to restore Appellant's driving privileges and upon Appeilant's request issue Appellant a drivers license without the ignition interlock requirement. By the Conrt: Distribution: PA Department of Transportation, Office of Chief Counsel, Third Floor, Riverfront Office --'~enter, Harrisburg, PA 17104-2516 Rominger & Bayley Law Offices, 155 South Hanover Street, Carlisle, PA 17013 ~.Karl E. Rominger, Esquire OtV' CARLISLE FIRST Ct App, V. BOROUGH OF CAR1 ZONING HEARING ] App TO THE CUMBERL Please enter m Please accept t 2003. Dated: lURCH OF GOD: IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF : CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA Iiant : : CIVIL ACTION - LAW ._ .. ISLE : IOARD, : LAND USE APPEAL ~llee : No. 2003-4998 PRAECIPE ~ND COUNTY PROTHONOTARY: appearance on behalf of the Borough of Carlisle Zoning Hearing Board. filing of the Record pursuant to the Writ of Certiorari dated September 19, Respectfully submitted, By~~ -~ ~/ Siepl%n D~. Tiley, ]Esquire Attorney for Borough of Carlisle Zoning Hearing Board 5 South Hanover Street Carlisle, PA 17013 (717) 2430-5838 Supreme Court I.D.#32318 CARLISLE FIRST Al V. BOROUGH OF CAi ZONING HEARIN¢ A I hereby certil referenced matter upo addressed as follows: Date: 2HURCH OF GOD }ellant LISLE BOARD, ~ellee IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA CIVIL ACTION - LAW LAND USE APPEAL No. 2003-4998 CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE that on this date I served a tree and correct copy of the Record in the above the following by sending the same by first class mail, postage prepaid, Mr. Russell Bova 709 Yorkshire Drive Carlisle, PA 17013 James D. Hughes, Esquire SALZMANN, HUGHES & FISHMAN, PC Attorney for Appellant First Church of God 95 Alexander Spring Road Carlisle, PA 17013 StelShe~. ~ Tiley, ·Esquire. Assistant Cumb. Co. Solicitor 5 S. Hanover Street Carlisle, PA 17013 (717) 243-5838 Attorney I.D.#32318 IN THE COUR~ BOROUI 1. Writ of Cer 2. Carlisle Fin 3. Public Noti, 4. Proof of Pu 5. Irwin, McK 6. Transcript 7. Opinion an OF COMMON PLEAS OF CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA No. 03-4998 Civil Term '.ARLISLE FIRST CHURCH OF GOD VS. ]H OF CARLISLE ZONING HEARING BOARD RECORD INDEX iorari t Church of God, Notice of Appeal, June 17, 2003 :e, Zoning Hearing Board Meeting, July 9, 2003 ~lication for Public Notice, ZHB Meeting, July 9, 2003 aight & Hughes Letter to Zoning Hearing Board, July 8, 2003 f Proceedings, Zoning Hearing Board, Jutly 9, 2003 ~ Decision of Zoning Hearing Board, ZHB Case No. 021-03, July 9, 2003 Writ of Certiorari Carlisle First Church 705 Glendale Street Carlisle, Pa.17013 VS. Borough Of Carlisle Zoning Hearing Board 53 West South Street Carlisle, Pa.17013 COMMONWEALTH OF COUNTY OF Of God : NO. 03-4998 WRIT OF CERTIORARI ENNSYLVANIA) CUMBERLAND) SS. TO: We, being wi] between Carlisle Board pending before you, all things conce~nnir o~urCourt of Coum~Dn together with this to be done accordin WITNESS, the our said Court, at IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA CIVIL TE~4 , 2 42003 BOROUI. iH OF CA~! iSLE DEPT. OF PUBLIC WORKS ing for certain reasons, to have certified a certain action 'irst Church Of God vs Borouqh Of Cor~isle Zoninq Hearinq do c~and you that the record of the action aforesaid with g said action, shall be certified[ and sent to our judges of Pleas at Carlisle, within 20 days of the date hereof, Tit; so that we may further cause to be done that which ought to the laws ~nd Constitution of this Co~nonwealth. ~norable ~arlisle, Pa., the 19th day of .Sept~ber 2003 Prothonotary CARLISLE FIRST C Appellant V. BOROUGH OF CAR ZONING HEARING Appellee CARLISLE Fl Hughes, files this al Cumberland County, Planning Code, Act "Planning Code"), ant 1. This Honora Planning Code, as re of the Judicial Code, a 2. Appellant, Car place o fw orship 1 oc~ 17013 (herein "First C "the Property"). -IURCH OF GOD : LISLE BOARD, NOTICE OF APPEAL IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA Civil Action - Law Land Use Appeal RST CHURCH OF GOD, by and through its attorneys, Irwin, McKnight & ,peal from a decision of Borough of Carlisle Zoning Hearing Board, under authority of Section 1002-A of the Pennsylvania Municipalities )f July 31, 1968, P.L. 805, as amended, 53 P.S. l1002-A (herein the ~n support thereof, avers as follows: Court has jurisdiction in this appeal pursuant to §l1002-A of the ~cted, Act of December 21, 1988, RL. 1329, 53 P.S. §11002-A and §933 amended, 42 Pa. C.S.A. §933. sle First Church of God, is a Pennsylwafia not-for-profit church with its ted at 70 5 G1 endale Street, Carlisle, Cmnberland County, Pennsylvania hurch"), and owner of certain real propetx'y located at this location (herein 3. Appellee is ti Pennsylvania (herein pennsylvania 17013. 4. The Prope~yi 5. At the time t? permitted use in the 6. Due to a sub of worship are currenl 7. On or about Planning and Zonin Development Plan fol and parking area. 8. On or about IV that a special except submitted Final Land 9. First Church Board reviewed this 10. The Board by upheld the Zoning Ma Zoning Hearing Board of the Borough of Carlisle, Cumberland County, he "Board") which maintains offices att 53 West South Street, Carlisle, s zoned as part of an R-1 Low Density Residential District. at First Chumh constructed its existing place of worship, chumhes were a -1 Low Density Residential District. ~quent change 'in the Zoning Ordinance for the Borough of Carlisle, places ly permitted as a special exception under Borough's Zoning Ordinance. May 8, 2003, First Church filed with the Borough of Carlisle and its ; Codes Manager, Kenneth W. Woraack, a Preliminary/Final Land the Property for the purpose of adding aaa addition to its existing building ay 12, 2003, the Carlisle Planning and Zoning Codes Manager determined on application was necessary in order for the Borough to approve the )evelopment Plan for First Church's addi.tion project. >pealed the Zoning Manager's decision ~".o the Zoning Hearing Board, the atter at its public hearing on or about July 9, 2003. a unanimous decision of three Board members present at the hearing aager's determination that a special exception application was required. A copy of said decisio~ reference. 11. The action of exception is needed Land Development that: a. The for the expansion of change; for the expansion of a permitted use at the ti by the Board is attached as Exhibit "A" and incorporated herein by this he Borough of Cfirlisle Zoning Hearing Board in determining that a special a order for First Church to develop its property in accordance with its Final lan was arbitrary, capricious, an abuse of discretion and contrary to law in irlisle Zoning Ordinance does not require a special exception application use permitted by special exception when the use of the Property wil'l not The C rlisle Zoning Ordinance does not require a special exception application use permitted by special exception when the existing use as a church was a ne of its construction and the use of the Property will not change; c. The for the expansion of ~ cause potential conflk d. The C~ expansion of a use pel exception use and dim C~ u~lisle Zoning Ordinance does not requh'e a special exception application use permitted by special exception whan the proposed expansion will not ts with adjacent uses; rlisle Zoning Ordinance not require a special exception application for the mitted by special exception when the proposed expansion meets all special ensional requirements as set forth in the Carlisle Zoning Ordinance. 3 WHEREFOR Carlisle Borough Zo special exception ap addition to its existin Date: September 18, :~, Appellant respectfully requests this Honorable Court deem that the ~ing Hearing Board's determination is contrary to law a nd direct t hat a ~lication for expansion of the Property is not required for its proposed chumh facility. Respectfully submitted, DG,~ & HUGHES Esq. · No. 58884 60 ~Vest Pomfi'et Street C~lisle, Pennsylvania 17013 X,,~4717) 249-2353 Attorney fc,r Appellant, Carlisle First Church of God ~03 4 Zoning Hearing B~ Borough of Carlisl ZHB Case No. Date of Decision: . OP~ After prope in the Carlisle Boro Pennsylv. ania at 6:3 they being Jeffrey were Chair, Ronald In addition, Acting Solicitor, Rc ,ard 021-03 Jly 9, 2003 Re: First Church of God, Appellant NION AND DECISION OF ZONING HEARING BOARD BACKGROUND advertisement, the Board held a public hearing on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 Jgh Municipal Building located at 53 West South Street, Carlisle, p.m. Three of the five members of the Zoning Hearing Board were presentl Benjamin, Acting Chair, Jane R/gler, and, Jeffrey G. Bergsten. Absent ;imons, and member Henry Treffinger. present were Planning/Zoning/Codes Manager Kenneth W. Womack and bert G. Frey. Appellant al ~peals the determination made by the Zoning,Officer on May 12, 2003 that an application for speci al exception must be submitted to the Zoning Hearing Board for the Plans submitted by the Aprellant for the construction of an addition to Appellant's existing building. Present on bfhalf of the Appellant was James Hughes, Esquire. / Because the [narter befo, re the Board was solely on the legal issue of the propriety &the ' Planning/Zoning/Coges Officer s determination that a special exception application was necessary, no eviden :e was presented. However, it was stipulated by the Borough that the Appellant's use of ti: of Zoning Ordinance would currently be I Residential District. its records indicate t property was locate~ permitted use under ! The position Plans was that becau special exception hac there appeared to be ~ conditions by Zonin~ the Zoning I~Iearing Ii The Appellant takes I special exception in t buildings but no char should be required m. e property as a place of worship was a lawfully existing use and that because amendment since its original construction, Appellant's use of the property ,'rmitted as a special exception use in the Borough's R-I Low Density At the direction of the Zoning Hearing Boant, the Borough confirmed that at at the time the building permit for the church was issued in 1973, the in the Borough's R-1 Residential District. A place of worship was a he ordinance then in effect. of the Borough Planning/Zoning/Codes Manager on review of Appellant's ;e Appellant's use of the property is permitted as a special exception, but no been previously issued by the Zoning Hearing Board and further because tspects to Appellant's plans which might warrant the imposition of Hearing Board, an application for special exception should be submitted to oard for review and approval, as determined by the Zoning Hearing Board. he position that its use of the property is a lawfully existing use permitted by ~e R-1 District. Appellant asserts that its plans propose an expansion of ge in the use of the property and, therefore, rto special exception application :rely because of the expansion of the buildings. Russell Bova, a neighboring prop~ Manager assertin In the ca Commonwealth C whether a use whi~ a conditional use ,; conditional use. T to a conditional us, Township Board o Based on t place of w0rship is District, even thou1 Pennridge dealt wi: regarding conditiox Borough Council, The issue an application for ~ prior decision by th ffearing Board by a a special exception Section 25. allow a careful revi, The special excepti, each special excepti standards to consid~ impose reasonable in the Zoning Ordin exception, has neve Appellant's use oft through an expansic Hearing Board purs: The treatme Ordinance for the tr~ both instances, spec by right. In the case In the case of a use Hearing Board appl special exception a Ordinance for the right rather than a us those uses, which ar, exception approval I: circumveot the saf~ rty owner spoke in support of the determination by the Planning/Zoning/Codes that special exception review by the Zoning Hearing Board was appropriate. DISCUSSION of Pennridge Development Enterprises, Inc. v. Volovnic, 154 PA. · 609, 624A.2d 674 (1993) the Commonwealth Court considered the issue of h was a non-conforming use under a prior zoning Ordinance was converted to 'hen a subsequent zoning ordinance permitted that use in the district as a ~e Court concluded that the ordinance change converted a non-conforming use '. thereby reversing the lower court and upholding the determination by the 'Supervisors that a conditional use application was required. ~e Pennridge decision, we conclude that the Appellant's use of its property as a lawfully existing use permitted by special exception in the R-1 Zoning it was a perm/tted use in 1973 when the church was built. The fact that t a conditional use rather than a special exception use is immaterial. The law al uses and special exceptions is virtually identical. Sheetz v. Phoenixville PA Commonwealth Ct. ,804A.2d 113 (2002). efore the Board is whether the Appellant's expansion of its building requires >ecial exception before the Zoning Hearing Board s'nce there has been no e Zoning Hearing Board approving the special exception use. The Zoning unanimous decision of the three Board members present has determined that application is required. -177.A. clearly states that the purpose of the special exception process is "to :w of uses that have some potential of conflicts with adjacent uses or areas." ~n procedure coniemplates careful scrutiny by the Zoning Hearing Board of an use. The Borough Ordinance gives the Zoning Hearing Board specific r in granting a special exception and allows the Zoning Hearing Beard to onditions and safeguards in granting a special exception. Because of changes race over time, the Appellant's use, which is now perm/tted as a special been reviewed by the Zoning Hearing Board. Therefore, any change in the te property, whether that be to a different use or an expansion of the use n of the existing building requires special exception review by the Zoning rant to Section 255-177. ~t of the Appellant is consistent with the procedure contained in the Borough :atment of the expansion of a non-conforming use. See Article XXI 11. In al treatment is required for a n expansion in a use that is no longer permitted of a nonconforming use the Borough Ordinance sets specific requirements. emitted by special exception, the procedures for review by the Zoning · To allow the Appellant to expand its building without the requirement for ~roval, as suggested by the Appellant, is inconsistent with the Borough tson that it would treat Appellant's use of the property as a use permitted by : permitted by special exception· The Borough Ordinance clearly delineates permitted by right, and those uses, which are permitted subject to special t the Zoning Hearing Board. To ignore the difference in treatment wonld tards established in the special exception prncess. Anyone a~ County Court of C JeffrC)5[~genja~ Date J r - y- . gster grieved by this decision of the Board has the right to appeal to the Cumberland >mmon Pleas within 30 days frr~m_the day.9~f_tll~,d, ecision. ~ 2C~ Date .; I the undersign Appoeal was served b3 following: CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE ed hereby certify that on this 19th day of September, 2003, a copy of the Notice of first-class, postage prepaid United States mail in Carlisle, Pennsylvania upon the Borough of Carlisle Attn: Kenneth Womack 53 West South Street Carlisle, .PA 17013 Stephen D. Tiley, Esquire, Solicitor Zoning Hearing Board 5 South Hanover Street Carlisle, PA 17013 Russell Bova 709 Yorkshire Drive Carlisle, PA 17013 884 (717) 249-2353 Attorney for the Appellant, Carlisle First Church of God 2 Carlisle ~irst Church of God, Notice of Appeal June 17, 2003 ZONING HE. ARE BOROUGH OF C (I) (We) (HOME PHONE) decision be issued ~ An appeal o£a qG )ARI) ,~RLISLE 53 We~t South Street Carti~le PA 17013 NOTICE OF APPEAL: [~ A special excel Uon. [] A variance mia mg to: Which pena/m to ti Article .a~27 [] Area [] Frontage [] Yard [] Height [] Use [] Carlisle Borough Zoning Ordinance: Section .~s-/7 P~ph .am/cie Article Article Section. P~ph Section. Para=~aph Semon. Paragza~ ph The desc~ption oft Location of pro! Zoning District: Presen~ Use: Proposed Use: Ovraer of Prope: Relation.skip of. Attach the follov~ [] Statement of wi te prope,'w involved in this appeal is a~ follows: )wrier of r~orcL arty to & sales arty to a lease agr~ eement_ *.he Zoning Hem-lng Board should approve the request. [] Sketch plan Date Hem-q_ug Advertiser Fee .'~150 Fee P~ id uired for area and bulk variances. ,j t:~tee,~ [e?¢,tr~,,*nr,*I ATURE OF ?~iiiiONER SIG~NATURE OF AppealNumber ~/"O & Receipt No. Cost of Tramaipr ZONING I:nZ~ARI] BOROUGH OF C Applicaufs Name Property Location I attest th~ the b¢lo · record of property //r~_ ert-v Owners (G. ~ARD ~RLISLE ,3 West South Street Carlisle PA 17013 ZHB Case No. ,~,Z / - ~ ~ Con~nue on back represents a contplem a~d accurate list of all known ownem of rirhin twO hundred (200) feet radius of the lot lines of the prope.w7 th/s lame ?roperrv Address Owne,s Mailing ~_ddress PEG Inc. c/o Earl M. Bamhart 800 Belvedere Street Carlisle, PA 17013 Russell & Candace Bova 709 Yorkshire Drive Carlisle, PA~ 17013 Margaret L. McGinn 72l Yorkshire Drive Carlisle, PA 17013 James & Charlotte Ayre 708 Belvedere Street Carlisle, PA 17013 Philip & Elizabeth Lockhart 804 Stratford Drive Carlisle, PA 17013 First Church of God 705 Glendale Street Carlisle, PA 17013 Belvedere Associates 850 Walnut Bottom Road Carlisle, PA 17103 Thomas & Monica Frederick 1031 Rockledge Drive Carlisle, PA 17013 Walter H. Heckman, Jr. 725 Yorkshire Drive Carlisle, PA 17013 June B. Trinnaman 704 Belvedere Street Carlisle, PA 17013 Michael & Gwendolyn Minnix 3287 St. Andrews Drive Chambersburg, PA 17201 Steven Earl McKinley 10210 Epislon Road Richmond, VA 23235 Brian & Cynthia Kramer 717 Yorkshire Drive Carlisle, PA 17013 William F. Lighmer 712 Belvedere Street Carlisle, PA 17013 Robert & Sally Chant 700 Belvedere Street Carlisle, PA 17013 Charles & Mildred Brace 900 Stratford Drive Carlisle, PA 17013 3 Public Notice, Zoning Hearing Board Meetings July 9, 2003 NOTICE IS HEREB Wednesday, July 9, West South Street, will also be taken ar No. 016-03 (ContinL 57 South College St of the Carlisle Zonin accessory use or sp convert this single-f~ No. 018-03. A requ{ York Road (C-3 Ger Ordinance permits a specific requirement applicant proposes t adjacent lot and con No. 019-03. A requ~ for Less for a varian, Commercial District) one or more signs tc that the total area of one (1) linear foot of Applicant proposes 1 signage on a buildin, length. No. 020-03. A requE Street (R-2 Medium Ordinance requires District. The applica and one-half (4.5) fe No. 021-03. An app submitted by Dougla Street (R-1 Low Den Ordinance permits a The applicant propo,, eighty-four (10,484+ determined that spe( KENNETH W. WOM Zoning Officer NOTICE Y PROVIDED that the Carlisle Zoning Hearing Board will meet on 2003, at 6:30 p.m. in the Borough Hall of the Municipal Building, 53 ;arlisle, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, at which time testimony a complete hearing held on the following: tion). A request submitted by Dickinson College for a variance at 'eet (R-4 Town Center Residential District). Sections 255-36/37/38 Ordinance do not permit an office as a use permitted by right, ,~cial exception use in the R-4 District. The applicant proposes to .mily semi-detached dwelling into an office. ~st submitted by Mark E. Danowitz for a special exception at 170 eral Business District). Section 255-67 of the Carlisle Zoning uto sales as a special exception use in the C-3 District subject to identified in § 255-178A(7) of the Zoning Ordinance. The subdivide (consolidate) the current lot used for auto sales with an :luct auto sales on the newly created lot. ~st submitted by Bill Moore and Associates on behalf of Ross Dress :e at the Carlisle Commons Shopping Center (C-2 Shopping Center . Section 255-199B(2) of the Carlisle Zoning Ordinance permits be attached to or mounted on a single building elevation provided such sign or signs does not exceed one (1) square foot for each the building elevation upon which the sign or signs are erected. ) erect approximately two hundred ninety-one (291) square feet of elevation approximately one hundred forty-one (141) feet in st by Fred and Margaret Seltzer for a variance at 515 W. North 3ensity Residential District). Section 255-251 of the Carlisle Zoning five (5) feet side yard setback for principal buildings in the R-2 r~t proposed to construct an attached carport which extends four )t into the required side yard setback.. ,~al of a determination made by the Zoning Officer on May 12, 2003, s S. Brehm on behalf of the First Church of God at 705 Glendale sity Residential District). Section 255-17A of the Carlisle Zoning place of worship as a special exception use in the R-1 District. ;es to construct an approximately ten thousand four hundred square feet addition to the principal use. The Zoning Officer has ..iai exception approval is necessary for this addition. ~,CK 4 Proof of Pul }lication for Public Notice, ZHB Meeting, July 9, 2003 State of Pennsylvania, County of Cumberland. Lori Saylor, Classified Ad,~ of the County and State afore~ gen~'ral circulation in the Bor; 1881, since which date THE S or publication attached heret( issues of THE SENTINEL on t Copy of Notice of Public PROOF OF PUBLICATION ~=rtising Manager of THE SENTINEL, ~aid, being duly s~/orn, deposes and says that THE SENTINEL, a newspaper o ,ugh of Carlisle County and State aforesaid, was established December 13th, -:NTINEL has been regularly issued in said County, and that the pr ntad not ce is exactly the same as was printed and published in the regular editions and following dates, viz ~tion June 25 & July 2, 2003 that he is not interested in tter of the aforesaid notice or and that ail allegations in the to time, place and character are true. July 9, 2003 My commission expires: ;ubscribed before me this July ,2003. 9th Notary Public 5 Irv~in, McKnight, & Hughes Letter to Z6ning Hearing Board, July 8, 2003 JUL-06-2003 04:$0RI FI~I~UI, FL4 TELECOPY 243. ROBERT G. FREY, l FRIIY & TrL~y S SOUTH HANOvEI~ CARLISLe, PA 1701~ RE: CAI/LISLE ~ Dear Rob: A~ you are awa determination from thc special exception as a r~ dis~m~ons, ~ lcttor s any special exception By way of bat exeeptio~ at the request meatin$, your panner, .~ Church ~ n~ded to the same even though fl position, Mr. Womaek i Church, ss a non eonfo~ expansion, stmcmra! or from an adjacent !andre Sul~cquc~t to t of the neighbors aad fill development plaa as fil~ Church review the i~su{ Board. The Church wa: enactment of ally zOninl permitted uses by speci~ residential districts. On effectively re-designate, The ~ case concemin re Uoeer St. Clair Tow~ township otc~a~co pe~ I~KNI~HT & HUG,S LAW OFFICES ~71T24063~4 T-Z00 P.002/005 F-TH LAW OFIqCES [RWIN McKNIGHT & HUGHES July 8, 2003 441 ONLY :' STREET )NING HEARING BOARD / CARLISLE ~tRST CHURCH OF GOD 'e, our client, the Cadisle First C'hurch of God CChurch"), is seeMa$ a ."'arlislc Zoning Henrini Board as to whether the Chun:h is requized to apply tbr a suit of its consu'uctin$ an addition to its existing church facility. Per our previous mil outline the position of the C'm'lisle Fkst Church of God disputing the need for aruval ss determined by Ivh'. Kenneth W. WomaclL zoning officer. ~und, the Church had previously submlued an application for a special ~fthe Carlisle Borough staff earlier this sprin$. At that Zoning Hearing Board tcphcn D. Tile)', Esquire. as Solicitor, raised the question as to whether thc ~e applying for this special exception given that the use of the property remained e actual building rdructurc was being expanded. While I concurred with that adicated that the Borough Solicitor, Edward Schorpp, F_.aquire, had opined that the rainS use, rrtust obtain special exception approval prior to undertaking any otherwise. After much discussion with the Board and hea~ing humerus concerns reef, the Church decided to withdraw hs application. tis meeting, the Church revised its plans taking into aCCOunt some of the concerns d its land development plan..at the planning commission meeting on the land d, the cornm!~aion recommended apl~'oval of the plan bm recommended that the concerning whcther a special exception was needed with the Zoning Hearing , constructed and has operated solely as a church for many years prior to the ;ordinances, At the rime the subjec~ propen'y was zoned, place~ ofworship were I exception under Section § 25~-I 7 of the Borough Code in R-I Iow density ;e that ordinance becamc effective, all existing churches in R-I dis~rias were [ from heing non-conforming uses to permitted uSes by way of special exception. ~ this issue was de~ided by thc Pcunsylvama Supreme Court ca~c in the casa of.itl shin Oranee No. 203-~ 152 A.2d 76~, 77 l (1959), which ruled that since a aitted church use in a residential zone "sub~ect TO township approval," a church JUL-OS-ZOO3 04:51N FROI~.I RWlN, Robert ~ey, Esqu~ Re: Carlisle First Church July 8.2003 which e~sted in said re a penm'aed ~se after th~ Fi_~t Church ~t' God is ~ permJued by special ex~ More recently, Pm~-id2 Develonmen an ordinance was ehanj o~dinance was e~acted, lat~' decision, the Con,, akport which existed b~ one, ~m/th v. Zonint ~ As a pannitted with the Borough Zonir exactly the same as it w to the church eo~orms ~ th~ land development p~ already deemed zo be p~ By copy of this Church's positkm. In the event thn disa~ecment a~r you ] giw me a call. Thank you for ~ JDH:clc cc: Mr, Kenneth Wo~ Edwa~ Schmpp, ~IGHT & HOG,E; LAW OFFICES T-ZOO P.003/OM ~God len~al zone pr/or to the e~actment of-b,- zoning ordinance was to be co~sideted cgdiaance was passed and not a non-conforming tLse. Accordingly, the Carlisle Leealed to be a special exception currently because places of worship aw now ;epfion in an R-1 zone. he Peansylvania Contmonwcalth Court has continued this same line of reasonin$. Enterl~se~, In~, v. 9olo~ik 624 A.2d 674, (~. C~w. 1~93), held ~ wh~ ~ w ~ a~s ~ a ~io~l use, m ~n w~ e~st~ ~f~ ~y ~t ~m ~in8 a non~onfo~i.~ ~ to a ~ ~e, Citing P~n~ ~ a ~o~ Co~ ruled that wh~ a~ ~ all~cd by s~ial ~c~fion, ~ the o~cc ch~ w~t ~m ~ a n~f~i u~ lo a e~e B~d ofConewa~ To~s~, 713 A.2d 1210, 1213 (Pa. Commw. ise, the Church is simply seeking to expand iLS ~xisiing s~ucture in accordance O~e. h should not have to apply for a special excqxlon because its use is before, that of a place of worship. Tha'efore, as long as d~e s~mcmral addition vith the applicable zoning ia place at the time it i:s approved for conmuction via ~m, the~ is no need to apply for an additional special exception because it is rmitled by special exception by virtue of this use predating the existing zoning Letter, I am seadiag the same to Mr. Womack and Mr. Schorpp to clarify the you hav~ any questions concemhtg the above or any other reasons for ~ave had the opportunity to review the ~elevant case law, please do not hesitate to our cooperation in this matter. Very u'uly yours, ~W~IOHT & HUGH~$ hack (via facsimile 249k,~,~Ta.~ly) Esquire (via facsimile 243-1850 only) 6 Transcripl of Proceedings, Zoning Hearing Board July 9, 2003 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 2O 21 22 23 24 25 IN RE: Di Gl CARLISLE BOROUGH ZONING }{EARING BOARD CARLISLE, PENNSYLVANIA APPEAR_AN IR BY 21-03 mglas )d S. Brehm on behalf of the First Church of 2ES: TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS BEFORE: JEFFREY H. BENJAMIN, Chairperson TIMOTHY A. HOY, Member JANE RIGLER, Mew~er JEFFREY G. BERNSTEIN, Member ROBERT M. FREY, Solicitor KENNETH W. WOMACK, Zoning Officer DATE: July 9, 2003, 8:00 p.m. PLACE: Carlisle Borough Building 53 West South Street Carlisle, Pennsylvania MCKNIGHT & HUGHES JAMES D. HUGHES, ESQUIRE FOR - APPLICANT Deborah Ruggiero, Notary Public Registered Professional Reporter Reporting Services · 717-258-3657 · 717-258-0383fax courtreporters4u@aol, com 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 appeal Church present determir May, 20( Church zoning a speci approxin principa determir this add this ch~ area zor that is: the chu~ district 2 MR. BENJAMIN: This is number 021-03, an ubmitted by Douglas Brehm on behalf of the First f God. Have we followed the order of Mr. Womack ng an overvfew of the case? MR. WOMACK: Yes. This is an appeal of the ation made by the zoning officer on the 12th of 3 submitted by representatives of the First f God, 705 Glendale, Section 55117(a) of the rdinance in place limits the place of worship as 1 exception in the R-1 district. The applicant proposes to construct ately 10,000 square foot addition to the use there. And the zoning officer has made a .tion that a special exception is required for ition. You have the letter, I believe. MS. RIGLER: Mr. Womack, in what year was rch constructed? MR. WOMACK: I don't know. MS. RIGLER: Well, in what year was this ed? MR. HUGHES: I think we will be addressing ue, but I think it's probably fair to say that ch was there well before any zoning in the MS. RIGLER: You don't know what years? 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 yourself Irwin Mc the Carl losing may rec project applicat recommer withdra~ first o~ discussJ excepti¢ neighbo] motivat~ constru( that an( that we really, the chu~ MR. HUGHES: No, ma'ams. MR. BENJAMIN: Would you care to identify MR. H~GHES: My name is Jim Hughes with night & Hughes here in Carlisle and I represent isle Borough Church of God. Unfortunately, I'm y voice a little bit. As Mr. Womack indicated, and as some of you 11, we have been basically }previewing this before this board previously. We had an ion for special exception which had been ded by staff at that time. And we ended up ing that application for several reasons, the which is -- if you also recall, there was on as to whether or not we even needed special n. That was one of our first concerns. And the second concern was that some of the 's had come forth and indicated that they had some )ns for the plan that we were trying to And after that meeting, we took a look at certainly agreed with some of their assessments needed to take another look at the situation. So our issue before you tonight is whether or not ich needs to reapply for a special exception in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 light of we are e way of a after th redesign on in th plan. any chan that, we indicate the neic quite cc propert} back 33 developn Council. and rec~ develop~ was whet counsel indicat~ 4 the fact that our use is not changing, but that ~panding the facility. And one of the big questions -- maybe by little background. When we had come before, discussion, we went back and re-engineered and d the facility or the expansion that was going church, and we submitted the land development That was done in May of this year prior to es in the zoning ordinance. And when we did had changed -- the zoning ordinance at the time that there was a 10-foot setback. And one of bors, Mr. Vogel, who is here this evening, was ncerned that that was going to impact his so we reengineered it. We moved the building 1/2 feet. And that was part of the land ent plan which is currently before Borough We then went before tlhe Planning Commission ived a recommended approval on our land ent plan, but one of the big concerns they had her or not we needed a special exception. And Mr. Womack, acting on the advice of or of the Solicitor for Borough Council, d that we did need a special exception. 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 for that the zonJ your zor 213, it nonconf¢ excepti¢ nonconf, buildin, special were we excepti¢ Womack permitt. were we and get been the this boa gone th~ mention~ 1994 an, 5 And it was my understanding that the reason was because the church had been there prior to ng ordinance, that we were a nonconforming use. And a~' a result of that, if you look at ing ordinance, specially I think 255, Section says, subparagraph 3, any expansion of a rming use shall only occur as a special n. So the thinking there was, if we were a rming use, then regardless ,of whether the is 10 foot, we had to go tlhrough and get a exception. And that's where the issue came in -- a nonconforming use or were we a special n? When the zoning ordinance came in, Mr. ndicated the church is in an R-1 zone, we are d by special exception. The question became, grandfathered into this or did we need to come a separate special exception even though we have re for years? Through discussions with the Solicitor of rd as well as conversations with staff, we had ough -- you will see a copy of my letter which several cases, two of whiclh are most recent. 1998, a Commonwealth Court case which, while the 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 facts we agreed when yo exceptic the zoni prior tc when the excepti¢ use, thc this bo~ agree wJ that we So ther( puts us do from current[ you are excepti( written conditi( 6 re different, they did have some discussion and ith a previous Supreme Court case from 1959 that have a situation where you have a special n or a condf~ional use, which is then put into ng ordinance and the structure or the use existed the time of the zoning ordinance, that they, zoning ordinance is enacted, become a special n or conditional use. The 1994 case had to do with a conditional 1998 case had to do with special exception. It is my understanding that counsel for rd as well as counsel for Borough Council would th this summation and that these cases indicate ~re not a nonconforming use. In this case, we are ~ special exception. !ore, given the fact that the zoning ordinance in that zone, we now are a special exception. The next problem comes in, well, what do we there? And the zoning ordinance, which we .y have, as we just mentioned, does say that if a nonconforming use, you have to go get a special )n. But the zoning ordinance, the way it is today, does not mention what happens if you are a >hal use or a special exception if you predated 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 the zon~ we feel back th~ first bc doesn't followir light mc fact the require needed reason. side, wi took it if some~ conditi~ come ba~ approva] expand that th purpose: in use. 7 ng ordinance. I guess we have two particular reasons why ~nd the church feels that we don't need to go ~ugh this process to get a special exception, the ing that the ordinance, the zoning ordinance, require it. And if you look at all the caselaw g that, the zoning ordinance is to be read in a .st favorable to the applicant. And given the t the zoning ordinance doesn't address it or it, we didn't see a reason 'why we necessarily o go through the exercise. That really isn't the most important I think the one that struck us was the practical ~ich is, what is the implication if this board as its practice to require any kind of expansion, ,ne predated the ordinance and they were either a ~nal use or a special exception, do they need to ~k into this board and get special exception if their use didn't change? Certainly, if the church was going to nd they were going to put in a flea market so !y could raise money for whatever charitable they wanted to partake, that would be a change And certainly, I think there's no question that 1 2 . 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 we would for that operated additior suppose come in change or to they predated the zoning ordinance, and they were by either special exception or by conditional use, would hive to come in here and get approval under mainten~ to me o2 intent legal Borough disagre~ are a that. have to come back in and get a special exception use. In this case, it's stlll a church. It has as a church for many years, and that's what the is going to continue to be used for. And I hat if you look at someone that was going to ust for a building permit, if they were going to 'en the slightest of dimensions to their property e structure, and they were in a situation where there they nce. And it doesn't seem to make a lot of sense be very logical and we don't feel that was the f the ordinance, to require that to occur. RIGLER: Essentially, you are making a MS. a ~gument. MR. HUGHES: Right. MS. RIGLER: And as I understand it, the Solicitor disagrees with you, right? MR. HUGHES: Well, I don't know that he ~s. I guess he agrees that -- he agrees that we si~ecial exception. I think he would agree with MS. RIGLER: As I understand, the Borough 9 1 2 . 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 give Solicitc opinion. Most of your bos not ever asserts that before you can expand, we need to a special exception. That's the Borough 's position? MR. HU~HES: Initially, that was his I had talked to him in light of my letter. conversation has been with the Solicitor from MS. RIGLER: MR. HUGHES: MS. RIGLER: seen this? MR. HUGHES: This is dated yesterday. Right. Is it possible Mr. Schock may I am assuming he probably has. I faxed it to him. However, the conversations were more Solicitor of your board, not necessarily Borough with Council. MS. ~ us, not persuade our Solicitor, MR. HUGHES: MS. RIGLER: this evening, right? MR. MR. a legal argument, Solicitc~r his opinion. We had sent the letter. We had ongoing discussions with the Solicitor and showed them RIGLER: But essentially, you have to right? Correct. And we only saw this, WOMACK: Correct. HUGHES: And assuming that because it is that you probably would ask the 10 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 what cages we had to determine whetlher or not we were on the rlc t board. MS. RIGLER: But I think you agree with me that th~ borough is also a party to these matters. MR. HUGHES: We have a land development plan in front of the borough. MS. RIGLER: So wouldn't it be relevant for us to h~ the Borough Solicitor's opinion as well? MR. HUGHES: I don't necessarily think that's .he case. I think when we go before the Borough Council with our land development, if the Borough Council wants t( make that an issue, certainly, then we are going to have to deal with that issue at that time. The recommendation from the Planning Commiss~.on was, go to the Zoning Hearing Board and get their ti hts on the matter. That is, of course, a recomme]~dation and knowing that we had the land developl plan already in place. I guess our concern is the fact that we do need all of the dimensional requirements and other requirel of the zoning ordinance, which is why we submitt,~d the land development plan instead of coming back hei~e for a special exception when we've been there for yea~s. When we were up before this board before, 1 2 3 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 there we be here it. But positior when we had sai¢ withdra~ this se( before that we use. going matter require come address church doesn't are not underst~ feet fr~ 11 discussion about whether or not we needed to .nd why. And there were discussions surrounding nobody at that point had any definitive Mr. Schorp had already made his decision were here the last time. He, through Mr. Womack, ~ what you need to be doing after -- after we had 'n our application. As to what his position is ond, that I don't know. It's our position that in bringing this he board, we don't think there's much question are a special exception and not a nonconforming .e issue becomes, particularly, how is this board , deal with these matters? Are you going to say a ~f practice and course, yes, we are going to all special exceptions and conditional uses that lore our board, even though the ordinance doesn't it. And is that a very practical thing? And the lelieves that in both of those instances, it make a lot of sense. MS. RIGLER: Let me ask you this. If you required to have a special exception, then as I Lnd your argument, you could put that building 10 ~m the property line? MR. HUGHES: That would be correct, because 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 of the So if y, it coul¢ 10 feet5 do that us, of you was been to special officer zoning will no until w~ Hughes require before 12 oning. MS. RIGLER: Because that was the setback. u are not required to have a special exception, be right u~'against those residences' property, MR. HUGHES: It could be. We chose not to obviously, but -- MS. RIGLER: We don't have that in front of purse. 10 MR. HUGHES: MS. RIGLER: feet, correct? MR. HUGHES: No, we don't. And the last thing we saw from Correct. MR. appeal to us to not have to make that exception, is that right? MR. HUGHES: Right. MS. RIGLER: He's saying that the zoning BENJAMIN: Your approach so far has decision on as a matter of law, is incorrect because the .fficer has determined that the zoning officer issue the appropriate permits for this building decide to give a special exception. And Mr. saying, that's legally incorrect. He's not to get a special exception from this board he zoning officer can be compelled to issue 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 buildin¢ heard n fight it Hughes' solicit( memoran( nor has got Mr. meetin¢ the rest the way Solicit( are rai~ continu~ reasona~ rest of 13 permits. Is that an accurate statement? MR. HUGHES: That is accurate. MS. RIGLER: Right. And I guess we have thing from Mr. Womack on the law here, but the between Mr. Womack's legal opinion and Mr. legal opinion. We haven't heard from our own ,r. Mr. Womack certainly has not prepared a ~um of law on this issue for us -- MR. FREY: Nor the Borough Solicitor. MS. RIGLER: Nor has the Borough Solicitor, the Zoning Hearing Board's Solicitor. And we just Hughes' legal views right before tonight's MR. BENJAMIN: of your argument. of making that. MR. HUGHES: MR. ,r and Mr. ~ng. Then I propose that we hear I assume you are well along Correct. BENJAMIN: Then we, as a board, ask our Womack the kind of questions that you MS. RIGLER: Yes, but we may want to because Mr. Schorp hasn't weighed in on this. MR. BENJAMIN: We may, and that's a le component, but my proposal is that we hear the his argument to the case or proceed. And then 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 2O 21 22 23 24 25 we'll t~ going -- our opi~ haven't was a c! after ti chose t( excepti< excepti( are not special ordinan~ develop~ a reasol when yol situati~ with a should is befo built? 14 ~lk after you are finished. MR. HUGHES: That I think certainly is I was kind of going through what the law was and The big issue for us is the fact that we changed the use. The use is still a church. It ~urch before the zoning ordinance, it's a church ~e zoning ordinance, other than the fact they put churches under all one district as a special We feel by law that we are now a special ,n and there would be no reason for us, since we changing the use, to go through and get another exception. As long as we abide by all the zoning ~es mentioned, that's the reason we have a land lent process. As long as we do that, we don't see for it. It didn't seem to make a lot of sense zoning ordinance currently doesn't address the ~n, it doesn't require us to do it like it does [onconforming use, and therefore, we feel we :ontinue through the land development plan, which · e council. MS. RIGLER: In what year was the church 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 zoning 80s . the sure it ordinanc but fror enacted In fact convers that ha! exact t~ after t] the whol would a] that th~ 15 MR. HUGHES: '73. MS. RIGLER: And in wlhat year was the rdinance passed, Mr. Hughes? MR. HO~HES: I think it was in the early MS. RIGLER: We didn't have zoning until In what year was this part of town zoned? Your was built in '73. e in the borough? MR. HUGHES: When was the first zoning I don't know the exact date, my understanding of the zoning ordinance, after the church. MS. RIGLER: You don't know -- MR. HUGHES: I do not know the exact year. it was the repesentations are from Mr. Schorp and in my .tions with Mr. Frey and again with Mr. Womack, never been an issue as to whether or not the ming -- it was always understood that it was Le time -- because, obviously, that would change MS. RIGLER: Yes. MR. BENJAMIN: The laws that you have cited ~ply or not apply based on the sequence of events. MR. HUGHES: And you will see in the letter initial case, a 1959 Supreme Court case, dealt 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 with th, Commonw, certain was in that zc excepti, excepti, violati, the chu never w, And Itl fact, i permitt, the chul the chul 16 issue -- the other ones cite that case -- the alth Court does cite the Supreme Court case. But _y, the zoning was in effect -- MR. B~NJAMIN: You don't have the answers. MS. RIGLER: Well, if the zoning ordinance ~ffect before the church was built, okay, and in le, churches were only permitted by a special in and this church did not get a special MR. HUGHES: MS. RIGLER: Correct. -- then it's operating in )n of the zoning ordinance, right? MR. HUGHES: That could be the case. MS. RIGLER: For whatever reason, you know, ~ch is only permitted by a special exception. MR. HUGHES: To my kncwledge, the church ~nt through a special exception proceeding. MS. RIGLER: And that's what I understood. link the record is clear on that. But if, in was zoned in such a fashion that churches, while d, were only permitted by special exception and ~ch, you know, innocently, failed to get one, then ~ch currently is violating the MR. HUGHES: Correct. MS. RIGLER: That's why zoning ordinance. it's important to 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 know wh~ case, ti critical that til right a~ convers~ Tiley, again, was aft facts o] a decis in fact place, certain before that if 17 ~t year the zoning ordinance -- MR. HUGHES: And if that was, in fact, the len we would apply for special exception. MS. RfGLER: That's among the reasons why a fact is, in what year was the ordinance adopted. MR. WOMACK: And what was the ordinance at e. MS. RIGLER: That's right. MR. HUGHES: And again, I don't know that we stand here at this moment based upon my tions with Mr. Womack and -- well, actually, Mr. low Mr. Frey -- I believe that was discussed. And .t was a consensus between those parties that it MS. RIGLER: Right, but we don't have those the record in front of us. MR. HUGHES: If you, in fact, were to make on tonight and conditioned on the fact that if, it turned out there was a zoning ordinance in ~here was a special excepticn at that time, we can .y stipulate -- MS. RIGLER: ~s again. MR. HUGHES: just Then you have to come back And we could restipulate to to cover that. In rendering your 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 decisio~ should don't k the ass~ request answer? mind? to get be a fa that. Mr. Wom August? Wednesd~ 9th, I 18 if that's a concern -- MS. RIGLER: Well, I think you agree it a concern. MR. HUGHES: I certainly agree. And I just iow exactly -- everybody has been operating under [mption well after that point in time. MR. BENJAMIN: What would your position or be if we delayed a decision until we had that MR. HUGHES: Did you have any time frame in MR. BENJAMIN: I don't know what it takes in answer but -- MS. RIGLER: That's assuming that's going to ~t. MR. HUGHES: I don't have a problem with ~he thought would be that we are scheduled -- and ~ck gave me the date of the land development plan, MS. RIGLER: And when is our meeting in MR. WOMACK: Ly prior. MS. RIGLER: ~hink. MR. WOMACK: Your meeting would be the Our meeting would be like the Your meeting would be on the 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 2nd. because board's time pr] We don't with tin when we finishe¢ Womack'~ Your lo¢ making come fc already square fact, somethir are not 19 MS. RIGLER: the 1st is Friday. MR. WO~ACK: MR. HUGHES: Our meeting is not the 2nd Then it would be the 7th. Certainly, if that is the choice, we would not object to that. We want a or to us going over the land development plan. want to get into a time problem with the borough e issues. MR. BENJAMIN: We'll discuss our actions undertake it. I want to make sure you are with your appeal first. Do you have any more, Jane? MS. RIGLER: I may after I hear Mr. legal argument. MR. BENJAMIN: I just have one question. ic was -- I think your words were, if somebody is small change, we shouldn't have to repeatedly a special exception when a special exception has been approved. And I guess I look at a 10,484 oot piece as not a small change. I also assume that that is space that -- in u don't have that space today. You must be doing g different in that 10,484 square feet that you doing today or else you wouldn't need it. So 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 help me B, how already it. to be ti there w~ adopt ti as to w! you ope: smallesl consist~ excepti( before expansi special us to a feet is] be some Womack as asp where ii 2O understand why A, this is a small change and then his is going to be used to do stuff you are doing today but you don't have the space to do MR. HUGHES: If you understood my inference ~at we were making a small change, my comparison .s solely for the purpose of stating that if you ~ls procedure -- it's not in your report currently ~ere you are supposed to go in this situation. Is there going to be a difference as to how 'ate in a larger expansion versus even the of expansions? That you are going to stay nt with the approach that in all special ~ns and conditional uses, if they were there he ordinance and had come in and made any ,ns, then they need to go through getting a exception and conditional use. That was my only point. It wasn't comparing small expansion because certainly 10,000 square t. With regard to your point as to, there must :hange in use, in your ordinance -- and Mr. lentioned 255-17, which permits places of worship ~cial exception. It references Section 178-A-32 specifically mentions places of worship. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 subsectl the ord worship the fell so fortl clearly things. ordinan, contemP church. a churcl which al excepti, the que~ issues way you additio~ currentl area, tl They ha' 21 It has -- and you will see there -- four .ons that go through the type of uses that I think .nance has in mind when they' talk about places of Certainly, what we are doing by putting on .owship hall and classrooms for Sunday school and l, which can also be used fcr worship services, falls within at least the first three of those So I don' t think even under your own .~e, that we are changing any' use as to what was .ated by the church. It's still going to be a We are still going to be performing the uses as and not branching out outside of these things, e already listed here as a part of the special )n. MR. BENJAMIN: Again, we haven' t answered ~tion of expansion and the special exception )efore us, but are these being currently -- the are going to use this 10,000 square foot ~, are you currently doing those things? MR. HUGHES: Within the facility, there .y is fellowship going on. They have a kitchen ~ey have a luncheon, they are holding a luncheon. re Sunday school rooms where they are holding 22 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Sunday ~chool. It's just now they are going to have a larger ~pace to do the fellowship hall, a separate fellowship hall instead of converting a sanctuary into that or And the adequat~ simply continu one. pretty for a s for the might c~ have sa assume excepti~ assumptl somebod~ don't nl want to the hallway'~here the kitchen is. Sunday school room sits there, but they are not to meet their requirements. MR. BENJAMIN: So you saying that you are elocating current activities? MR. HUGHES: Correct. Expanding to with the use that has been in place from day MS. RIGLER: I think I'm missing something asic here. The reason you don't want to apply )ecial exception is because you are looking out rest of the world and all these other people who >me before us. It sounds like that is what you .d, is that right? And why don't you -- I would .t's okay for somebody to apply for a special >n even when she doesn't need it. MR. HUGHES: .ons. MS. RIGLER: That would be additional Right, that it's okay for to apply for a special exception even if you ed it. So I'm trying to figure out why you don't apply for a special exception. Yes, you run the 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 possibi[ are tell trying ready t is -- w~ excepti( episode Then it conside] the fac~ with. Could yc but the] who had concess2 him, he concern~ there it's go~ are con~ 23 ity that we will turn you down, right, but you lng us that you have got this great plan so I'm o figure out what is going on here. MR. H~GHES: Part of it is timing. We're build, we need to build. And so the time aspect were here, but the application for special n, which you will recall, was a three hour which, quite frankly, cost money to do that. 'ation. they had counsel here. There was that I think that it's not so much -- well, that we were a special exception there to begin MS. RIGLER: And where was it changed? go through the exercise? MR. HUGHES: Yes, initially, we had started, 'e -- to be quite blunt, there was one neighbor opposed it. I think we have tried to make ons to help the situation, but I think if you ask may say, I don't want it here. Again, those are Any time you go into a proceeding where potential of conditions which you can't meet, to draw things out, if you appeal. If there iderations, a lot of them are legal. 24 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 in the out, it MS. HUGHES: NO, MS. RfGLER: SO seems to be -- I mean, MS. RIGLER: But you didn't really ask for, ~lternative, for a special exception. we did not. in terms of drawing this for us no to have some of these b~sic answers like in what year was the zoning ordinanl!e passed. And to get this thing tonight causes us to d~'aw this out. MR. HUGHES: And if that's your decision, that's line. We want to make sure you are comfortable and you have all the facts. I think certainly that's a fact we can find out very quickly. I suggested before that if wanted a condition and that is, in fact, the case, ti ~n the issue is over, excepti~n, end of story. MR. BENJAMIN: that to]Light, tonight' we will apply for special And you are prepared to do is that correct? MR. HUGHES: Yes, we would do that. MR. BENJAMIN: You are prepared to do that MR. HUGHES: We would be prepared to stipulate that if Ms. Rigler's concern that the ordinance was the~'e at the time we built, and we special exception and we didn't get it, go h the process. are in there as a we are going to 25 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MS. RIGLER: They won't apply for a special excepti¢ tonight, though. I mean, this hasn't been advertised as that. MR. HUGHES: The only reason we are here tonight is we are going to offer testimony that this is an appeal from the determination -- again, procedurally, I think Mr. Womack and your Solicitsr felt this was the proper orum. MR. BENJAMIN: Do you have more you would like to add in the process of appeal to us to make a decision? Then let me ask our board if we have questions for Mr. Womack or -- MS. RIGLER: Well, I'd like to hear Mr. Womack' legal response if you can practice law without a license Mr. Womack. Go ahead. MR. WOMACK: Your letter says, with respect to the lanning Commission recommended approval of the plan -- recommended the church review the issue concerning whether a special exception was needed by the Zoning Board. And that wasn't discussed. Just for cla'ification, the commission recommended approval of the plal subject to the conditions that you either get special exception -- here tonight. MR. HUGHES: That was their recommendation. MR. WOMACK: I just wanted to clarify that. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 that ou CurrenJ facilil several are her is not floor. ever pl, used as legal v around raised. beginni] of dete~ special neither is givi! should 26 of to correct me if I'm incorrect. o have a recreational facility. MR. WOMACK: It's not going MR. BENJAMIN: Will they play basketball? MR. HUGHES: I don't know that you can rule We're not putting up permanent nets. could they play basketball in their current Yes, they probably could[. It has been made pretty clear -- and the gentlemen from the board from the church But the purpose to be a gym MR. HUGHES: That's accurate. ~y basketball on there? They could. a fellowship hall. Would they It's being MS. RIGLER: I just wondered what your _ew was. Do you agree with his legal analysis? MR. WOMACK: No, ma'am. I'm going to jump little bit because of some of the issues you Let me say, first of all, a disclaimer at the g that with respect to all variances or appeals ?minations about whether a variance is needed or exception is needed, you need to understand that the staff, the zoning officer or borough council Lg you direction. We take no position whatsoever ~ne be required. You just need to understand 27 1 2 3 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 that just sa MS. RIGLER: I don't understand what you MR. W~MACK: special exception is required. or not ainst it. whethez the No one I have no position if a The: borough is not for it MS. RIGLER: Oh, yes, but the question of it might be required -- MR. WOMACK: Some people seem to think that is the appeal. MR. RIGLER: Yes. MR. WOMACK: I have some remarks of my own. _s arguing that a place of worship and this particu_ar church is not a special exception use. That's the reason I don't know that it's relevan when it was built except insofar as some extrane, us fact that someone comes up here and says it was ill,~gal. The court case in my opinion -- and I have been -- Mr. Schorp, Mr. Hughes and myself are all in agreeme~lt that the court says when the ordinance changed, that mai:es this a special exception use, it is now a special exception use. That's kind of the end of story, as I se~ it. I guess maybe I need to ask the board -- I don't u]derstand your relevance. 28 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MS. RIGLER: Well, if it was built -- if the zoning ordinance was enacted in 1970 and it permitted churche in this district only as special exceptions and the chu ch was erected in special exception -- the '73 and they did not get a MR. WOMACK: that -- MS. RIGLER: I don't know anybody that is back in 1973. MR. WOMACK: Okay. MS. RIGLER: Right? MR. WOMACK: Yes, ma'am. MR. RIGLER: So I think it is relevant in what that know ab)ut it. MS. they di MR. offense be, gee year the zoning ordinance -- MR. BENJAMIN: Or the: other possibility is did get a special exception and we just don't RIGLER: No, he didn't. He assures us BENJAMIN: To his: knowledge. No but that doesn't tell us whether he did or not. MS. RIGLER: And my comment was going to if they are currently violating the ordinance, I think you would agree that cch currently is in violation of the zoning ue, because it failed to get a special exception 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 29 surely, we shouldn't permit them to expand on that. MR. WOMACK: No one has made a determination that they violated the ordinance, no one has sta2ed that, no'one has implied[ that. We can sit and argue and go back to when something was or when something wasn't and typically we don't azgue that here. We just talk about change and nonconf excepti special opinion excepti is that excepti the Fen And the special special Mr. Huc that pa MS. RIGLER: do you think that ~n? )rming use. We just said the criteria is a special ~n. We're willing to stipulate that it's a legal exception use. That simplifies that. But why, in your legal they still need a special MR. WOMACK: I'm going to tell you. MR. BENJAMIN: So your beginning assumption it is an okay -- whatever that means -- special Dm use. MR. WOMACK: We assume that sometime-- like ~icks case said -- whether it was nonconforming. law -- the ordinance changed that allowed a exception use -- that it becomes a permitted, exception use. I don't regard it -- I agree with ~es on that and I don't MR. HUGHES: That ~ticular case as well as is how we are reading the one after it. 3O 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 become dimensi don't s it is a affect~ standp~ situati, hearing excepti, this sp, because places. for Mr. it neve~ there ordinan~ to defi] qualifi~ criteri~ MR. WOMACK: Let me back up. If, having ~ special exception use, there was a nonconforming )hal variance that would become nonconforming, I ~e that as an issue here. So I think everybody is in agreement that permitted special exception use right now and the status. The issue is relevant from the ~nt of the fact that this gets into the awkward )n where there never was a special exception The board never approved this special n so there are no conditions, no plans upon which ~cial exception is based. ~ut that's not unusual that happens. That's probably happened lots of So that's it. Now, that argument -- my initial question Schorp was, is this a nonccnforming use? Because has been in seven years. And the answer was no. So we move forward. And I don't think any caselaw from this point on. But the e only allows approval of its special exception ~e if the proposed use will meet the ~ations for the specific use. And there are those in 255-178A. When the application came before us, and I 31 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 heard tt excepti¢ criteria getting think we criteria to comp] be used deal wit initial] within officer within or 10,0 on the neighnc approprJ excepti¢ think t~ be appr¢ application, I would argue that any special has to continue to meet all the specific of Section 255-177B-1, which is the general which we have a case did not work out special exception. And you read those criteria off, and I know what those are. But they are the general for special exception. It also says that it has y with the rest of the ordinance and that it must as the specific criteria in 255-178 or 179, which h permitted uses or accessory uses. When this application came forward, y, there was a plan on there that showed a use 0 feet of an adjacent property owner. And I questioned, in my judgement as zoning there was ample evidence tlhat that structure 0 feet, that property line ,of approximately 8,000 0 feet, could have a significant negative effect ure character of an existing residential hood, 255-177B5. And for that reason, I thought the ate thing -- the fact that there was no special n approval, there were no conditions of a plan, I e board was afraid that a new special exception ved -- I know a variance was approved -- let's 32 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 say the plan makes its approval based on that plan before, that if it were to be subsequently changed, I think ~u would argue it would not comply with the specification approval. So from that standpoint, I made the determination because I didn't fee]. that I could issue a buildin permit on a building that close to the residen's property line of that size and clearly in my judgement say that he complied with the general criteria for not adversely impacting the neighborhood. Now, that's not a specific argument, you heard tilat case before. You heard that whether or not that is or isn't, that's over. So I think that any special exception, any conditional use on the part of anyone, if any change would tend to violate any of those criteri,~, even though it does comply, make sure those criteri, comply. And again, it's my feeling as zoning officer that's what it should do. That's what should have been the impact residential to the in this case. And it's still my position that potentially could have a significant adverse n the desirable character of the existing neighborhood. MS. RIGLER: But it seems to me, that goes of whether a special exception should be 33 1 2 ~ 3 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 granted What you have just said goes to that issue, whether a special exception should be granted. What you have just said doesn't go to the issue o whether a special excepticn is needed in the That's my problem with what you have just first place. said. MR. WOMACK: Well, I respectfully disagree from standpoint that if someone lays something before me and look at all those criteria for special exception use, in, luding those general criteria, if whatever I see before causes one of those then would have to go -- MS. RIGLER: It criteria not to be met, sounds like what you are saying s, if the church had not cc,me before you -- let's assume didn't have anything to do with issuing a permit, let's assume that. That the church had built tl is addition 10 feet from the property line, it sounds ~o me like what you are saying is, you would have gone ou and cited the church, because it was violating the zon ng ordinance, because it had erected a building that wo'lld significantly affect the desirable character of a residential neighborhood. Is that what you are saying? didn't MR. WOMACK: Well, jet a permit. first of all, they 34 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 buil wouldn' MS. RIGLER: Well, forget having to get a permit. MR. WOMACK: Well, that's the reason I give them ~he permit is because I felt like -- MR. HUGHES: But take the other angle of that. uppose you knew that there was no neighbor complaint, would you have required a special exception neighbo adverse would y the you hav, is an e~ from says wh~t question. MR. WOMACK: It didn't specifically say I or don' from this board? MR. WOMACK: I didn't know that there was a complaint before I made this decision. MR. HUGHES: Suppose the neighbor and the impact stuff, suppose that didn't pop out, what determination have been? MR. WOMACK: I probably would have issued ~it if I thought there was no noncompliance. MR. HUGHES: And because the ordinance says a special exception use currently existing, this Dansion of a special exception use, no approval board required. MR. WOMACK: That's right. MS. RIGLER: The ordinance says that? It he just said? That's how you phrased your I don't think the ordinance says that. do that. To me, do I looked at this issue as being 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 in compl the asp. whether of the don't use, th, though, it span~ a specl~ have hi: special of thos, any of to go t that I special Christ I don't 35 .iance with the zoning ordinance, specifically, ~ct that doesn't need a special exception. I make judgements, I suppose, every day something -- it does not always err on the side ~onservatives. I could have I guess found it -- I ~e it as my function as zoning officer. MR. BENJAMIN: If it was a nonconforming ordinance is clear that it has to come in here. MR. WOMACK: That's correct. MR. BENJAMIN: Because it's a special use, the ordinance is silent? MR. WOMACK: It does not specifically say ~ special exception use, you have to come and get ~1 exception, that's true. MR. BENJAMIN: Then the process that you ~torically gone through is in the expansion of a exception use, you ask yourself the possibility five points -- whatever the number is -- and if hose are possible issues, that you require them the Zoning Hearing Board. MR. WOMACK: Yes, I would. I would say ave very limited experience with expansion of exception. The only other church I'm aware of is lethodist, which had to get a lot of variances. So know that I've got a lot of that here. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 came be we can come in also? That wa variant have t< excepti~ signifi~ let's s~ officer excepti( before special 36 MR. BENJAMIN: On that Grace question that lore the board -- and if anybody needs background, ~top my question, but my question was, did they here for a special exception use at that time MR. WOMACK: I don't believe they did. before my time. MR. BENJAMIN: I guess we granted the s because they did the building, but did they come for special exception. MR. BENJAMIN: They didn't. MS. RIGLER: They did or did not? MR. WOMACK: Did not. MS. RIGLER: They did not seek a special )n? MR. WOMACK: No. MR. BENJAMIN: So they added some '.ant square footage -- and just for analogy here, ,y it was 10,484 square feet -- and the zoning did not require them to have a special MR. WOMACK: That entire process was here he variance was. MR. BENJAMIN: Right~ but specific to the exception -- 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 2O 21 22 23 24 25 time, a one-dim that pr that I excepti present conditi being a is requ some hi. example could f frankly that cal first. after a[ a formal us, if okay wi 37 MR. WOMACK: Again, it happened before my ~d no, it did not. And I suppose if they need a ~nsional variance and they had come in here with )ject to the~Zoning Hearing Board, I don't know vould have specifically said[ they need a special )n at that time because the project would be ~d before the board, and at that time, the )n would have been right here. MR. BENJAMIN: But the issue that we are ~ked to decide on is whether a special exception .red or not, and I'm trying to understand at least ~tory of that. And Grace -- Grace is a great MR. WOMACK: I tried to look and see if I _nd any more examples and I couldn't, quite one way or the other, and Grace was the only one ~e up. MR. BENJAMIN: I want to hear our Solicitor I might want to hear him last MS. RIGLER: ~1 of the parties. MR. BENJAMIN: I process here -- we have ou would like to hear Mr. h that. guess because there isn't the question in front of Bova first, then I'm 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 15 16 17 18 19 2O 21 22 23 24 25 do that procedu until t discuss and it about n followil grocery hugh su no chan these b~ and ser' good ar! dimensi~ become it as a relatiol factor 38 Do you have any argument that we shouldn't MR. HUGHES: I have r~o objection to that e. I do ha~e some comments:. I'll reserve those he end. MR. BOVA: Russell Bova, B-o-v-a. Just a couple of thoughts related to the .on you were having a moment ~lso relates to the argument change in use. ago with Mr. Womack, that Mr. Hughes had To say that, I kept thinking of the g analogy of -- suppose you have a little corner store that decides that it wanted to become a )ermarket one day. On the one hand, you could argue there was e in use in a technical sense because both of sinesses are in the business of providing goods rices to clients. But I think you could make a ument that the quantitative change and the n, the size of that supermarket might very well qualitative change in the use. That's how I see neighbor of the church. We have had very good ~s, but size, dimensions themselves might be a o take into account. Secondly, if I'm understanding and 39 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 followi could b special assumin apply - excepti out in traffic forth. are evaluat evaluat, in the impact neighbc the imp, perhaps discuss, situati~ make he~ the dat~ lg the argument correctly, I believe an argument made by Mr. Hughes that the church already had a exception, and therefore, we think -- we are that and t~erefore, did not need to apply again. But again, if at one point the church would or any building would apply for a special and had to meet a certain set of criteria laid 2he building ordinance, including things like and safety and impact a neighborhood and so But then the dimensions of that structure ]g to change significantly -- then one's _on of that special exception and how long it's ~d, whether or not that project met those criteria [irst place would change as well, because the )f a 10,000 square foot addition on the ?hood is going to be qualitatively different than ~ct of the initial project. So on both counts, I would argue that this is the answer to the question that you just ~d with Mr. Womack that size does impact in both )ns. And finally, the one other comment I would ~e is to go back to the question of whether or not ~s are important here, when the church was built, 4O 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 when th zoning ordinance came into effect and so forth, if you those are relevant questions. It seems to me the burden to provide that informazion must faf~ on the church in this case because the ~dard ruling from the Borough Solicitor is that they mu~t have a special exception. The representatives of the church are appeali that ruling. And if they want to appeal any ruling, it seems to be incumbent upon them to provide you with th information that you need to grant them that appeal. Other than that, I can't add anything else on the leg 1 side. I don't know if that is helpful or not. The only other thing I can say to Mr. Hughes, too, because he was mentioning concessions they made, cl they made in the most recent plan. We had -- I h~td two formal conversations with representatives with th, church but nothing compared to, for example, what we saw on the prior page where if you had a list of conditi~ms, put out paper and everything formalized. So I'm not sure where I stand out there. And I worry more about ti -- going back to the original proposal of special exception, is that required? I have no idea what their i]~tention is. It is my belief that they do not intend o go back there, but -- MS. RIGLER: They certainly could. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 41 MR. BOLA: That's partly my concern. Again, can't really add much else. MR. BENJAMIN: Thank you. questio s? MS. RIGLER: No, not of Mr. Bova. Should we ask ~ob his legal opinion here. MR. FREY: I think Mr. Hughes, Mr. Schorp~ and I ?e in agreement that there are no cases dealing -- that we could find -- dealing with situations where the use was nonconforming under a prior ordinance and because of the ~nactment of a new ordinance:, it became either a special exception or a conditional use. And that upon that us,~, making either an expansion of the use, however you def_ne that, or expansion of structures would be require, or it's not required to file for a special excepti, n in that instance. There are cases, including the Penridge case, w]lich Mr. Schorp provided in which -- in that case, Did you have any t some additional hangars on the .he airport was a conditional use, They were required to file part where it in that an application it was -- bec became constru WaS -- instanc Ln airport, which was originally all nonconforming ~use zoning changes. A portion of the property conditional use. And the airport wished to 42 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 for what th what it saying. ~itional use. What is not clear from that case zoning ordinance said. And I think probably comes down to is what those numbers were even I think Mr. Hughes pointed it out, but there a?e provisions concerning an expansion of a nonconf)rming use and there are not, any specific provisi,)ns concerning the expansion of a special excepti,)n. The one thing that may provide a basis for requiril a special exception, if you want to consider that, i~ under 255, 177-D1 -- MS. RIGLER: Under procedure? MR. FREY: Under procedure for special exception uses. And it says, the zoning officer shall not it a permit under this chapter for a proposed special exception use until written approval of the Zoning [earing Board is obtained. This is already an existing special excepti ,n use. However, there has never been a Zoning Hearing Board hearing on that special exception. It was grandfathered or allowed in because of a change of the ordinance. first tJ officer So it could be argued that this is the that a permit has been requested of the zoning there has been no approval from the Zoning 10 1t 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 43 Hearin¢ Board. However, it says, shall not grant a permit under this chapter for a proposed special exception use. Certain[y, the chur~ did not propose this point whether the pro)osal for additional buildings makes that a propose, special exception use for which the Zoning Hearing Board need to provide approval. And that could be why Mr. Womack is referri~lg to you. I can't give you~ an answer one way or the oth,~r because the ordinance really isn't specific on that po.nt. I think that is probably why it should be before rou to answer that question, because there is no MR. BENJAMIN: Any questions? MS. RIGLER: I have some thoughts. tell me want to I'm wrong on this, please, to me s~mething -- we have uses as a right special exceptions and we have conditional If you but it seems and we have uses. excepti~ special matter yes, th says, nc And as I look at -- rather than say special ~n and conditional use, I'm going to just say, exception. It seems to me we have uses as a ,f right and then you have special exception. And special exceptions -- I see them as, y fit in pretty well. But the Borough Council netheless, you have to be careful, it's not a 44 1 2 3 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 15 16 17 18 19 2O 21 22 23 2~ 25 permitt,~d use, scrutin.ze. they have to come before you. You have to The Zoning Hearing Board has never scrutin_zed the church's use of this property. And thus, it seem~ to me, before we permit an. expansion either dimensi, nally or some other way, it seems to me the spirit )f what special exceptions are about -- and we all agree tlat this is permitted, it's only permitted because it's a ~pecial exception, not because it's a matter of right this area -- it seems to me appropriate that we scrutin~ ze this. That's kind of how I was thinking about this. MR. HUGHES: Well, says what you just 255.77 ~lmost excepti ,n process uses. t has some potential in your area. the purpose stated in said. The special is designed to allow a careful array of conflicts with adjacent uses MR. BENJAMIN: And I agree. I'm bothered by the church's previous experience. MS. RIGLER: Well, I certainly wasn't on the Zoning Board. The zoning officer wasn't the zoning fficer then. I mean, we have no -- it seems to me it be incumbent on Mr. Huglhes to offer similar or anal~ cases to us, and I don't think he did. MR. HUGHES: We weren't aware of that. 1 2 3 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 burden challen differ, differ~ long t~ became know. houses distric history you. not cre~ a certaJ particu] board i~ if we al would ii anybody 45 MS. RIGLER: That's right. But I think the is on you to make yourself aware if you are ~ing this decision. We didn't hear that. MR. WOMACK: It is analogous. It's in a it zoning district and if they had been in a It zoning district, it obviously was around for a ne, probably prior to the ordinances. But when it special exception plan, we: don't necessarily have no idea. MR. BENJAMIN: It's an R4. MR. WOMACK: It's an R4. And churches, worship, are a special exception use in an R4 as in this case, when you don't know the )rior to that if there were other things before MR. HUGHES: And there are those conditions ~ed by the applicant kind of things where it has n size area that is different than this ar area. MR. BENJAMIN: The question before the , is this special exception review required? And e up to that point in answering that question, I ke to proceed with that, MS. RIGLER: Well, unless there's I think technically, the 3 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 questic officez I would followi before us is, should the decision of be overturned? MR. HUGHES: If it would please like to make' a short -- (Mr. Hughes ng occurred:) MS. RIGLER: 46 the zoning the board, opened to the board wherein the If I may interrupt. You would agree with me, I assume, that the whole notion of a special Zoning can bec Board but es: the thil excepti, been. B how a s have th exception is premised on the notion that the ~earing Board is going to look at this before it in, correct? The whole notion is that the Zoning Hearing you will forgive me, since! this is the church -- ntially, the Zoning HearinG[ Board has to bless lg before you could build, right? MR. HUGHES: )n. MS. RIGLER: If we were asking for a special That's right. And you would agree w.th me that this has never been blessed by the Zoning [earing Board? MR. HUGHES: To our knowledge, it has not It we didn't necessarily need to. MS. RIGLER: I understand it. But that's ~ecial exception should operate, that you have to Zoning Hearing Board's approval before you could 1 do this 2 3 4 with me 5 church 6 whatsoe 7 decided 8 this 10 9 this wh 10 before 11 all the 12 it not 13 neighbo 14 15 have in 16 were th 17 do with 18 differe 19 20 21 You sai, 22 that th 23 we coul~ 24 and we 25 will at 47 MR. HUGHES: Right. MS. RIGLER: And I think you would agree if I understand this zoning district, if the ~ere not there -- if there were no church there ~er, but the church owned that property and it it wanted to build a church, which would include 000 feet -- not the church as it looks today, but ~le bigger thing, the church would have to come 2he Zoning Hearing Board and would have to satisfy criteria for a special exception, including that ~ignificantly, negatively affect the fhood. Correct? MR. HUGHES: Yes. The only difference we what you have described is the notion that we ~re beforehand and what is decided and what is to those groups. And that's where it puts us in a ~t category. MR. BENJAMIN: Any questions? MS. RIGLER: Well, let me ask you this. time was a big deal for you. It seems to me s is a very complicated legal issue. One thing ask for is, gee, write us a brief on this issue 1 have the Zoning Hearing Board's Solicitor, we him to write us a brief on this issue and we'll 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 say to this is then tb from nc public render say, this is zoning think t So I th whether can hay -- pay would g in term you hay. like? that th, to whet the fi] 48 Mr. Schorp, gee, if you want to write a brief on sue. Then we will have these three briefs. And Zoning Heating Board could come back a month We will have read these briefs, and in some ~ession, we will talk about what we have read and decision, because I think I've heard Mr. Frey hink I have heard you say, this is a difficult -- a legal question that certainly the Carlisle prdinance does not directly answer. And I think Mr. Frey had said he doesn't here is Pennsylvania law directly on point, okay? ink that's one option I think we could have. We could have no decision tonight on to overturn the zoning officer's decision, and we ~ everybody spend a lot of time and money writing lng the lawyers, writing briefs. I would hope you ~t, shall I say, the best this group can give you of its legal decision about the legal question presented. I mean, is this something you would MR. HUGHES: I guess my concern there is legal -- obviously, we got to a legal issue as er or not we were a special exception. That was ;t legal issue we had to get over, and it appears 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1 that ev 2 about t 3 4 an inte 5 really 6 apply. 7 record. 8 here. 9 can mak~ that, w~ obviousl right, in fact review then we to what if the 49 ~ryone is in agreement as to what the law says Once we got past that., then we got down to ?pretation o{ the ordinance of a factual issue ~s to whether the provisions in the ordinance Of course, we have done all this as a matter of I'm not sure what our brief -- as we have right MS. MR. the most MS. RIGLER: MR. HUGHES: RIGLER: HUGHES: The ordinance. Certainly, we could do that. Sure. And if you feel that the board informed decision, you require us to do certainly would comply. The timing issue -- I think your meeting is a week before, is that Womack? MR. WOMACK: MR. HUGHES: That's correct. It is not going to be -- if, you have all of this in advance, if you can t, give us a time line as to when you need it, can comply with that and get you something. And then you can decide at that meeting as ~ou want to do, so we are on schedule, you know, >ard decides that we need it. MS. RIGLER: But that's if you are back in 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1 front o 2 3 4 criteri 5 6 7 trying 8 9 avoid b 10 monetar 11 are cur but you that, b, there 1: you -- discus~ that w~ objectil because and aga~ the chu] how tha~ 5O us in September -- MR. HUGHES: Right. MS. RIGLER: -- trying to satisfy the of a speci~l exception. HUGHES: And that. causes delay. RIGLER: I thought, that's what you were MR. MS. avoid. MR. HUGHES: That's what we were trying to ~cause of where we are in the planning process costs. There are other considerations, where we ently in our market. MS. RIGLER: So you are willing to do this, are not anxious to do that. MR. HUGHES: No, I'm not anxious to do ~cause again, as you mentioned at the outset, an expense to that. Certainly I think all of ou know, it is a complicated situation. If the board said, ycu need more time to it with counsel, whatever, and had a time frame a little bit shorter, certainly I would have no n to that to where you render your decision, we have all heard an awful lot about this issue n. Just from a monetary standpoint representing · ch and going through the briefing, I'm not sure is going to assist you in your decision other 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1 than co 2 Womack. 3 4 it's de it. I factual ordinan relevan to whet excepti Hughes, is typi conditi criteri size, t adverse that th. Schorp~ whole 1, I look 51 ~sulting with Mr. Frey and/or Mr. Schorp and Mr. MR. BENJAMIN: Mr. Womack? MR. W~MACK: I would argue as well, say ~eted, that the issue would pretty much clarify ion't know if there's any law -- I'm not sure ky, it would match up if we took pages in the re and tried to find a relevant line here, a ~ line here. To me, the issue simply comes down her or not a change of this magnitude as a special )n still complies with all this criteria. I would argue, just to rebut briefly, Mr. that issue of meeting area and bulk requirements 2ally what is done on a provisional use. The other criteria for special exception )nal uses are designed to look at some general as well as specific criteria. And if you take a look at a thing of this me, it has a potential of having a significant impact on the neighborhood. That's a decision board would need to make. I don't know. Mr. id his legal research. I'm sure we will learn a )t more to clarify that issue. MR. BENJAMIN: Let me offer one thing. As )asr the question, the legal question, 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 I'm not questio versus going t you are an 80,0 as a ne an airp a box t percenl signif~ say, we could b, view, tl issue. even if of 5 pe~ Sunday because look pat excepti¢ differez 52 personally satisfied that you have answered the ns that the use is the same. Mr. Bova presented a corner grocery store ~upermarket ~ind of analogy, but it's -- and I'm say that this isn't as extreme as that, because talking about a 20,000 square foot thing versus ]0 square foot thing. But as I think of this, not [ghbor but as any outside observer, whether I'm in lane above or standing next to it, when I look at hat grows significantly -- I know it's a ~ge of the square footage, but 10,000 feet is a ~ant growth. I look at that box from the outside and .1, they are doing something different. Now, it just more people there, but from my point of at's something different. We had a previous case and traffic was an I mean, people are going to be involved. And it's just a number of people issue, that instead )le in a Sunday school class, it's 25 people in a ~hool class. To me, it takes the view of -- there is something different going on. So if I :t the legal issue unresolved to the special ,n use and say to myself, well, there's something t now -- 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Let's double setback Hearin¢ 53 MS. RIGLER: If I could interrupt, Jeff. aBsume I have a home in an R1 area and I decide to 2he size of my home. Assuming I meet all the requirements, I need no approval from the Zoning Board to do that. MR. BENJAMIN: changin triple a speci permitt since i it pred church use per' with a are ri( special Because you are not somethi~ MS. RIGLER: I could{ double it, I could t, I could quadruple it. MR. BENJAMIN: But that's not the case with ~1 exception. MS. RIGLER: But I think Jim Hughes' point ~hould treat the church as though it's a use ~d by right at this point. At this point in time, is permitted by special exception in this area, ted the zoning ordinance. We subsequently said, yes, you can have a lere. We should treat the church as though it's a aitted by right. To me, the difference: between my example home and this church is the notion that yes, you lt, the church is permitted there, but only by exception which -- it is nc, t permitted by right. And in essence -- typically, to do lg by special exception, it requires the approval 1 2 . 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 of the operati Board. quadrupl Zoning the use the use parlor somethil zoning be conJ zoning mean, I they are school is, I t exceptie differen legal is legal is 54 ~oning Hearing Board. And this operation, current )n has never been approved ky the Zoning Hearing That's the testimony before us. But I could .e my home w£~[hout ever appearing before the [earing Board. So I think that's not -- MR. HUGHES: So you are not interested in MS. RIGLER: Well, I would be interested in if, you know, they were going to open a disco here, I would say, we're no longer talking about g that is permitted as a ma~ter of right in that istrict or we may not be. I want to know more, 'zell me more so I can dent that that use is permiJzted by right in that istrict. So I think the use is important. I think we have heard no testimony -- you know, going to have more pot lucks, more Sunday MR. nk we ought because I or subject ues and hear the case. MS. RIGLER: Well, BENJAMIN: And what I was getting to to hear the case for special think the use is potentially to review, in my opinion. Skip the we have to decide the though, because that 'c. z~, the only question 55 6 7 8 9 10 1t 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1 2 3 4 5 before is. They have not filed an application for special exceptiDn. We have to decide whether, in fact, they must file an application for special exception. That's what Jim is askin~ us. Do we have to file or submit an applica2ion for a special exception? If the answer is no, as long as they have land approval, they can go ahead. is, tha circums ance. point, the cas answer MR. BENJAMIN: The testimony in front there is no specific law citing this of us MS. RIGLER: I think that's right. MR. BENJAMIN: If you just take that one the law part doesn't matter. MS. RIGLER: Well, of course, they may decide to file an application for special exception so in t ~rms of hearing the case, they are making no case to hear MR. BENJAMIN: Okay by me. I have nothing to do w~th that. that ri¢ MR. BERNSTEIN: You have made your case, is MR. HUGHES: Again, I think without beating ~hen the question before us is, do we want to hear or not? And I think what I've heard so far, my o that is yes, if we can get to that point, then 1 a dead 2 what we 3 that yo 4 excepti 5 we're t 6 said, b 7 are the 8 ordinan, 9 outline, 10 we are 11 were, t 12 That's 13 that le 14 are rig] 15 going t¢ 16 it or w~ 17 18 applicar 19 cross re 20 shorter 21 22 making 23 where w 24 think i~ 25 56 Norse, I think the example in terms of exactly are saying legally except for the factual things mentioned, which would be part of the special n, if we go~'to that point -- we're saying that here as a special exception by law and Ms. Rigler right, it's the same thing!, in essence that we e. And because we didn't comply with our zoning ~e, you are -- and don't change our use, which is t, whatever uses we are supposed to have in here, lot changing the nature of what some of those uses len we have the right to put up a building. ~ur position, and therefore, we need to come to [al determination where you say either yes, you ~t, or no, we don't think you are right. We are make our determination and then we either appeal file for special exception. MR. BENJAMIN: We, the board, and you, the ~, what we have -- we're going to end up in some ad and make our decision. I guess I see a road. MR. HUGHES: Well, I am in favor of you decision. Certainly, I think you understand are coming from, 's about law. I think Mr. what our position is, why we Frey gave you -- you know, I 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 think the sp necessa say, he this. the ord decisio just ha underst, there's the cha: says we changin then -- the pro~ to add? positior special general right is 57 agrees with us on the law,. and he even went to ific section of the ordinance. We wouldn't rily go that far because, you know, we'd stop and ~e's what th~ law is, and therefore, we can do 3ut that's why again we came before you, because [nance didn't address it. Obviously, it's in your purview to make the whether we need one or whether we don't. You re to decide. I just wanted~ to make sure you )od it. We're arguing the legal side. That's why no testimony, per say. We're getting right to ~e on the legal issues. We're here as a special exception, the law re a special exception. And since we're not our use, as you identified in our ordinance, ~es, then we just have to make sure we meet all .sions of the ordinance to make sure. MR. BENJAMIN: Does anybody have anything MR. here. I exception, HUGHES: I just want to clarify the thought I heard you say that if it's a then it's a permitted use. MR. WOMACK: I want to clarify. In a vernacular, that's true. But a use permitted by different from a special exception, those are 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1 2 3 differ genera] excepti Board ai it then excepti~ then? it's tee then? separate essentia permitt( somethi~ 58 nt. MS. RIGLER: And how are they different? MR. WOMACK: They are required to meet and special criteria. MS. RIGLER: But if, in fact, the special )n criteria are satisfied, and the Zoning Hearing )proves the special exception, is it fair to call a permitted use? MR. WOMACK: No, ma'am, it's a special ~n use, it remains a special exception. MS. RIGLER: It doesn't make a difference MR. WOMACK: Yes, and I argue that it does. MR. BENJAMIN: It may feel the same, but hnically different is what you are saying? MR. WOMACK: Right. MS. RIGLER: And it's different how so MR. WOMACK: In that those three uses are ly, use is else. MR. MS. RIGLER: Yes, I understand that, but it's entitled to all the benefits that a entitled to unless the ordinance says WOMACK: That's correct. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1t 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 clarify when excepti, must me, special doubt a] criteri view. propose determir whicheve special place bu 59 MS. RIGLER: I got it. MR. WOMACK: And the argument is -- and to it so that we are really crystal clear, is that bring a change in like that, that is a special n use, the zoning officer's position is that it ~t all the general and special criteria listed for exception. And in my opinion, there was some ~out whether this expansion would meet the especially of 255.170. MS. RIGLER: I think I understand your MR. BENJAMIN: May I ask the board to direction. MS. RIGLER: Will you entertain a motion? MR. BENJAMIN: Yes. MS. RIGLER: I move that we uphold the ation of the hearing officer, deny the appeal -- r way you phrase it. MR. BERNSTEIN: I'll second that. MR. BENJAMIN: Discussion. MR. BERNSTEIN: If there's doubt this is a exception, it is subject to our scrutiny. MS. RIGLER: Jeff and I come out the same for different reasons. A~Iain, I think this is said earlier, I think a special exception 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 contem initia that sc distin( grandf~ somethi with no already use, yo which y, Zoning this is treated is not with ho with, sc make pr~ there's 6O lates scrutiny by the Zoning Hearing Board ly. And this is an entity which has never had rutiny. Mr. B~NJAMIN: Then I guess we're making a tion between those properties that are ~hered in versus those that -- MS. RIGLER: Well, not necessarily. It's ~g -- well, we make a guess. And we certainly do lconforming uses. The zoning ordinance clearly does that. I mean, if you have a nonconforming are permitted to continue that. You may not violate the zoning ordinance, are not permitted to expand it unless you get tearing Board approval. So yes, it seems to me consistent with how nonconforming uses are under the ordinance. And I understand that, we have agreed this nonconforming use, but it's certainly consistent preordinance circumstances and uses are dealt for different reasons. MR. BERNSTEIN: I agree that we shouldn't ffeterminations. MR. FREY: The only determination is that the potential for that. MR. BENJAMIN: I don'~2 even know that. I 1 2 3 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 just ha those t officer require, discuss upheld you are apply f¢ for you~ 61 ;en't heard enough to know whether or not any of lings are -- I have a motion to uphold the zoning 's decision that a special exception review is I have a second to that. Any further on? All those in favor of the motion, say aye. (Vote taken.) MR. BENJAMIN: Let the record show that we .he zoning officer's determination. I assume that then faced with the decision and may or may not ,r the special exception. MR. HUGHES: That is correct. Thank you time and attention. (The hearing was concluded at 9:31 1 2 3 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 62 and evi, notes t, copy is I hereby certify that the proceedings [ence are contained fully and accurately in the ~ken by me on the within proceedings and that this a correct transcript of same. eo Twp., C4.~rland Goun(y I' ~ ecr~ ~r. 10, 2007 ! Deborah Ruggiero~,~f/[ Registered Profes~i~nal Reporter Notary Public Opinion Z] 7 and Decision of Zoning Hearing Board tB Case No. 021-03, July 9, 2003 Zoning Hearing B Borough of Carli ZHB Case No. Date of Decision: OP After prope in the Carlisle Boro Pennsyl,(ania at 6:3 they being Jeffrey were Chair, Ronald In addition, Acting Solicitor, Ro Appellant at application for speci subm/tted by the A[ Present on ~ Because the Planning/Zoning/Coz necessary, no evidem Appellant's use of th, of Zoning Ordinance would currently be pi Residential District. its records indicate th property was located permitted use under ti The position ~ Plans was that becaus special exception had there appeared to be a conditions by Zoning the Zoning Hearing B~ The Appellant takes tlr special exception in th buildings but no chang should be required me: ~ard 021-03 tly 9, 2003 Re: First Church of God, Appellant NION AND DECISION OF ZONING HEARING BOARD BACKGROUND r advertisement, the Board held a public heating on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 ~gh Municipal Building located at 53 West South Street, Carlisle, ) p.m. Three of the five members of the Zoning Hearing Board were presentl ~,Benjamin, Acting Chair, Jane R/gler, and, Jeffrey G. Bergsten. Absent simons, and member Henry Treffinger. 3resent were Planning/Zoning/Codes Manager Kenneth W. Womack and >eft G. Frey. peals the determination made by the Zoning Officer on May 12, 2003 that an tl exception must be submitted to the Zoning Hearing Board for the Plans ~ellant for the construction of an addition to Appellant's existing building. :half of the Appellant was James Hughes, Esquke. hatter before the Board was solely on the legal issue of the propriety of the es Officer's determination that a special exception application was :e was presented. However, it was stipulated by the Borough that the '. property as a place of worship was a lawfully existing use and that because amendment since its original construction, Appellant's use &the property rmitted as a special exception use in the Borough's R-1 Low Density It the direction of the Zoning Hearing Board, the Borough confirmed that tt at the time the building permit for the church was issued in 1973, the n the Borough's R-I Residential District. A place of worsb, ip was a ordinance then in effect. the Borough Planning/Zoning/Codes Manager on review of Appellant's : Appellant's use of the property is permitted as a special exception, but no >een previously issued by the Zoning Hearing Board and further because ~pects to Appellant's plans which might warrant the impos tion of tearing Board, an application for special exception should be submitted to ,ard for review and approval, as determined by the Zoning Hearing Board. e position that its use of the property is a lawfully existing use permitted by ~ R-I District. Appellant asserts that its plans propose an expansion of e in the use of the property and, therefore, nc special exception application ely because of the expansion of the buildings. Russell Bova, a EXHIBIT "A" neighboring pro[ Manager assertir, In the Commonwealth C whether a use whi a conditional use conditional use. T to a conditional us Township Board o Based on t place &wOrship is District, even thoul Pennridge dealt regarding conditior Borough Council, The issue an application for prior decision by Hearing Board by a a special exception Section 25~ allow a care~'ul revi The special excepti, each special excepti, standards to conside impose reasonable c in the Zoning Ordim exception, has never Appellant's use of.~ through an expanstm Hearing Board pursu The treatmer Ordinance for the tre both instances, speci~ by right. In the case In the case ora use p~ Hearing Board apply. special exception app Ordinance for the rea. right rather than a use those uses, which are exception approval b3 circumvent the safegu :rty owner spoke in support &the determination by the Planning/Zoning/Codes that special exception review by the Zoning Hearing Board was appropriate. DISCUSSION : ofPennridge Deveiopment Enterprises, Inc. v. Volovnic, 154 PA. :. 609, 624A.2d 674 (1993) the Commonwealth Court considered the issue of :h was a non-conforming use under a prior Zoning Ordinance was converted to ,hen a subsequent zoning ordinance permitted that use in the district as a ae Court concluded that the ordinance change converted a non-conforming use ~ thereby reversing the lower court and upholding the determination by the 7Supervisors that a conditional use application was required. ,e Pennridge decision, we conclude that the Appellant's use of its property as a a lawfully existing use permitted by special exception in the R-1 Zoning :h it was a permitted use in 1973 when the church was built. The fact that h a conditional use rather than a special exception use is immaterial. The law al uses and special exceptions is virtually identical. Sheetz v. Phoenixville PA Commonwealth Ct. ,804A.2d 113 (2002). ffore the Board is whether the Appellant's expansion of its building requires ~ecial exception before the Zoning Hearing Board since there has been no '. Zoning Heating Board approving the special except/on use. The Zoning unanimous decision of the three Board members present has determined that [pplication is required. .177.A. clearly states that the purpose of the special exception process is "to w of uses that have some potential of conflicts with adjacent uses or areas." n procedure coniemplates careful scrutiny by the Zoning Hearing Board of m use. The Borough Ordinance gives the Zoning Hearing Board specific ' in granting a special exception and allows the Zoning Hearing Board to ~nditions and safeguards in granting a special exception. Because of changes ncc over time, the A ' · · ppellant s use, which ,s now permitted as a special been reviewed by the Zoning Hearing Board. Therefore, any change in the : property, whether that be to a different use .or an expansion of the use of the existing building requires special exception review by the Zoning ant to Section 255-177. t of the Appellant is consistent with the procedure contained in the Borough ttment of the expansion of a non-conforming use. See Article XXI 11. In I treatment is required for a n expansion in a use that is no longer permitted ff a nonconforming use the Borough Ordinance sets specific requirements. :nnitted by special exception, the procedures for review by the Zoning To allow the Appellant to expand its building without the requirement for :oval, as suggested by the Appellant, is inconsistent with the Borough on that it would treat Appellant's use of the property as a use permitted by permitted by special exception. The Borough Ordinance clearly delineates >ermitted by right, and those uses, which are permitted subject to special the Zoning Hearing Board. To ignore the difference in treatment wonld ards established in the special except on process. Anyone County Court of~ Jeffr~t~.~ f3 enja, Date [7 ~t~ J~f~efG. Bergste ~ggrieved by this decision of the Board has th,.' right to appeal to the Cumberland .ommon Pleas within 30 days from the day of th s decision ~/,/ CONNIE MICKLEY, PETITIONER COMMONWEALTH OF pENNSYLVANIA, DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, BUREAU OF DRIVER LICENSING, RESPONDENT IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA No. 03-4988 LICENSESUSPENSION APPEAL ORDER ~ day of ~~ .~ 2003, the appeai AND NOW, this _ filed in the above referenced matter is DENIED in part and REMANDED in part. The petitioner's appeal is DENIED regarding the one year suspension imposed under 75 Pa. C.S. 1532(b) as a consequence of the petitioner's conviction on September 4, 2002, for a violation of 75 Pa. C.S. 3731 on November 4, 2001. The Department represents that the petitioner is due credit for the one year 1532/3721 suspension from September 4, 2002, less jail time. The and the Department shall CORRECT petmoner appeal is REMANDED to the Department THE RECORD AND RESCIND THE REQUIREMENT THAT THE PETITIONER COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE IGNITION INTERLOCK LAW, 42 Pa. C.S. 7001-7003, that the Department imposed without a court order as a condition to the restoration of the petitioner's driving privilege as a result of the petitioner's violation of Section 3731 of the Vehicle Code, violation date November 4, 2003. DISTRIBUTION: George H. Kabusk, Esquire, P ennDOT, Riverfront Office Center, 1101 South Front Street, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania 17104-2516 Karl E. Rominger, Esquire, 155 South Hanover Street, Carlisle, pennsylvania 17013 II~ ~q. 03