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FOR MARK AVENI DIRECT CROSS REDIRECT RECROSS
Mark Aveni
Anita M. Aveni
as on cross
by Mr. Engle
by Mr. Kerr
Sean Aveni
By the Court
FOR ANITA AVENI
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EXAMINATION
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28, 44
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NDEX TO EXHIBITS
FOR MARK AVENI
FOR ANITA AVENI
Ex. No. 1 - letter
Ex. No. 2 - copy of license
& I.D.
Ex. No. 3 - copy of voter
registration card
Ex. No. 4 - copy of Social
Security card
Ex. No. 5 - payee report
30 not admitted
32 48
33 48
34 48
35 48
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THE COURT: Please be seated. This is the
2 time and place for a hearing on preliminary objections to a
3 petition for appointment of a guardian. This case was
4 originally to be -- this matter was originally to be heard
5 by Judge Guido at this time, but he is otherwise occupied
6 and has asked me to hear the matter.
~ These preliminary objections are in the
8 nature of a Petition To Transfer Venue. We will let the
9 record indicate that the Petitioner, that is the objectant,
10 is represented by Jeffrey B. Engle, Esquire. The party that
11 has filed the Petition for Guardianship is represented by
12 John M. Kerr, Esquire, and the young man who is the subject
13 of this proceeding, Sean A. Aveni, is represented by Albert
14 Masland, Esquire. Mr. Masland, are you court-appointed?
15 MR. MASLAND: Yes, Your Honor.
16 THE COURT: All right. Go ahead. Do you
17 want to present evidence?
lg MR. ENGLE: May it please the Court, Your
19 Honor, I'll call my client, Mark Aveni, to the stand.
20 Whereupon,
21 MARK AVENI
22 having been duly sworn, testified as follows:
23 DIRECT EXAMINATION
24 BY MR. ENGLE:
25 Q Okay. Sir, would you please state your name
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1 for the Judge?
2 A Mark Richard Aveni.
3 Q And, Mr. Aveni, how old are you?
4 A Forty-seven.
5 Q And, sir, where do you currently reside?
6 A 220 Erford Lane, Johnstown, Pennsylvania.
7 Q And, sir, that is in Cambria County, is it
8 not?
9 A That is correct.
10 Q And, sir, are you employed there?
11 A Yes, I am.
12 Q And where are you employed at?
13 A I work for Dollar Tree. I'm a store manager.
14 Q And is that also in Cambria County?
15 A Yes, it is.
16 Q And, sir, prior to August the 8th, were you
17 residing at 220 Erford Lane?
18 A I was.
19 Q And how long have you lived at that address?
20 A Ten years.
21 Q And prior to that were you also living in
22 Cambria County?
23 A Yes, I was.
24 Q And your wife, what is your wife's name?
25 A Anita Maria Aveni.
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Q And when were you married?
2 A We were married May 14th, 1988.
3 Q And have you and your wife lived in Cambria
4 County that entire period?
5 A Yes, we have.
6 Q And do you have any children together?
~ A Yes, we do.
8 Q And your child's name?
9 A Sean Anthony Aveni.
10 Q And what is his date of birth?
11 A 10/28/1989.
12 Q And how old is Sean today?
13 A Nineteen.
14 Q Now, does Sean suffer from any sort of
15 disabilities?
16 A Yes, he does.
17 Q And what are his disabilities?
18 A Sean was born with spina bifida.
19 Q I'll tell you what, you are a little too
20 close to that .
21 A Is that better?
22 Q Yes.
23 A Okay. Sean was born with spina bifida T-5,
24 T-6 in the thoracic level. He has no sensation from his
25 hipline down. Sean was also born with hydrocephalus where
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we had to have a shunt put in the day that he was born.
2 Knock on wood, there was no shunt revisions that ever had to
3 be done to Sean.
4 Q Mr. Aveni, slow down a little bit. I know
5 you know this by heart.
6 A Okay.
7 Q But this young lady here has to take all of
8 this down, and you are throwing out some real big five
9 dollar words here.
10 A Okay. I'm sorry.
11 Q I'm sorry. You said he has what?
12 A He had hydrocephalus, which was water on the
13 brain, that he had to have a shunt put in the day that he
14 was born.
15 Q All right. And as a result of that does he
16 suffer from any sort of mental disabilities?
17 A Yes.
18 Q What are those?
19 A Well, Sean -- he is not 19 per say. Okay.
20 He can write. He can read a little bit, okay, but he's not
21 ari actual -- you know, at the age of 19. His mental
22 capacity is probably limited to that.
23 Q What is his mental capacity? The age of
24 what?
25 A I don't know what his -- I don't know.
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Maybe 12, 13.
2 Q Now, was Sean in school in Cambria County?
3 A Yes, he was, Greater Johnstown School
4 District.
5 Q And what grade was he in Greater Johnstown
6 School District?
7 A Twelfth.
g Q And what year did he graduate?
g A He actually graduated in 2007 with his peers
10 that he has been going through school. Sean's been in
11 Greater Johnstown School District all of his life, and when
12 his graduating class graduated, Sean got the honors to
13 graduate with the class. He got to wear a cap and gown. He
14 got to go to the commencement, but Sean will still be in the
15 school district until the age of 21.
16 Q Now, does he actually attend classes there or
17 is he schooled elsewhere?
18 A Yeah, he's homebound. The teacher comes to
19 the house twice a week. It varies. Sometimes she comes
20 Mondays and Wednesdays. That is usually when she came, and
21 she would come anywhere from 2 to 3 hours at a time.
22 Q And when was he scheduled to start school in
23 2009?
24 A September the 14th.
25 Q And that was in Cambria County?
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A Yes.
2 Q Now, does he receive any sort of medical care
3 in Cambria County as a result of his disabilities?
4 A Well, he has occupational and speech
5 therapists, physical therapists that came to the house.
6 One that I can remember, Toni Repack (phonetic), she's been
~ working with Sean for a very long time. Some of the other
g therapists I can't really remember their names, but they do
g ~~ome. The one would come over from the West Side School,
10 which was real close to where we lived. She would actually
11 walk over. So, yes, he did have some of that there.
12 Q And how many hours a week of medical care
13 would he receive?
14 A Through the aides that came from interim
15 health?
16 Q Sure.
l~ A He was getting 40 hours a week. He was
lg getting 28 from Megan, and 12 from Phyllis.
19 Q And those are the names of the two aides that
20 specifically were assigned to Sean?
21 A Yes.
22 Q Megan and Phyllis?
23 A Yes.
24 Q And when is the last date that you saw Sean
25 in Cambria County?
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A August the 12th, 2009.
2 Q And had he received medical care from either
3 Phyllis or Megan on that date?
4 A No. Well, she was up at her grandmother's
5 house on August the 12th -- Megan was. I don't know why she
6 was there, but when I got up to her grandmother's house that
7 evening Megan was there.
8 Q All right. Now, I want to discuss a little
9 bit about the terms of Sean's leaving Cambria County. On
10 August the 8th, did Sean leave the 220 Erford Lane address?
11 A Yes.
12 Q And where did he go?
13 A He went to his grandmother's house.
14 Q Which is where? What is the address there?
15 A 32 Focal Street, Johnstown, Pennsylvania.
16 Q And how far away is that from your house?
1~ A About 15 minutes.
18 Q And who did he go there with? Who took him?
19 A Anita did.
20 Q Your wife?
21 A Yes.
22 Q And what was the purpose that you were under
23 the impression -- what was the purpose of going to the
24 grandmother's house?
25 A Well, me and Anita got into a fight and she
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left. She said she was going to her grandmother's house.
2 I said when are you coming back? I don't know. So they
3 left probably within an hour after we started fighting.
4 Q All right. And then on August 12th what
5 happened?
6 A On August 12th I was home. It was about 7:00
7 in the evening. Anita and her mother showed up at our
8 house. She got more medical stuff, diapers, personal
9 effects of her own. I asked her where Sean was at, and she
10 told me that Sean was up at her grandmother's.
11 Q Which is in Johnstown?
12 A Up in Cover Hill.
13 Q Cover Hill?
14 A Right.
15 Q Okay.
16 A So I waited for them to get their stuff, and
17 I followed them up to Cover Hill to see Sean, and that was
18 about 8:00 at night.
19 Q And that was on August the 12th?
20 A That was August the 12th.
21 Q And is that the last time you saw Sean in
22 Cambria County?
23 A Yes.
24 Q And what did you find out later, after August
25 the 12th?
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A Well, I got served divorce papers probably --
2 it was either August the 24th or the 26th. I'm not sure on
3 the date. I know it was a Wednesday. I was working. I
4 went home at lunchtime to get my mail, and there was a
5 receipt in my mailbox, and I knew exactly what it was as
6 soon as I saw that. So I went and found the mailman in the
7 neighborhood, and I signed for the document -- or the
8 envelope, and I took it home and opened it up, and it was --
9 she filed for a divorce, and that is when I got it.
10 Q Now, did you have any discussions with your
11 wife or with Sean between August the 12th and August the
12 24th?
13 A I have spoken to Sean. When I would call
14 down there to her mother's house, Anita would answer the
15 phone, and I would just ask to talk to Sean. So I have
16 spoken to him, but not to her.
17 Q And you said her mother's house. Where is
18 that located?
19 A 51 Kensington Drive, Camp Hill, Pennsylvania.
20 Q And did your wife or Sean -- I guess -- let
21 me back up. Did your wife ever make you aware that she was
22 now going to be living with Sean in Cumberland County on a
23 permanent basis?
24 A No, she has not.
25 Q When were you served with the Petition for
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Guardianship over Sean?
2 A I received that in the mail on September the
3 2nd, 2009. I would go at 10:00 every morning to get my mail
4 because I could leave work and the mailman was real close to
5 my job, and he would have my mail ready for me, and then on
6 that date, on September the 2nd, is when I got that petition
7 for a guardianship hearing. Or September the 2nd, I'm
8 sorry.
g Q And shortly after that did you retain
10 counsel?
11 A I did. I think I received that, it was
12 either -- I think it was a Wednesday or a Thursday. I'm not
13 quite sure when September the 2nd was, but I called your
14 office on Friday. I know it was a Friday morning. It would
15 have been that week, and I spoke to the secretary at your
16 office. I told her what was going on. She took the
17 message.
lg Q Well, we don't need to get into exactly what
19 we discussed.
20 A Okay.
21 Q But at any point between August the 24th and
22 September the 2nd, did you discuss with your -- with your
23 wife where Sean would be living?
24 A No.
25 Q Had you had discussions with her as to when
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she planned to come back home?
2 A No.
3 Q What was your impression of Sean and your
4 wife not being at home?
5 A Well, I thought when she -- you know, when
6 she was going down to Harrisburg, I thought she was going to
7 go down for a week or so, okay, sort things out, try to work
8 things out, come back and live in Johnstown. Okay. That
9 didn't happen. She went to Harrisburg, and then I was filed
10 with a divorce paper, and then I was filed with a
11 guardianship hearing thing.
12 Q Now, you were made aware through the
13 Petitioner's answers to our preliminary objections that Sean
14 had several things changed to meet his new address?
15 A Yes.
16 Q Here at 51 Kensington. Were you consulted at
17 all by your wife as to whether or not it was okay to change
18 his school district?
19 A No.
20 Q With regard to his Pennsylvania I.D. card,
21 were you made aware that he was going to do that?
22 A No.
23 Q So really the first time you knew that Sean
24 was going to be permanently residing in Cumberland County or
25 at least under his -- under your wife's intentions was not
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until September 2nd?
2 A That is correct.
3 Q And, sir, you are requesting here today that
4 venue be transferred back to Cambria County; is that
5 correct?
6 A Yes.
~ Q And you have also retained counsel with
8 regard to any further actions in Cambria County, have you
9 not?
10 A Yes.
11 MR. ENGLE: Those are all of the questions I
12 have on direct, Your Honor.
13 THE COURT: Mr. Kerr.
14 MR. KERR: Yes. Just a few questions.
15 CROSS EXAMINATION
16 BY MR. KERR:
17 Q Mr. Aveni, you were served with the divorce
18 action -- you signed the certified mail receipt, right?
19 A That is correct.
20 Q And if I was to represent to you that was on
21 August 19th, would you have any reason to dispute that?
22 A No, no. was August 19th a Wednesday?
23 Q I really don't know.
24 A Okay. Like I said, I'm a little -- I won't
25 dispute it. If it was a Wednesday, that would be right
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then.
2 Q So your wife left on August the 12th?
3 A That's correct.
4 Q Okay. So one week later you were served with
5 divorce papers?
5 A Yes.
~ Q Did you read the Divorce Complaint?
g A I did.
g Q Did you read the paragraph where it indicated
10 where your wife's residence was?
11 A Yes.
12 Q And where was that residence located at?
13 A 51 Kensington Drive, Camp Hill.
14 Q So you knew a week after she left that she
15 wasn't coming back because she indicated in the divorce
16 papers that she lived in Camp Hill, Pennsylvania?
l~ A After I got the divorce papers, yes.
18 Q And you took action after that to lock her
19 out of the marital home, correct? You changed the locks?
20 A I did.
21 Q Okay. Now, you are not maintaining, are you,
22 that Sean is being educated presently in the Greater
23 Johnstown School District?
24 A He was up until September the 14th. He was
25 supposed to start school.
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Q Are you aware as to whether the Greater
2 Johnstown School District has transferred all of his records
3 ~o the West Shore School District?
4 A I was as of yesterday.
5 Q Now, have you talked to Sean?
6 A Yes.
~ Q Since your wife left?
g A Yes.
g Q Is it fair to say that you speak with Sean on
10 almost a daily basis?
11 A A daily basis, sir. There may be one day I
12 don't talk to him, and then the following day I would talk
13 to him, yes.
14 Q Okay. So you haven't been excluded from
15 talking to Sean?
16 A Only if I would call Sean. Sean doesn't call
17 me no more.
lg Q Okay. Is it true that when you call
19 frequently your wife answers the phone?
20 A She has a couple of times, yes.
21 Q Have you ever asked to speak to her?
22 A No, I have not.
23 Q Did you ever initiate a discussion and say, I
24 want Sean to come back to Johnstown?
25 A No. I would ask Sean that.
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Q Why would you ask Sean that if you testified
2 that he is basically at a level of a 12 year old?
3 A I would just ask him if he's ready to come
4 home yet.
5 Q And what was his answer to you?
6 A Not yet.
~ Q How about did he ever say to you, leave it
8 go, dad?
g MR. ENGLE: Your Honor, I'm going to object
10 to this as hea rsay, and furthermore, I believe it is
11 irrelevant as to whether or not venue is properly
12 established in Cumberland County.
13 THE COURT: Mr. Kerr, do you have a response
14 to the objecti on?
15 MR. KERR: I'll withdraw the question, Your
16 Honor.
l~ THE COURT: Okay.
18 BY MR. KERR:
19 Q Now, you have testified as to his caregivers.
20 Isn't it true that most of the medical care he received was
21 at the spinal bifida clinic in Pittsburgh at Children's
22 Hospital?
23 A Yes.
24 Q And he goes there at least every year?
25 A Now he goes once a year, that's correct.
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Q Okay. And that is not in Cambria County?
2 A That is not in Cambria County.
3 Q How far from Cambria County are these care
4 providers located? How long of a drive does it take you?
5 A Hour and a half, two hours.
5 Q Okay. And what kind of medical personnel
7 does he receive out of the Children's Hospital in
8 Pittsburgh?
g A He sees a neurologist, a urologist, a social
10 worker, physical therapists, occupational therapists, most
11 -- the two most important things will probably be the
12 neurosurgeon and the neurologist.
13 MR. KERR: Okay. No further questions.
14 THE COURT: Okay. Mr. Masland.
15 MR. MASLAND: I have no questions.
16 THE COURT: Mr. Engle, anything further?
17 MR. ENGLE: No, Your Honor.
18 THE COURT: Okay. You may step down. Thank
19 you.
20 THE WITNESS: Thank you.
21 THE COURT: We will take a brief recess and
22 then resume.
23 (A recess was taken at 10:37 a.m., and court
24 resumed at 11:00 a.m.)
25 AFTER RECESS
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THE COURT: Okay. Mr. Engle, any further
2 witnesses?
3 MR. ENGLE: Yes, Your Honor. I would like to
4 call Ms. Aveni as on cross.
5 THE COURT: Okay.
6 Whereupon,
~ ANITA M. AVENI
g having been duly sworn, testified as follows:
9 AS ON CROSS
10 EXAMINATION
11 BY MR. ENGLE:
12 Q Ma'am, would you please state your name for
13 us?
14 A Anita Maria Aveni.
15 Q And, ma'am, where do you currently reside?
16 A 51 Kensington Drive, Camp Hill, PA.
l~ Q And what date did you establish that
18 residence?
19 A I arrived there August 12th.
20 Q And are you currently employed?
21 A No.
22 Q No?
23 A No.
24 Q And prior to living at 51 Kensington Drive,
25 did you live elsewhere?
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A Yes.
2 Q Where was that?
3 A 220 Erford Lane, Johnstown, PA.
4 THE COURT: Could you move that microphone or
5 speak a little more directly into it, closer to it I guess
6 is what I mean to say. Thank you.
7 BY MR. ENGLE:
g Q And that is in Cambria County, correct?
g A Yes.
10 Q And how long have you lived in Cambria County
11 prior to August 12th?
12 A Twenty-two, twenty-three years.
13 Q And do you have one child, Sean?
14 A Yes.
15 Q And you heard Mr. Aveni testify that he has
16 some special needs, correct?
1~ A Yes.
18 Q And would you agree with the assessment about
19 those needs?
20 A Yes.
21 Q And upon establishing your permanent
22 residence here on August the 12th, I believe, you had filed
23 a Divorce Complaint against your husband; is that correct?
24 A Yes.
25 Q And that was in Cumberland County?
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A Yes.
Q And you both own a home in Cambria County, do
you not?
A Yes.
Q And you did not file the Petition for
Guardianship until after you filed the Divorce Complaint; is
that correct?
A Yes.
Q How much later was that filed? Do you know?
A Offhand I really don't.
Q Was it a week or more than a week?
A A week or two. It wasn't long.
Q All right. And between the time that you
filed the Divorce Complaint and the time that the Petition
for Guardianship was filed, were you in the process of
changing Sean 's address for purposes of Social Security?
A For the purpose of Social Security?
Q Yes, the Social Security address? His card,
I'm sorry.
A I changed his address for that? I changed
his address because that is where we were going to live. I
don't understand what you're asking.
Q When did you change his address for Social
Security?
A It was in August. Around the 19th.
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Somewhere around there, I believe.
2 Q Okay. And that was sometime on or after the
3 filing of the Divorce Complaint; is that correct?
4 A Yes.
5 Q But that was prior to the filing of the
6 Petition for Guardianship, correct?
~ A Yes.
g Q And when did you change officially his school
9 district?
10 A He was accepted into the school district on
11 -- I believe it was September 4th they got the records from
12 Johnstown.
13 Q And that was done after the filing of the
14 complaint, b ut before or sometime after the filing of the
15 guardianship action, correct?
16 A I believe so.
17 Q And his voter registration as well was
18 changed?
19 A Yes.
20 Q And when was that changed?
21 A The same day we changed our address on the
22 I.D. and dri ver's license.
23 Q And, again, that was after the filing of the
24 Divorce Comp laint, correct?
25 A I believe so.
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Q All right. Now, the changing of his address
2 for purposes of school, healthcare, voter registration, and
3 Social Security, did you consult with Mr. Aveni prior to
4 doing that?
5 A No.
6 Q And you heard Mr. Aveni testify as to what he
7 does physically to care for Sean. Do you dispute either his
8 ability or his willingness to care for Sean?
g A I don't dispute his -- I dispute his ability
10 to take care of Sean, yes, but not his willingness.
11 Q What does Mr. Aveni do on a daily basis to
12 care for Sean?
13 A He puts him to bed at night. He gives him
14 his meds and cath.
15 Q And that is it?
16 A That is it.
l~ Q What do you do for him?
lg A I am there all day. I cath him. I bathe
19 him. I shave him. I take him to doctors appointments. I'm
20 there with him.
21 Q Okay. And you are not working, correct?
22 A No, I'm not.
23 Q And Mr. Aveni works?
24 A Yes, he does.
25 Q And you also have home healthcare?
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A Yes.
2 Q Aides?
3 A Yes.
4 Q And that was through interim health care?
5 A Yes.
6 Q In Cambria County?
~ A Yes.
8 Q And how long have they been providing care
g for Sean prior to August 12th?
10 A We have had home health aides for awhile.
11 Q More than a year?
12 A Yes.
13 Q More than two years?
14 A I would say yeah.
15 Q Now, I heard some cross examination about
16 Sean being taken to Pittsburgh Children's Hospital.
l~ A Yes.
18 Q For his various procedures and so forth?
19 A Once a year, yes, a checkup.
20 Q Have you made arrangements with Pittsburgh
21 Healthcare to transfer his records for ongoing care to
22 somewhere in Cumberland County?
23 A No.
24 Q Have you made arrangements to transfer them
25 elsewhere?
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A Transfer his records from Pittsburgh?
2 Q Yes.
3 A No.
4 Q Have you made arrangements for his care
5 elsewhere other than in Pittsburgh?
6 A Yes, we have changed his pediatrician to
7 Doctor Kathry n Gallagher.
8 Q And where is she located?
9 A In Dillsburg.
10 Q And she is a neurologist?
11 A No.
12 Q Is she a urologist?
13 A No.
14 Q Is she a social worker?
15 A No.
16 Q Does she provide physical therapy?
17 A No.
18 Q Okay. So everything that you are discussing
19 ghat he would be cared for in Pittsburgh is not the same?
20 A He has a urologist now, yes.
21 Q Where is he located?
22 A Doctor Prudencio. He's located in -- I guess
23 it's Mechanicsburg, Harrisburg somewhere.
24 Q And that was this recent change after August
25 the 12th?
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A Yes.
2 Q And was Mr. Aveni consulted about any of
3 these changes?
4 A No.
5 Q Now, Sean is currently residing here, based
6 upon what your petition states or your answers to the
7 P.O.'s. Was Sean ever consulted as to what he wanted?
8 A I have asked Sean who he wants to live with.
9 If he was happy.
10 Q And now Sean has been living here at
11 Kensington Avenue for approximately 8 weeks, give or take?
12 A Yeah. Yes.
13 Q How much time would he spend with his
14 relatives in Camp -- or in -- I'm sorry, at Kensington
15 Avenue prior to August the 12th?
16 A A couple times a year.
17 Q And for what duration of time?
18 A Weekends. A day here.
19 Q But never eight weeks straight?
20 A No.
21 Q And what relatives does he have in the
22 Cumberland County area?
23 A His grandmother and his grandfather.
24 Q And what relatives does he have in Cambria
25 County besides his father and his uncle?
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A His grandmother and his grandfather.
2 Q And how often would he see them?
3 A Once every couple weeks.
4 Q Would they come to see him as well?
5 A No, not anymore.
6 Q They have physical disabilities?
7 A She doesn't. He does.
8 Q Now, did you ever discuss with Mr. Aveni on
9 August the 12th when you left with Sean that you were going
10 to permanently relocate Sean to Cumberland County?
11 A No.
12 MR. ENGLE: Those are all of the questions
13 that I have, Your Honor.
14 THE COURT: Mr. Kerr.
15 MR. KERR: Yes.
16 EXAMINATION
17 BY MR. KERR:
18 Q Anita, why did you move to Camp Hill?
19 A Because there's too much conflict between
20 Mark and I.
21 Q And did he understand you were coming to Camp
22 Hill?
23 A Yes, he did.
24 Q And you brought your son with you?
25 A Yes, I did.
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Q Why did you tell Sean that you were moving to
2 Camp Hill?
3 A Because mommy and daddy fight too much.
4 Q And what was his understanding?
5 MR. ENGLE: I'm going to object based on
6 hearsay, and it is not relevant. The guardianship has not
7 yet been determined.
8 THE COURT: Okay. Mr. Kerr, do you have a
9 response?
10 MR. KERR: I mean I think it follows
11 completely in line with what he was asking on direct. I
12 think it is relevant.
13 THE COURT: Okay.
14 MR. KERB: We're talking about venue. We're
15 talking about -- you know, their position is Sean did not
16 understand what was going on. They stated that right in
17 their preliminary objections. So I think I would have a
18 right to bring that out.
19 THE COURT: Well, you may ask what Sean said
20 in regard to his understanding, but not what she thinks he
21 understood. Mr. Masland, do you have a position on this?
22 MR. MASLAND: I think it would be fair for
23 her to answer what Sean has told her. For that matter,
24 Mr. Aveni could do the same as to what Sean has told him.
25 THE COURT: All right. Go ahead, Mr. Kerr.
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BY MR. KERR:
2 Q What has S ean told you?
3 A That he wants to live with mommy.
4 Q Okay.
5 THE COURT: How are we marking these
6 exhibits?
7 MR. KERR: Petitioner's 1.
8 THE COURT: Well, on the preliminary
9 objections I guess the other side is the Petitioner. Why
10 don't we mark these as your client's name rather than --
11 MR. KERR: Well, they both have the same last
12 name.
13 THE COURT: I understand, but she has a first
14 name.
15 MR. KERR: Anita 1? Is that how you want it?
16 THE COURT: That's fine.
17 (Anita Exhibit No. 1 was marked for
18 identificatio n.)
19 BY MR. KERR:
20 Q Anita, can you identify that exhibit for me?
21 THE COURT: Well, first how has this exhibit
22 been marked?
23 BY MR. KERR:
24 Q Looking at Anita No. 1, can you identify
25 that?
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3 MR. ENGLE: Your Honor, I would object
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5 THE COURT: As hearsay?
6 MR. ENGLE: Yes, Your Honor.
7 THE COURT: Okay. Mr. Kerr.
8 MR. KERR: They have raised -- in their
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10 school in Johnstown. I think we have a right to introduce
11 documents to show that that's not true.
12 THE COURT: Okay. Mr. Masland.
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14 document is something that Ms. Aveni has received, I imagine
15 it could be introduced. Whether they need someone from the
16 school district to verify, I don't know that that is
17 essential. We could have Sean come in and testify, I don't
18 think that would be in his best interests, to say where --
19 from whom he's receiving instruction.
20 THE COURT: All right. The objection on
21 hearsay grounds is sustained. You can have the witness say
22 where he's in school.
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2 office and r egistered him for school and got him homebound
3 instruction like he was receiving in Johnstown.
4 Q And when did his instruction begin?
5 A He was accepted into the school district on
6 the 4th of S eptember. He's had three -- I want to say two
7 weeks he's b een in school.
8 Q And who is his instructor?
9 A Leah, and I don't know how to pronounce her
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11 Q How often does she come to the house?
12 A Twice a week.
13 Q Does he receive any other services from the
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15 A Yes. He receives physical therapy and
16 occupational therapy.
17 Q And who are the individuals that come to your
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19 A Mary is the physical therapist, and I'm not
20 sure yet who the O.T. is.
21 Q How often do they come to your house?
22 A Biweekly.
23 Q Okay.
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2 Q I have placed an exhibit that's marked as
3 Anita 2. Can you identify that for the record?
4 A That is my driver's license with my new
5 address, and it is Sean's I.D. card with his new address.
6 Q And when did he go to PennDOT to effect that
7 transfer?
8 A The end of August.
9 Q Okay.
10 A The 17th of August.
11 Q And what is the address listed for his
12 identification card?
13 A 51 Kensington Drive, Camp Hill, PA.
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18 identified as Anita 3. Can you identify that for the
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20 A It is Sean's new voter registration card.
21 Q And do you know when his registration -- this
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23 A October 14th, 2007, is when he enrolled. I
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2 THE COURT: Now, this is a voters
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4 THE WITNESS: Yes.
5 THE COURT: And does Sean vote?
6 THE WITNESS: Yes, he does.
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10 Q I have placed before you an exhibit that's
11 marked as Anit a No. 4. Can you identify what that is?
12 A It is the new Social Security card.
13 Q What address is indicated for this new Social
14 Security card?
15 A 51 Kensington Drive, Camp Hill, PA.
16 Q Okay.
17 THE COURT: Has Sean signed any of the
18 paperwork for these applications or changes?
19 THE WITNESS: When we went to apply he
21 THE COURT: Apply for what?
22 THE WITNESS: Well, when we had to change his
23 I.D., he had to sign a piece of paper, and I believe he had
24 to sign for the -- I don't know if he had to sign for the
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2 THE COURT: All right. Mr. Kerr.
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5 Q I have placed before you an exhibit that is
7 marked Anita 5. Can you identify Anita 5?
8 A Yes. It is a representative payee report
9 from Social Security.
10 Q What does it indicate as to the individual's
11 -- or your role?
12 A I am the representative payee for Sean.
13 Q Is your husband also a representative payee?
14 A No.
15 Q Since the time that you have moved down here,
16 have you altered the address in the bank account that his
17 Social Security funds?
18 A Yes.
19 Q And where will the Social Security come to
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21 A 51 Kensington Drive.
22 Q And does he have a bank account in this area?
23 A Yes.
24 Q And where might that be?
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2 Q Is it in Cumberland County?
3 A Yes, it is.
4 Q Okay. Now, where were his Social Security
5 funds deposit ed before?
6 A In a joint checking account of Mark and I.
7 Q Okay. And since moving to this area has Sean
8 received his funds that were deposited into that bank
9 account?
10 A He didn't receive August's. He received
11 September's v ia money order, and Social Security sent
12 October's to 51 Kensington Drive.
13 Q And who sent the money order for September
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15 A Mark.
16 Q Okay. Has he explained to you why he has not
17 forwarded Sea n's funds for August?
18 A No.
19 Q And as far as you know, he has kept those
20 funds for his own from August 2009?
21 A Yes.
22 THE COURT: For how long have you been this
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24 THE WITNESS: Since Sean was born.
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3 THE COURT: And that's been how long?
4 THE WITNESS: I don't know if he got it right
5 after he was born or if it was a couple years after that.
6 THE COURT: Okay. Mr. Kerr.
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8 Q How much does he receive a month?
9 A $674, and then he receives from the State
10 $2740, I beli eve.
11 Q Did there come a time after you moved down
12 here when you telephoned your husband because Sean had no
13 money and he needed money?
14 A Yes.
15 Q And tell me a little bit about that
16 conversation with your husband.
17 MR. ENGLE: I am going to object generally.
18 I think this is irrelevant to the determination of venue. I
19 have no idea what this is relevant to.
20 THE COURT: Mr. Kerr.
21 MR. KERR: Well, it is certainly relevant to
22 the venue arg uments that they have raised. They are
23 claiming that everything is out there, and it is not out
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4 THE COURT: How does Mr. Aveni's reaction to
5 requests for money play -- how will that help me decide
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~ MR. KERR: Well, we're talk -- okay. I'm not
8 sure. There is a lot of things that they pleaded in their
9 preliminary objections that I am not sure strictly relates
10 to the venue issue. I am just presenting evidence to show
11 that there was an intention to move down here. There's been
12 an intention to remain here as a resident and to remain here
13 on a permanent basis.
14 THE COURT: What is pled in the preliminary
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16 MR. KERR: Well, that there is a bank account
17 in Johnstown, and his Social Security funds go into that
18 bank account.
19 THE COURT: Okay. Mr. Masland, do you have a
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21 MR. MASLAND: I have no position.
22 THE COURT: Okay. The objection is
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2 A Yes.
3 Q And where is the physical therapy located?
4 A 51 Kensington Drive.
5 Q Okay. And who provides those services?
6 A West Shore School District.
7 Q Does he receive services from any aides?
8 A Yes. We have an LPN that comes 28 hours a
9 week, her name is Brenda, and we have a CNA who comes 12
10 hours a week, and her name is Debbie.
11 Q Does Sean have any physicians in this area?
12 A Yes. He has Doctor Gallagher, which is his
13 primary physician. Because he is age 19, he didn't need a
14 pediatrician anymore. And Doctor Prudencio, who is a
15 urologist who is treating him right now for an infection.
16 Q Now, counsel asked you on direct exam whether
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18 your intention that Sean would still go to the spinal bifida
19 clinic?
20 A Yes, until he is 21.
21 Q And what type of services does he get from
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Q What physician was located in Cambria County?
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Q And he no longer needs the services of a
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Q Did Sean require urgent medical care
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Q And who was he taken to?
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Q And what was the issue?
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Q Did Sean's father ever object to your moving
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Q Now, you testified in response to a question
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ability to care for Sean. Can you elaborate on that?
A I think Mark is careless at times when it
comes to taking care of Sean, and Mark has never been the
one to pick up on infections or anything that is wrong.
Q Can you tell the Court what kind of things go
wrong, and generally what he suffers from?
A He suffers from seizures. He has what they
call dumping syndrome, where his sugar level will drop and
he will take seizures. He gets a lot of urinary tract
infections. Mark doesn't wash his hands before he caths
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Q How many times do you cath him a day?
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2 A All my life. All his life.
3 Q Well, has it been just during the day until
4 Mark gets home?
5 A No. It goes on every day all day, whenever
6 Sean needs me.
7 Q Do you intend to remain in the Camp Hill
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9 A Yes, I do.
10 MR. KERR: No further questions.
11 THE COURT: Okay. Mr. Engle.
12 MR. ENGLE: Thank you, Your Honor. Ma'am --
13 THE COURT: Well, let's see, Mr. Masland --
14 MR. MASLAND: I have no questions.
15 THE COURT: You have no questions. Okay.
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19 Q Ma'am, I am a little curious. You indicated
20 on direct or cross exam to me that you never indicated to
21 Mr. Aveni that you intended to permanently move to
22 Cumberland County; is that correct?
23 A No, I did not tell him that. No. Is that
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Q What did you tell him? That you were coming
for a temporary stay?
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and we needed time apart.
Q And was it Sean's idea to change his voter
registration to Cumberland County or was it yours?
A It was mine.
Q was it Sean's idea to change his state I.D.
registration to Cumberland County or was it yours?
A Mine.
Q Was it his idea to change the -- to move
himself to the West Shore School District and register there
or was it yours?
A Mine.
Q And I would assume any and all decisions that
regard the health, safety and welfare were made by you as it
relates to Sean; is that correct?
A Correct.
Q And did you ever consult with Mr. Aveni prior
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A Yes.
Q Now, you indicated that Sean indicated to you
that he wants to live with you?
A Yes.
Q Did Sean ever indicate to you that he doesn't
want to have any contact with his father?
A No.
Q Did Sean ever indicate to you that he wanted
to move from Cambria County?
A No.
Q You made that decision for him?
A Yes.
Q Without consulting my client?
A Yes.
MR. ENGLE: No further questions.
THE COURT: Mr. Kerr.
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Q Anita, how often had you discussed divorce
with your husband prior to moving in August?
A A lot of times. As soon as July. I left in
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Q Was it the understanding when you were
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A It was always assumed Sean would go with me.
MR. KERR: No further questions.
THE COURT: Mr. Masland.
MR. MASLAND: No questions.
THE COURT: Mr. Engle.
MR. ENGLE: Nothing further, Your Honor.
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WITNESS: No.
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WITNESS: Thank you.
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THE COURT: Okay. Mr. Kerr.
MR. KERR: No witnesses.
THE COURT: Mr. Masland.
MR. MASLAND: Nothing to add, Your Honor.
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MR. ENGLE: I don't think it is necessary
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MR. MASLAND: I would suggest if it be done,
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THE COURT: Mr. Kerr.
MR. KERR: I think it might be a good idea.
THE COURT: All right. Will it be agreeable
to have counsel in chambers, but not the parties, that is
the mother and father?
MR. KERR: Yes.
MR. ENGLE: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Okay. We'll resume in chambers
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MASLAND: Sean, this is Judge Oler.
COURT: Hi. Nice to meet you.
WITNESS: Hi.
MASLAND: I will sit right beside you
met Mr. Engle yet.
ENGLE: Hi, Sean.
WITNESS: Hi.
MASLAND: He's your daddy's lawyer, and
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MR. KERR: I think informally.
MR. ENGLE: I think so.
MR. MASLAND: He'll tell you the truth.
He'll tell you what he's thinking.
THE COURT: All right. Sean, this is what is
called a guardianship proceeding, and a question has arisen
as to where you are living, where your residence is. Now, I
realize that right at the moment you are living with your
mother.
THE WITNESS: Yeah.
THE COURT: Where do you regard your
permanent home to be at this point? Do you think it is with
your father or with your mother?
THE WITNESS: Mom.
THE COURT: With your mother?
THE WITNESS: Yeah.
THE COURT: Are you satisfied with that?
THE WITNESS: Yes.
THE COURT: All right. Okay. Any other
questions by counsel?
MR. KERR: You may want to ask him if he
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3 THE WITNESS: Yes.
4 THE COURT: And you understand that?
5 THE WITNESS: Yes, I know.
6 MR. MASLAND: And you love both of your
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8 THE WITNESS: Yeah. Oh, yeah.
9 THE COURT: All right. If there is nothing
10 further, thank you very much. Nice to meet you.
11 THE WITNESS: See you..
12 (The proceedings resumed in open court.)
13 THE COURT: Please be seated. We will let
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15 with Sean, who seems to be a very nice young man and makes a
16 very nice impression, and all counsel were present. Is
17 there any further evidence to be submitted in the case?
18 MR. KERR: No. I just need to move for the
19 admission of Anita 2, 3, 4, and 5.
20 MR. ENGLE: No objection, Your Honor.
21 THE COURT: And Mr. Masland.
22 MR. MASLAND: No objection, Your Honor.
23 THE COURT: All right. Anita Exhibits 2, 3,
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4 MR. ENGLE: We do, Your Honor.
5 THE COURT: All right.
6 MR. ENGLE: Do you prefer we do it here?
7 THE COURT: Wherever you are comfortable is
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9 MR. ENGLE: Your Honor, prior to our hearing
10 today I did supply the Court with a packet of cases which I
11 felt were relevant to the Court's determination in this
12 matter. The case that I would like to point out was not in
13 my P.O.'s, the case of In Re: Forsyth Estate, which stands
14 for the proposition that with regard to the appointment of a
15 guardian of an adult incompetent, that the Court should
16 consider it similar to a child custody case, and basically
17 determine what is in the best interests of the child, and
18 that is a very short case, but nonetheless I think it is an
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20 THE COURT: What is the cite for that?
21 MR. ENGLE: Sure, Your Honor. That is a
22 D & C case, 12 Pa. D & C third 368, a case out of Fayette
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2 MR. ENGLE: The cases that I have cited to in
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4 proposition of domicile, which is In Re: Publicker's Estate
5 cited at 123 A.2d 655, a 1956 Supreme Court case, in which
6 the Court points out that the domicile of a person -- and
7 again, this is with regard to the Pennsylvania Estates and
8 Fiduciary Code -- that the domicile of a person is a place
9 where he has voluntarily fixed his habitation with the
10 present intention to make it either his permanent home or
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15 an intention to make it his home. However, the intention
16 has not been that of the incompetent. It is the intention
17 of the mother to make it his permanent home.
18 Further, he has not voluntarily come to
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20 By all intents and purposes, mother took him on August 12th
21 without telling father. She admitted to that, much to her
22 credit, that, you know, they were going through some
23 difficult times, and essentially took him to Cumberland
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2 accordingly the Court cannot rule as to whether or not he's
3 competent, but I would ask that venue be transferred back to
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7 pronounced Du Pui, D-u separate word P-u-i, Du Pui estate,
8 which points out that domicile and residence are two
9 completely non-interchangeable items, and that domicile
10 within the county is a jurisdictional prerequisite to the
11 wife's proceeding for the appointment of a guardian of the
12 estate of her allegedly weak-minded husband unable to care
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14 Here we have a very similar situation except
15 we have a son who is allegedly weak-minded, and I would
16 point out to the Court that at no time did Sean ever intend
17 to permanently reside or move to Cumberland County for
18 purposes of establishing his domicile, and I would,
19 therefore, submit that the appropriate place for this
20 adjudication of Sean would be back in Cambria County where
21 he has resided all of his life up until August the 12th.
22 THE COURT: All right. And the exact words
23 of the statute regarding a venue are what?
24 MR. ENGLE: I believe I cited to it in my
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MR. KERR: It says or.
MR. MASLAND: Your Honor, it uses both in
Section 5512, 20 Pa.C.S.A. 5512 (a) it says the Court in
which the incapacitated person is domiciled, is a resident
or is residing in a. long-term care facility.
THE COURT: All right. Thank you. Mr. Kerr.
MR. KERR: Yes, Your Honor. I think that
your interview with Sean answers all of the questions that
counsel has raised in that he understands that his parents
aren't getting along, and he clearly indicated that he wants
to live with his mother.
THE COURT: Well, that was in chambers, and I
heard what he said. He basically indicated he loved both
parents, and that is sufficient. Go ahead.
MR. KERR: Well, you know, I think the facts
of this case fit in with all of the case law that opposing
counsel cited. Particularly with the citation of the
statute that Mr. Masland has just read to you where it says
a guardian may be appointed where the incapacitated person
is domiciled or is a resident.
He is clearly a resident here, and I believe
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She was the primary caregiver for 19 plus
years. Where she went, he had to go. All the caregivers
are here now. The educational facilities are here. The
only thing that is not here is what is located in Allegheny
County, which is being maintained the same as it has been
for the past number of years.
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Honor, is the P.O.'s also indicated the nature of the
transfer of venue. Rule 1028 of the Rules of Civil
Procedure indicate that's not proper for preliminary
objections. This is solely an issue as to whether venue is
proper here or not, and I think venue is proper here.
I think that they have established an
indication to make a permanent home here or for the
indefinite future, which fits right in with counsel's cited
case of In Re: Publicker's Estate, a 1956 case, 123 A.2d
658. Thank you.
THE COURT: All right. Thank you.
Mr. Masland, what is your position on behalf of the child?
MR. MASLAND: Very briefly, Your Honor, it is
challenging to argue a venue issue like this, but there is a
few things I think on Sean's behalf I would like to raise.
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Sean may not be capable of participating in
every decision. He may not be capable physically of
participating in decisions about where to live or where to
move. I think the most telling thing though, as the Court
noted, is that Sean loves both of his parents.
And I would point out in that respect that
under 5514, a court may appoint co-guardians. I realize
this is a limited venue issue now, but I do point that out
for the Court's benefit, that that is something which is
possible for the Court to do, and I would just suggest that
wherever Sean lives, I hope the parties have his best
interests in mind and make sure that there is plenty of
contact with both mother and father. So more important than
venue is that, Your Honor.
THE COURT: All right. Thank you very much.
We will take it under advisement. I realize it is necessary
to make a decision quite promptly because there is a hearing
scheduled for next week if the case stays in Cumberland
County. So I would hope by the end of the day today to have
an order entered. Very nicely presented by both counsel,
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4 AND NOW, this 2nd day of October, 2009, upon
5 consideration of the preliminary objections filed by Mark R.
6 Aveni in the nature of a Petition To Transfer Venue, and
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ERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the proceedings are
contained fully and accurately in the notes taken by me on
the above cause, and that this is a correct transcript of
same.
C
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Michele A. Eline
Official Court Reporter
The foregoing record of the proceedings on
the hearing of the within matter is hereby approved and
directed to be filed.
Date ~ Wesley `O) r, Jr. J.
'nth Judicial District
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