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COUNTY OF: ~EI~.~ NOTICE OF JUDGMENT/TRANSCRIPT
Mag. Dist. No,: PLAINTIFF: CIVIL CASE
NAME and ADDRESS
09 - 3 - 02 ~WHI SLER ' S WELL DRILLIN~
DJ Name: Hon. 366 - 1 G-R.EENSPRIN~
HELEN B. SHULENBER~ER NEWVILLE, PA 17241
Address: p, O. ' BOX 155
27 W. BI~ SPI~IN~ AVENUE L ._1
VS.
NEWVlLLE, PA DEFENDANT: NAME andADDRESS
Telephone: (717) 776- 3187 17261 I-HOSFET.T, I~OC, EI~ -1
115 SOUTHSIDE DR
NEWVILLE, PA 17241
WHISLER ~ S WELL DRILLIN~ L_ _1
366 - 1 ~REENS PRIN~ RD 0ocke! ~o.' CV- 0000155 - 00
NEWVILLE, PA 17241 Date ~iled: 11/20/00
THIS IS TO NOTIFY YOU THAT-
Judgment'
~ Judgment was entered for: (Name)
~] Judgment was entered against: (Name) ~o.~'m',?,
in the amount of $ 9... {319.. __ ~7_ on: (Date of Judgment) 1 /
[ ~ Defendants are jointly and severally liable. (Date & Time)
[~ Damages will be assessed on' Amount of Judgment $_1,925 o 27
Judgment Costs $ 87 o 60
[~ This case dismissed without prejudice Interest on Judgment $ .00
· Attorney Fees $ o 00
Total $ 2,012.87
[ Amount of Judgment Subiect to
Attachment/Act 5 of 1996' $
Post Judgment Credits $
[~ Levy is stayed for~ days or [~ generally stayed. Post Judgment Costs $
_-___...
Certified Judgment Total $
[~ Objection to levy has been filed and hearing will be held:
Date' Place'
Time:
ANY PARTY HAS THE RIGHT TO APPEAL WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER THE ENTRY OF JUDGMENT BY FILING A NOTICE
OF APPEAL WITH THE PROTHONOTARY/CLERK OF THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS, CIVIL DIVISION. YOU
MUST INCLUDE A COPY OF NOTICE O/~UDGMENT/TRANSCRIPT F.(j)RM WITH YOUR NOTICE OF APPEAL.
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AOPC 315-99
WHISLER'S WELL DRILLING, ·IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS
PLAINTIFF ·OF CUMBERLAND COUNTY,
·PENNSYLVANIA
V. ·NO. 2001-1830 CIVIL TERM
ROGER HOSFELT, .
DEFENDANT ·
P_.LAINTIFFS' BRIEF IN SUPPORT OF THEIR OPPOSITION TO
DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO REOPEN THE JUDGMENT
I. FACTUAL AND PROCEDURAL HISTORY
Plaintiff, Whislers' Well Drilling, is a sole proprietorship, owned and
operated by Richard Whisler. Notes of Deposition of Defendant on July 18,
2001 (hereinafter, "N D "~
..... ~ at page 17, lines 3-7. Defendant, Roger Hosfelt,
is self-employed as a general contractor. N.D. at 4.
On or about November 1999, defendant asked Ronald Armolt,
plaintiffs' excavator, to deliver sand to defendant's lot #9 at Deer Crossing
Estates. Notes of Testimony of Ken Whilser (hereinafter referred to as
"N.T.") at 8, lis. 3-10. Defendant planned to utilize the sand for a
sandmound septic system. Defendant never provided a septic design to
plaintiff for a sandmound on lot 9. N.T. 11, lis. 19 - N.T. 13, lis. 10.
Defendant has never paid plaintiff for the sand.
Plaintiff additionally provided excavating services for defendant on a
Franklin County property owned by defendant. Defendant admits the
excavation was satisfactorily and timely completed. He also admits that he
did not pay plaintiff for the excavation. N.D. at 18-19. Defendant admits
the value of the sand is $950.00.
On January 25,2001, a hearing was held before District Justice
Harold Bender, who is substituting for Helen B. Shulenberger in the above-
captioned matter. N.D. at 5. Janet Whisler appeared to present the factual
basis of plaintiffs' claim at that hearing. N.D. 5-6. Roger Hosfelt appeared
on his own behalf at the hearing on January 25,2001. N.D. at 17, lis. 12-14.
Neither party appeared with legal counsel. N.D. 17-18. A Judgment was
entered against the Defendant in the amount of Two Thousand Twelve
Dollars and Eight-seven Cents ($2,012.87) on that date. N.D. at 5, lis. 20-
24. Also see, Notice of Judgment, attached hereto as Plaintiff's Exhibit A.
The Notice of Judgment clearly provides standard notice at the bottom of
the judgment. It states that,
"ANY PARTY HAS THE RIGHT TO APPEAL
WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER THE ENTRY OF
JUDGMENT BY FILING A NOTICE OF APPEAL
WITH THE PROTHONoTARY/CLERK OF COURT OF
COMMON PLEASE, CIVIL DIVISION..."
Defendant admits receiving the Notice of Judgment. N.D. at 12,
lis.21-25. On or about March 29, 2001, the Judgment was entered against
the Defendant, Roger Hosfelt. Se~e, Prothonotary's Office Notice, dated
March 29, 2001, attached hereto as Plaintiff's Exhibit B.
On or about June 1,2001, the Defendant by and through his counsel,
Sally Winder, Esquire, filed a Petition To Open Judgment, or alternatively,
allow filing of a notice of appeal from District Justice Complaint Nunc pro
Tunc requesting this Honorable Court to reopen this matter. This Honorable
Court directed that depositions to be completed within forty-nine (49) days-
from June 4, 2001. Depositions were conducted on July 18, 2001.
Briefs were directed to be filed on or before August 22, 2001. This
Brief arises from said Order.
II. ISSUE
Whether the defendant should be precluded from reopening the
Judgment entered against him?
Suggested Answer: In the affirmative.
III. ARGUMENT
·
The sole issue this Honorable Court is whether or not this Court may
allow Defendant to reopen the Judgment entered against him. The Superior
Court has ruled that where a Defendant fails to plead sufficiently that a
Defendant did not file a timely appeal due to a breakdown or a fraudent
activity within the court system, an appeal Nunc pro Tunc will be denied.
Goldberg v. Goldberg, 461 A.2nd 1037, 315 Pa. Super. 333 (1983). and 42
Pa.C.S.A. § 1002. A Defendant may only be permitted to reopen a Judgment
against him when he shows that his failure to file a timely appeal was an
administrative error, negligence or fraud. Goldberg citing Conrad v.
Keemmer, 447 A.2nd 1032 (1982).
The sole issue before this Honorable Court is whether or not the
Defendant, Roger L. Hosfelt's, failure to file a timely appeal was due an
administrative error, negligence or fraud. Defendant has failed to plead
such a failure. He also has failed to provided a sufficient factual basis at the
depositions conducted on July 18, 2001, to support the reopending of the
judgment.
Mr. Hosfelt's asks that This Honorable Court should allow him to
reopen the Judgment entered against him based upon his contention that
preceding, during and following the hearing before District Justice Bender,
he entered into a contractual relationship with Whisler's Well Drilling to put
a well and septic system in on his property located at Lot 9 at Deer Crossing
Estates in the amount of $8,500. Following the hearing, District Justice
Harold Bender entered a judgment on behalf of Whisler's Well Drilling and
against Mr. Hosfelt.
Both in his pleadings and at his deposition, defendant states that
District Justice Bender witnessed the negotiations between defendant and
plaintiff. N.D. at 6, lis. 3-12; at 7, lis. 18-25; at 8, lis. 1-9. Also see_,
Petition to Open Judgment, paragraph 7. In fact, defendant claims that
District Justice Bender mediated an agreement between the parties. N.D. at
6, lis. 8-12; at 8, lis. 7-9.
District Justice Bender has provided an Affidavit that defendant
admitted as his exhibit "D-A" during the deposition on July 18, 2001. His
affidavit states that Janet Whisler never entered into discussions in attempts
to resolve this case; never admitted to this matter being a part of any
uncompleted contract; nor never agreed or bound Whisler's to install a
sandmound septic system and well for defendant. He states that, "[t]o the
contrary, Janet Whisler informed Roger Hosfelt that she would have to
discuss this matter with her husband, Richard Whisler." Se~e, District Justice
Bender Affidavit, attached hereto as Plaintiff's Exhibit C.~
1
Because credibility is important to this matter, the court should note that the defendant in his pleading and
verification made under threat of unswom falsification, on May 31,2001, that the well and septic were not
yet installed as of that date. At deposition, defendant admitted that on May 20, 2001, Adams Well Drilling
installed the well on the lot at issue. D.T. at 22. Ken Whisler testified that the well had been installed and
Ken Whisler testified that the first time that the defendant and he
discussed the installation of a well and septic system on lot #9, was in late
winter, when defendant telephoned him. N.T. at 10, lis. 18-22. Ken
informed defendant that Dick Whisler refused to perform any more work for
defendant. N.T. at 14, lis. 22-25.
Ken also testified that his mother, Janet Whisler, informed him that
she never entered into any agreement with defendant to install a well or
septic system. N.T. at 16.
Defendant claims that District Justice Bender, a sworn office of the
court, must be lying. N.D. at 9, lis. 7-20. He also believes that Janet
Whisler, Ken Whisler and Ron Armolt, the excavator, are lying.
When the thirty-day (30) appeal period approached, defendant did not
both to contact an attorney nor did he file the appeal. He has been through
numerous hearing before district justices where he has both won and lost
cases. He is fully aware that you may appeal a district justice's ruling. N.D.
at 24, lis. 15 - N.D. at 25, lis. 7.
Defendant had not even filed an appeal by April 30, 2001. Defendant
stakes for the septic system had been placed. N.T. 14.
states that he had no reason for not filing the appeal. N.D. at 27, lis. 19-23.
Defendant should not be provided the opportunity to benefit from his
own lack of diligence. In defendant's Petition to Open Judgment, he clearly
is attempting to use this Petition to gain the opportunity to counter-claim for
breach of contract and damages. Se~e, Defendant's Petition to Open
Judgment, paragraph 18. To allow the defendant to reopen this matter will
completely circumvent the Pennsylvania Rules of Civil Procedure.
IV. CONCLUSION
WHEREFORE, Plaintiff prays that This Honorable Court deny
defendant's Motion to Open Judgment.
Respectfully submitted,
,4BOM & KUTUL4KIS, L.L.P.
Jasdla P. Kutulakis
CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
AND NOW, this 22th day of August, 2001, I, Jason P. Kutulakis,
Esquire, hereby certify that I did serve a true and correct copy of the
foregoing PLAINTIFFS BRIEF IN SUPPORT OF THEIR
OPPOSITION TO DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO REOPEN THE
JUDGMENT upon Sally Winder, Esquire, Defendant, first class mail at the
following:
Sally Winder, Esquire
701 East King Street
Shippensburg, PA 17257
ABOM & KUTULAKIS, L.L.P.
Aa~ P. Kutulakis
I.D. it' 80411
8 South Hanover Street, Suite 204
Carlisle, PA 17013
Attorney for Plaintiff
Jun-01-01 07:G1A
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NAME and ADDRESS
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THIS'IS TO NOTIFY YOU THAT:
" Judgment .... _ FOR PT. AI~IFF
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~ Judgment was entered for: (Name) ~~i~R~ ~ ~,~. n~Tr.r.T~c ...........
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~ Judgment was entered against: (Name) ~
in the amount of $ 3: ~ ~. s7 on: (Date of Judgment)
~ Defendants are jointly and severally liable. (Date & Time)_
~ Damages will be assessed on- Amount of Judgment
Judgment Costs $ ......~7.. 60
~Thi~ case dismissed without prejudice. Interest on Judgment $ .00
, A~orney Fees $_ .00
Total $
Amount of Judgment Subject to
Atmchmen~Aa $ of 19~6 $ Post Judgment Credits $ ..
Post Judgment Costs $
~ Levy is 'stayed for_ _ days or ~ generally sta~ed. - ......
Certified Judgment Total $
~ Objection to levy has been filed and hearing will be held' ' '
Date Place
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Time:
ANY PARTY HAS THE RIGHT TO APPEAL WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER THE ENTRY OF JUDGMENT BY FILING A NOTICE
OF APPEAL WITH THE PROTHONOTARY/CLERK OF THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS. CIVIL DIVISION. YOU
MUST INCLUDE A'COPY ~~S NOTICE O~-'~UDGMENT/TRANSCRIPT F..QRM WITH YOUR NOTICE OF APPEAL.
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PROTH()NOTARY'S OFFICE
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,. Court House- Carlisle, PA 17013
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In accordance with Rule 236 of the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, this is to notify you
that the following (order) (decree) (judgment) was entered ag:linst you in this office.
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t,-~-',,,,~ =~ me aeanng ~etwccn thz abO~on~ parties.
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_~ At no time did .I wimess Inner Whisler enter into discussions in
,mpt to oas . to this matter b,i
or any uncompl~ comract. J~net Wh' ' -
· . isler never d
n,...s,_ , ....... . ~ or bound
· -~ ~ s m mamti a ssndmound sep~c system and well for the defendant.
To the contrary, Saner Wh/aler infformcd Roger H~lt that she would
have to discuss this mal~r with her husband, Richard Whisler.
To no avail, Roger Hosfelt .c~~ued to auempt to have Sanet Whislcr
commit Whisler's to compromise thcjudgm~.
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NOTARY PUBI~C
My commission
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07/17/01 17-11 TX/Itl N0.2108 P.002
WHISLER'S WELL DRILLING, :IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS '
Plaintiff :OF CUMBERLAND COUNTY,
:PENNSYLVANIA
ROGER HOSFELT, · NO. 2001-1830 CIVIL TERM
Defendant ·
DEFENDANT'S BRIEF IN SUPPORT OF PETITION TO OPEN JUDGMENT, or
ALTERNATIVELY, ALLOW FILING OF A NOTICE OF APPEAL
FROM DISTRICT JUSTICE COMPLAINT NI~C PRO TUNC
Statement of the Case. Defendant Roger Hosf¢lt file this Petition to either Open
Judgment or Allow Filing of A Notice of Appeal Nunc Pro Tunc on or about June 1,
~001, with r¢~t to a District Justice Judgment which was filed in thc Prothonotary's
Office in early April 2001. Facts are recited in thc Petition concerning thc reason for thc
passage of time until this Petition was filed June 1. ~001. Thc issue before the Court is
whether or not thc Defendant/Petitioner has shown good cause for not timely filing his
Notice of Appeal and whether or not hc may have a meritorious defense which would
justi~ thc Court opening thc Judgment or Allowing an Appeal such that the equitable
powers of the Court arc exercised in the interest of promoting a fair and equitable
resolution of this dispute between thc parties.
The Court has discretion in granting equitable relief and permi~g a waiver of
strict enforcemem of the Rules of Court where it appears that the Plaintiff/Respondent
will not suffer prejudice and where fairness requires that the Court exercise its discretion
to grant such petitions and motions as presented here. This discretion is granted the Court
in Pa. R.C.P. Rule 1003. Waiver of Rules. Extension of Time ..... "The Court on cause
shown may extend or shorten the time within which pleadings shall be filed or process
served."
AUG 2 2 mO1
Argument. Defendant Roger Hosfelt believes that the Court should grant relief and open ' '
the Judgment and Allow an Appeal Nunc Pro Tunc based upon the facts alleged in
Defendant's Petition and further supported by the Deposition of Roger Hosfelt when he
relates on page 15 ( lines 6 through 24) that he was under the misapprehension that this
matter was resolved and that there was an agreement to complete the contract originally
emered into between Whisler's and Hosfelt. It was only after the appeal period had nm
and the Notice sero from the Prothonotary's Office that Defendant became aware of any
unresolved issue with Whisler's. Defendant clearly thought he had resolved the matter
with Whisler's and that there was no need to file an appeal or deal with the judicial
system any fianher. See Hosfelt deposition page 25. lines 8 through l 5. a copy of which is
attached. This Court may exercise its discretion in granting or denying the kinds of
petitions filed in this action. In the r n ' v F r r ' ( Pa. Super.
1990) 580 A.2d 374. case the Court stated "We must evaluate appellant's claim of error
within the constraints of the abuse of discretion stan~d." ( at page 375). The late filing
of answers and counterclaims has been upheld where extensive periods of time have
passed and the late filing party, has not shown a cause or reason for such a delay. In this
case. the Defendant Petitioner has clearly shown his cause and reason for not filing a
notice of appeal from District Justice Judgment. He clearly believed that he had settled
the matter and he anticipated that Plaintiff was going to finish the job and that he was
going to pay the whole contract price when the work was completed. He diligently
pursued the matter when he became aware that his understanding might be a
misapprehension. Where a party pursues its legal rights in a manner which does not cause
extensive delays and which dictates that justice requires an extension of time limitations.
the Court should exercise its discretion and permit the fair resolution of a legal dispute
within the framework of the judicial system. In this instance. Defendant has set forth his
belief that the matter was settled and resolved and that he had an agreemem; he was not
represented by counsel at the district justice level: he pursued this matter when he became
aware that Whisler's were not going to honor what he thought was an agreemem and had
in fact emered a judgment. See Allison v. Merris~ 342 Pa. Super. 571. 493 A.2d 738
(1985).
For these reasons. Defendant Roger Hosfelt is entitled to relief from the Court.
Restfully submitted.
Attorney for Roger Hosfelt
701 East King Street
Shippensburg, PA 17257
25
1 Q. Mo re than five?
2 A. Yes.
3 Q. Less than 507
4 A. Yes.
5 Q. And do you understand that you can appeal from
"'~' 6 that hearing?
!.ii~;' 7 A. Yes.
· ~'~ 8 Q. Which means you can get relief; if you don't
· .~ 9 agree with the ruling, you can ask the higher court, the
10 Court of Common Pleas, to give you a new hearing. Do you
· 11 understand that?
-.~ 12 A. Yes. The only reason why I didn"t appeal
13 nothing there was what we had agreed upon right there in
!4 the courtroom wi th Mr. Bender and Mrs. Whisler. I had no
15 reason to appeal that. I took them for their word.
16 Q. So when they-- okay. I'm going to give it to
17 you this way. I'm going to assume that -- I don't know
18 when you received notice and you can't tell me when you
19 received notice of the judgment entered by District Justice
20 Bender, so can we agree that it was around January 25th?
21 A. For what?
22 Q. That the judgment was entered by District
23 Justice Bender.
24 A. No.
25 Q. Do you want to tell me when you think it was
Central Pennsylvania Court Reporting Services
(800) 863-3657 or (717) 258-3657 or courtreporters4u@aol.com
·IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS
WHISLER'S WELL DRILLING, ·OF CUMBERLAND COUNTY,
PLAINTIFF 'PENNSYLVANIA
V. ·NO. 2001-1830 CIVIL TERM
ROGER HOSFELT, .
DEFENDANT ·
PLAINTIFF'S ANSWER TO RULE TO SHOW CAUSE
WHY DEFENDANT IS NOT ENTITLED TO REOPEN
THE JUDGMENT AGAINST DEFENDANT
AND NOW, this 25th day of June, 2001, comes Whisler's Well
Drilling, by and through their counsel, Jason P. Kutulakis, Esquire, of Aborn
& Kutulakis, L.L.P., and answer Defendant's Rule to Show Cause why his
Petition to Open Judgment should not be granted, and is support thereof
avers the following-
1. It is believed and therefore averred that defendant has failed to
plead sufficiently that defendant did not file a timely appeal due to a
breakdown or fraudulent activity within the court system as required by the
Pennsylvania Rules of Court. 42 Pa. C.S.A. § 1002. Goldberg v. Goldbere,
461 A.2d 103 7, 315 Pa. Super. 333 (1983).
2. Defendant has failed to plead that his failure to file a timely appeal
was due to administrative error, negligence or fraud. Goldberg citing
_Conrad v. Kemmerer, 447 A.2d 1032 (1982).
WHEREFORE, plaintiff prays This Honorable Court deny
defendant's Petition to Reopen or Appeal Nunc Pro Tunc and to affirm the
judgment against defendant.
Respectfully submitted,
ABOM & KUTULAKIS, L.L.P.
Jason[ P. Kutulakis
,
CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
AND NOW, this 25th day of June, 2001, I, Jason P. Kutulakis,
Esquire, hereby certify that I did serve a true and correct copy of the
foregoing Answer to Rule to Show Cause upon Sally Winder, Esquire,
Defendant, first class mail at the following:
Sally Winder, Esquire
701 East King Street
Shippensburg, PA 17257
ABOM & KUTULAKIS
8 S th Hanover Street, Suite 204
Carlisle, PA 17013
Attorney for Plaintiff
·IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS
WHISLER'S WELL DRILLING, ·OF CUMBERLAND COUNTY,
PLAINTIFF 'PENNSYLVANIA
V.
· NO. 2001-1530 CIVIL TERM
ROGER HOSFELT, ~
DEFENDANT .
ON TO OPEN JUDGMENT~
....... 'IVELY. ALLOW FILI.,,~-', ~- ...... or
................. ~-- ~V'A NOTICE O
AND NOW, this 25th day of June, 2001, comes Whisler's Well
Drilling, by and through their counsel, Jason P. Kutulakis, Esquire, of Aborn
& Kutulakis, L.L.P., and answerd Defendant's Petition to Open Judgment,
as follows:
1. Admitted.
2. Admitted. By way of further clarification, District Justice Bender was
substituting for District Justice Shulenberger.
3. Admitted in part and denied in part. It is admitted that Janet Whisler
appeared at the hearing on January 25, 2001, as the sole witness for the
plaintiff. It is specifically denied that she is a principle in the business.
Defendant correctly avers in paragraph one (1) of it Petition that Whisler's
Well Drilling is a sole proprietorship.
4. Plaintiff is without sufficient knowledge to answer what defendant
believes, therefore no answer is required. In the alternative, to the extent
that an answer is deemed to be required, it is specifically denied that Janet
Whisler or any other individual informed defendant that she had the
authority to bind the business to contractual obligations. Strict proof to the
contrary is demanded.
5. Denied. It is specifically denied that Janet Whisler, either at the time of
or after the hearing, ever discussed resolution of this matter with defendant.
To the contrary, defendant attempted to resolve this matter however was told
by Janet Whisler that she could not speak for Mr. Whisler. It is further
specifically denied that the claim in question was part and parcel of a total
contract job to be performed by plaintiff and that plaintiff was to complete
any other job. It is admitted that part of plaintiff's claim was for time billed
to defendant for excavating at another location.
6. Admitted.
7. Denied. It is specifically denied that Janet Whisler agreed that Whisler's
would perform any work for defendant. It is further denied that any
agreement was made in the presence of District Justice Bender or at all.
Janet Whisler did not offer to compromise the judgment entered before
District Justice Bender.
8. Plaintiff is without sufficient knowledge to answer what defendant
believes, therefore no answer is required. In the alternative, to the extent
that an answer is deemed to be required, it is specifically denied.
9. Denied. It is specifically denied that Janet Whisler agreed that Whisler's
would perform any work for defendant.
10. Plaintiff is without sufficient knowledge to answer what defendant
believes, therefore no answer is required. Furthermore, the averments
contained in paragraph ten (10) of the Petition are conclusions of law to
which no answer is required. In the alternative, to the extent that an answer
is deemed to be required, it is specifically denied.
11. Plaintiff is without sufficient knowledge to answer what defendant
believes, therefore no answer is required. Furthermore, the averments
contained in paragraph eleven (1 !) of the Petition are conclusions of law to
which no answer is required. In the alternative, to the extent that an answer
is deemed to be required, it is specifically denied.
12. Admitted in part and denied in part. It is admitted that defendant was
notified of the judgment by postcard dated March 29, 2001. Plaintiff is
without sufficient knowledge when defendant received the notice.
13. Plaintiff is without sufficient knowledge to answer whether or not
defendant attempted to reach plaintiff, therefore no answer is required.
14. Denied. It is specifically denied that defendant did not speak with a
representative of Whisler's. To the contrary, defendant did speak with Ken
Whisler, who specifically declined defendant's offer to engage Whisler's in
a contract to resolve the claim against defendant.
15. Plaintiff is without sufficient knowledge to answer whether or not
defendant went to D.J. Bender's office, therefore no answer is required. It is
specifically denied that D.J. Bender requested Whisler's to contact
defendant.
16. Admitted in part and denied in part. It is admitted that defendant called
Ken Whisler and Ken told defendant that Whisler's would not compromise
the judgment entered by D.J. Bender. It is specifically denied that Janet
Whisler entered into any agreement or contract with defendant.
17. Denied. It is specifically denied that defendant could not have filed an
appeal on the thirtieth (30th) day. He was informed by plaintiff that they
would not be performing any work for him, period. He has plenty of notice
and opportunity to file an appeal.
18. The averments contained in paragraph eighteen (18) are conclusions of
law to which no response is required. To the extent that an answer is
deemed necessary, it is specifically denied that there are any counter claims
possible in this matter. If there were, they would have been raised at the
district justice level.
19. Plaintiff is without sufficient knowledge to answer whether or not
defendant has had perspective buyers. It is specifically denied that the well
is not completed. To the contrary, Adams Well Drilling has completed that
job.
20. The averments contained in paragraph eighteen (18) are conclusions of
law to which no response is required. To the extent that an answer is
deemed necessary, it is specifically denied that there are any affirmative
defenses in this matter.
21. Admitted in part and denied in part. It is admitted that defendant
attempted to contact Whisler's to attempt to resolve the judgment against
him. It is specifically denied good faith efforts are a defense for failing to
file a timely appeal. It is denied that Janet Whisler entered into a contract
with defendant.
22. Admitted.
WHEREFORE, plaintiff prays This Honorable Court will deny
defendant's Petition to reopen or grant a Nunc Pro Tunc Appeal.
Respectfully submitted,
ABOM & KUTULAKIS, L.L.P.
8 uth Hanover St., Suite 204
Carlisle, PA 17013
(717) 249-0900
: IN TIlE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS
· WHISLER'$ WELL DRILLING, : OIr CUMBERLAND COUNTY,
PLAINTIFF : PENNSYLVANIA
V. ~
: NO. 01-1830 CIVIL TERM
ROGER HOSFELT, :
DEFENDANT :
I, Kenneth. W~$tlcr, hereby verify that the f'a~ts set forth in the
foresoing -Answer 'are true and correct to the best of. my knowledge,
Information and belie~.
I unde~tand t~t false statements herein am made subject to the
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pennltles of 18 Pa, C.$. §4904, relating to unswom falsification to
authorities. ,
Ke eth Whisler
CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
AND NOW, this 25th day of June, 2001, I, Jason P. Kutulakis,
Esquire, hereby certify that I did serve a true and correct copy of the
foregoing PLAINTIFF'S ANSWER TO PETITION TO O
JUDGMENT, or ALTERNA~,~~ ~ ....... PEN
.. · v s~x, ALLOW FILING OF A NOTICE
OF APPEAL FROM DISTRICT JUSTICE COMPLAINT NUNC PRO
TUNC upon Sally Winder, Esquire, Defendant, first class mail at the
following:
Sally Winder, Esquire
701 East King Street
Shippensburg, PA 17257
ABOM & KUTULAKIS
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8 S uth Hanover Street, Suite 204
Carlisle, PA 17013
Attorney for Plaintiff
WHISLER'S WELL · IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF
DRILLING, · CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA
Plaintiff ·
v. · CIVIL ACTION- LAW
ROGER HOSFELT, ·
Defendant · NO. 01-1830 CIVIL TERM
ORDER OF COURT
AND NOW, this 4th day of June, 2001, upon consideration of Defendant's
Petition To Open Judgment, or Alternatively, Allow Filing of a Notice of Appeal from
District Justice Complaint Nunc pro Tunc, it is ordered that:
1. A Rule is issued upon Plaintiff to show cause why Defendant is not entitled to
the relief requested;
2. Plaintiff shall file an answer to the motion within 21 days of the date of this
order;
3. The petition shall be decided under Pa. R.C.P. 206.7;
4. Depositions shall be completed within 49 days of the date of this order;
5. Argument shall be held on Wednesday, August 29, 2001, at 2'30 p.m., in
Courtroom No. 1, Cumberland County Courthouse, Carlisle, Pennsylvania.
6. Briefs shall be submitted at least seven days prior to argument.
j slay Oler, r.~ j.tf t~,' ·
Jason Kutulakis, Esq.
8 South Hanover Street
Suite 204
Carlisle, PA 17013
Attorney for Plaintiff
Sally J. Winder, Esq.
701 East King Street
Shippensburg, PA 17257
Attorney for Defendant
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WHISLER'S WELL DRILLING, · IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS
Plaintiff, ' CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA
vs
· ' NO. 2001-1830 CIVIL TERM
ROGER HOS FELT, .
Defendant. ·
10 Deposition of. KENNETH WHISTLER
11 Taken by' Defendant
12 Before. Amy R. Fritz, Notary Public
13 Registered Professional
Reporter
14 Date. July 18, 2001, 10'00 a.m.
15 Place. Abom & Kutulakis
16 8 South Hanover Street,
Suite 204
17 Carlisle, Pennsylvania
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APPEARANCES.
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ABOM & KUTULAKIS, L L P
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BY. JASON P. KUTULAKIS, ESQUIRE
23 FOR - PLAINTIFF
BY' SALLY j. WINDER, ESQUIRE
24 FOR - DEFENDANT
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2 DEPONENT EXAMINAT I ON
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STIPULATION
2 It is hereby stipulated by and between the
3 respective parties that signing, sealing, certification and
4 filing are waived; and that all objections except as to the
5 form of the question are reserved until the time of trial.
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7 KEN WHISLER, called as a witness, being duly
8 sworn, was examined and testified as follows.
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EXAMINATION
11 BY MR. KUTULAKIS.
12 Q. You're Ken Whisler, W-h-i-s-l-e-r. Is that
13 right?
14 A. That's correct.
15 Q. And how are you employed?
16 A. Whisler,s Well Drilling.
17 Q. And Dick and Janet Whisler are your parents?
18 A. That's correct.
19 Q. And you know Mr. Hosfelt from a previous working
20 relationship?
21 A. That's correct.
22 Q. And the only thing we're here for
23 today -- you've been sitting here for Mr. Hosfelt's
24 deposition -- is whether or not this case should be
25 reopened following the hearing that took place on January
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1 25th of 2001. I'm going to direct your attention back to
2 about that point in time. Your mother, Janet Whisler, you
3 had her attend a hearing before -- it was at District
4 Justice Shulenberger,s office in Newville but District
5 Justice Bender presided. Is that right?
6 A. That's right.
7 Q. Why did you have her attend that hearing?
8 A. At the time, she was secretary; everybody was
9 working and we figured instead of losing a day of work, we
10 would let her do it.
11 Q. Is she your bookkeeper, or what does she do for
12 the business?
13 A. She answers the phone, does inventory, things of
14 that nature.
15 Q. And who made the decision to have her attend
16 that hearing?
17 A. I think it was my father.
18 Q. And that's Dick Whisler?
19 A. Yes.
20 Q. Who's the owner of Whisler's Well Drilling?
21 A. My father, Richard Whisler.
22 Q. Are you familiar with the daily workings of the
23 business?
24 A. Now? I am, yes.
25 Q. When did you become -- well, let me ask you
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2 primarily responsible for drilling the wells for the
3 business?
4 A. That's correct.
5 Q. At some point in time you started to merge out
6 of that. What are your responsibilities now?
7 A. Now I do collecting bills, selling jobs, running
8 jobs.
9 Q. Are you--
10 A. Basically everything that needs taken care of.
11 Q. So you' re managing the business?
12 A. At this point in time, yes.
13 Q. When did you really start doing that? Was it
14 the beginning of this year or last year?
15 A. I would say it's been a year and, I would say,
16 three or four months, that nature, maybe a year.
17 Q. But just because you're managing it, your father
18 still has a significant role in making the decisions of the
19 business?
20 A. I run every-day operations. If there's a
21 problem, he comes to me and I go to the guys.
22 Q. And when you say a problem, a problem on-site?
23 A. Anything that he sees that he doesn't like or
24 dislike throughout the course of the day.
25 Q. And you take care of the employees?
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1 A. Yes.
2 Q. Back in November of 2000 Mr. Hosfelt informed us
3 that you have an employee, Ron, the excavator. What's
4 Ron's last name?
5 A. Armold.
6 Q. A-r-m-o-l-t?
7 A. A-r-m-o-l-d, I believe, yes.
8 Q. That he delivered some sand to lot number 9 in
9 Deer Crossing Estates November of 2000. Are you aware of
10 that?
11 A. Yes.
12 Q. Did you contract with Mr. Hosfelt to have that
13 sand delivered at that site?
14 A. No.
15 Q. Did your father contract to do that?
16 A. No.
17 MS. WINDER. I object.
18 BY MR. KUTULAKI S:
19 Q. Back in November, did your mother or anybody
20 else contract to deliver sand there?
21 MS. WINDER' I object.
22 THE DEPONENT: No.
23 BY MR. KUTULAKI S:
24 Q. How did it come to have the sand -- what we'll
25 do here, Ken, is we're going to let Ms. Winder object as
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1 much as she wants to and then you can go ahead and answer
2 anyway. Okay?
3 Back in November of last year the sand was
4 delivered to lot number 9, Deer Crossing Estates. How did
5 that come to be? What's your understanding of that?
6 A. My personal understanding of that is we were
7 working next door on lot number 8 and Ron was there running
8 equipment. Roger came to him, said I want to get the sand
9 in on lot number 9 before winter sets in so when I build,
10 we can finish the septic and it doesn't matter what time of
11 the year it is. And I think there was specific questions
12 about that earlier.
13 Q. And once the sand is on-site, you believe that
14 you can go ahead and have the sand mound put in at any
15 time?
16 A. The sand mound can be installed as long as it is
17 not wet. Once the sand is hard -- freezing does not effect
18 it once the sand is hard.
19 Q. Are you familiar with the installation of sand
20 mounds?
21 A. Yes.
22 Q. Why would the.sand -- is there any other reason
23 the-sand would have been delivered in November other than
24 what you explained here already?
25 A. Well, I certainly wouldn't know why I would
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1 deliver sand and not get paid for it for a year and a half
2 on my own accord.
3 Q. Was the sand delivered last winter or the winter
4 before? Do you remember?
5 A. Well, it wasn't this past winter. I believe it
6 was the winter before.
7 Q. So it would have been '99?
8 A. It's been awhile. And winter is not a good time
9 to be setting a big amount of money in the construction
10 business of any sort.
11 Q- Following -_ let me ask you this. January 25th
12 after the hearing before District Justice Bender did you
13 talk to your mother that day?
14 A. Yes.
15 Q. Back at the office?
16 A. Yes.
17 Q. Did she inform you what happened at the hearing?
18 MS. WINDER. I would object. That's hearsay.
19 BY MR. KUTULAKIS.
20 Q. You can answer that.
21 A. My mother came home from the hearing.
22 Q. Did she come home or come to the office?
23 A. Came to the office from the hearing. And I
24 guess they had their hearing, and that was pretty much the
25 end of it until we had the notice from District Justice
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1 Bender.
2 Q. And you said Mr. Hosfelt and your mom before
3 District Justice Bender had the hearing regarding this
4 matter?
5 A. Right.
6 Q. What did she tell you was the outcome of the
7 hearing?
8 MS. WINDER. I would object. That's hearsay.
9 THE DEPONENT. She really didn't say.
10 BY MR. KUTULAKiS.
11 Q. Did she tell you that she entered into a
12 contract with Mr. Hosfelt?
13 A. No. Nor would she.
14 Q. Did she tell you that she had any conversation
15 with Mr. Hosfelt regarding __
16 MS. WINDER. I'll object.
17 MR. KUTUL~Is. I'll just give her an ongoing
18 objection regarding hearsay, if that's okay, so we can
19 continue.
20 BY MR. KUTUI2kKiS.
21 Q. Did your mother tell you regarding any
22 conversations she had with Mr. Hosfelt regarding this
23 matter and a contract or relationship that he had proposed
24 that day?
25 A. The day of the hearing, I wouldn,t know what
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21 And at that point in time, my dad was in the backgrounu,
22 he said, and he said, we're not doing no more work.
23 Q. Why not?
24 A. He did not pay his bill, I don't need the
25 aggravation. And this stems back from some other stuff.
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1 Q. Does it stem back to some of the other stuff I
2 asked Mr. Hosfelt about where you had to collect money at
3 his bar and other times you had problems?
4 A. We didn't get paid for the full amount on some
5 of that. Roger wouldn't show up on job sites until late
6 morning and then expect my guy to sit there and wait on him
7 for two hours and then not want to pay us for it, things of
8 that nature.
9 Q. Your father made a decision that he's capable of
10 making as the owner that he didn't want to do any more
11 work?
12 A. Absolutely.
13 Q. Was that the first time you heard about doing
14 work on lot number 9?
15 A. No. The sand was the first when I realized that
16 my guy had hauled the sand in on lot number 9.
17 Q. Did you talk to Mr. Hosfelt about putting in a
18 sand mound and well?
19 A. I have never seen a septic design for lot number
20 9 yet or have I still. I only have the septic papers for
21 the sand.
22 Q. Do you have septic designs for other lots other
23 than --
24 A. Absolutely.
25 Q. Are you familiar with them?
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1 A. Absolutely.
2 Q. Well, are you familiar with them because you
3 have to coordinate employees to go do those jobs and make
4 sure you have materials?
5 A. Absolutely.
6 Q. Are you aware of all the other septic designs
7 you have for pending jobs?
8 A. Yes.
9 Q. Can you explain why you wouldn't be aware of
10 having a septic design for lot number 9?
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11 A. No.
12 Q. To the best of your knowledge, does Whisler's
13 excavation have septic design for lot number 9?
14 A. To the best of my knowledge, no.
15 Q. Did Ron Armold ever tell you that he received--
16 MS. WINDER' I would object as hearsay.
17 BY MR. KUTULAKIS.
18 Q. -- the septic design from-- it's not being
19 offered for the truth of the matter; it's being offered to
20 show the conduct afterwards.
21 MS. WINDER. I still object.
22 THE DEPONENT' I never had-- whenever the
23 septic is designed, in which it's paid for by the person
24 that owns the lot, they have a design. The person that
25 designs that septic comes out and stakes it off. So there
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1 were actual stakes in the ground where the septic was to
2 go.
3 At that point in time, my understanding was that
4 Ron was working on this lot. Roger said, hey, let's get --
Q. And you're saying lot number 8?
6 A. Lot 8. Let's get the sand in lot 9 so I can
7 continue on with this house right through the winter.
8 Q. Did Ron ever tell you that he was provided a
9 septic design for lot number 9?
10 A. No, nor have I ever seen one.
11 Q. How long has this Ron worked for you folks?
12 A. I'm going to say approximately seven or eight
13 years.
14 Q. Is he reliable?
15 A. Yes.
16 Q. If he were given important paperwork such as a
17 septic design, would he be reliable to give it to you?
18 A. Yes.
19 Q. Does Ron have the ability to contract on behalf
20 of Whisler's Excavation or Well Drilling?
21 A. Ron makes decisions about the jobs on the job
22 that he's on.
23 Q. Does he have. the ability to bind Whisler's to do
24 jobs?
25 A. No, absolutely not.
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1 Q. Who has that authority?
2 A. At this point in time my father and myself.
3 Q. None of the other employees have that?
4 A. Absolutely not; nor have they ever, to the best
5 of my knowledge.
6 Q. The stakes that you speak of regarding the
7 septic system on lot number 9, I asked you to go out and
8 photograph that property from the road, didn't I?
9 A. Urn-hum.
10 Q. And you did that?
11 A. Yes.
12 Q. And you observed the well had been put in?
13 A. Yes.
14 Q. I didn't ask you to, nor did you bring those
15 pictures for today's purposes?
16 A. No.
17 Q. You still have them?
18 A. Yes.
19 Q. Do you recall getting a telephone call from
20 Mr. Hosfelt regarding this matter?
21 A. Yes.
22 Q. And I think you already testified that you told
23 him that your father wasn't interested in contracting to do
24 any more work for him?
25 A. Yes, that's correct.
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1 Q. Do you remember when that was? Can you give us
2 a month? Let's say January.
3 A. No. It was March or April, I believe.
4 Q. Can you give us a-- if I said was it around
5 Valentine's Day, would you say it was closer to that or
6 closer to St. Patrick's Day or closer to Easter or closer
7 to Memorial Day? Are you able to link it to one of those?
8 A. It would be in the late winter to spring would
9 be the time of year.
10 Q. For you that's clear. Just for the record and
11 the Court, you say late winter early spring?
12 A. I would say March, April, sometime in that
13 range.
14 Q. Do you believe it could have been before March;
15 it could have been February?
16 A. It could have been.
17 Q. It could have been before February?
18 A. No, I don't believe it was before February.
19 Q. Is there any doubt in your mind that you told
20 Mr. Hosfelt that he couldn't or that you wouldn't do any
21 more work for him, period? Is there any doubt about that?
22 A. There's no doubt about that.
23 Q. Did you have the opportunity to discuss this
24 matter with your mother, Janet Whisler?
25 A. Did I or do I still?
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1 Q. Have you had the opportunity to discuss this
2 with her?
3 A. I have discussed it with her.
4 Q. And did you --
5 A. She said that she would never go over.my
6 father's head in terms of --
7 Q. Contracting?
8 A. Answering for him in a business sense. And I
9 know that to be fact. That's not just an employee, but
10 also a family member.
11 Q. And by that, just so we' re real clear, did she
12 indicate to you whether or not she agreed at any point in
13 time to perform any other contractual work on lot number 9
14 for Mr. Hosfelt?
15 MS. WINDER' I object.
16 THE DEPONENT: Absolutely not.
17 BY MR. KUTULAKI S:
18 Q. She told you that?
19 A. She told me that, as did District Justice
20 Bender.
21 MS. WINDER' And I object. I believe that's
22 hearsay.
23 MR. KUTULAKIS' I'll acknowledge an ongoing
24 objection without agreeing to it.
25 BY MR. KUTULAKIS:
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1 Q. You had a conversation with District Justice
2 Bender?
3 A. Yes.
4 Q. And did he inform you whether or not he observed
5 Mr. Hosfelt and your mother talking before, during and
6 after a hearing on January 25th?
7 A. Yes, he did.
8 Q. Did he acknowledge whether or not he observed
9 your mother agree to Mr. Hosfelt's proposed resolution to
10 the case?
11 A. He told me that at no time did he --
12 MS. WINDER. I object.
13 THE DEPONENT. -- hear my mother enter into a
14 contract, verbal or otherwise, in his courtroom that day.
15 BY MR. KUTULAKIS.
16 Q. Have you ever been before District Justice
17 Bender on any other hearings?
18 A. No.
19 Q. Have you been before District Justice
20 Shulenberger?
21 A. Yes.
22 Q. How many times?
23 A. I would say roughly four or five times.
24 Q. Regarding the invoices submitted to Mr. Hosfelt
25 for the work done, I want to direct your attention to the
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1 excavation that's been acknowledged to be completed
2 satisfactorily in Franklin County. Are you aware of
3 whether or not invoices were sent for those jobs?
4 A. To the best of my knowledge, yes, they were
5 sent.
6 Q. Did you send invoices out to Mr. Hosfelt for the
7 sand that was delivered?
8 A. To the best of my knowledge, yes, they were
9 sent. The sum is on the judgment.
10 MS. WINDER. Objection.
11 THE DEPONENT. That was all already
12 predetermined at the last hearing.
13 BY MR. KUTULAKIS.
14 Q. Before that were invoices sent out?
15 A. Yes.
16 Q. And you're aware of that because you're familiar
17 with the business operations?
18 A. Yes.
19 Q. It's your responsibility to, in fact, collect
20 accounts receivable?
21 A. Yes.
22 Q. So you would have knowledge of whether or not
23 invoices were sent, etcetera?
24 A. Yes.
25 Q. You called them sieve papers?
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1 A. Yeah. Well, they' re --
2 Q. Explain this real quick. Is that just the
paperwork you get to certify that it's DEP-approved sand
4 for sand mounds? Is that essentially what that means?
5 A. Yes.
6 Q. Did you or did Ron, the excavator, Armold, did
7 he receive sieve papers when he picked up the sand for
8 Mr. Hosfelt?
9 A. Yes.
10 Q. Do you know where that stuff is right now?
11 A. Yes.
12 Q. If Mr. Hosfelt were to pay you the outstanding
13 amount due, would you be willing to give him those sieve
14 papers?
15 A. Yes.
16 Q. And the reason you're holding the sieve papers
17 is because the ongoing problems that you've had with
18 Mr. Hosfelt regarding payment of bills?
19 A. Yes.
20 Q. In particular in this case?
21 A. Yes.
22 Q. Did you at any time ever tell Mr. Hosfelt not to
23 appeal this case?
24 A. Did I ever tell Mr. Hosfelt not to appeal this
25 case?
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1 Q. Yes.
2 A. No.
3 Q. Did you ever tell him something to the effect of
4 don't worry about appealing, we'll take care of you or
5 anything of that nature?
6 A. No.
7 Q. Do you know of any reason why he shouldn't have
8 appealed if that was what he desired to achieve?
9 A. If he wanted to appeal, he's a grown man.
10 Q. Did any employee of your office, to the best of
11 your knowledge, inform Mr. Hosfelt that he should not
12 appeal because that Whisler's Well Drilling Excavation
13 would be completing a job on lot number 9?
14 A. Nobody in my company told him not to appeal
15 anything.
16 Q. I don't have anything further. Let me just ask
17 you this. I'm going to show you Plaintiff's Exhibit A.
18 Does that look familiar to you at all?
19 A. Yes. It's a judgment.
20 Q. And have you seen these before?
21 A. Yes.
22 Q. Does it acknowledge the time frame in which to
23 appeal this particular case?
24 A. Yes.
25 Q. Does it say 30 days? Well, it speaks for
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1 itself.
2 Did you go to the Court of Common Pleas here in
3 Carlisle to execute the judgment against Mr. Hosfelt?
4 A. Yes.
5 Q. And when did you do that?
6 A. 3/29/01.
7 Q. And you' re basing that on the exhibit we've
8 marked as Plaintiff's Exhibit B?
9 A. Yes.
10 Q. Did you do that yourself?
11 A. Yes.
12 MR. KUTULAKIS. That ' s al 1.
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14 BY MS. WINDER:
15 Q. Mr. Whisler, you acknowledge you've been the
16 manager of Whisler's Well Drilling for approximately one
17 year. Is that correct?
18 A. Yes, ma'am.
19 Q. And you would have been working on lot 8 at Deer
20 Crossing prior to that time. Is that also a fair
21 statement?
22 A. At the time lot 8 was being done, I was drilling
23 wells at that time, yes.
24 Q. So you weren't the general manager?
25 A. Not at that time.
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1 Q. So there would have been no reason why
2 Mr. Hosfelt would give you the septic design papers at that
3 point?
4 A. Not at that point in time, that's correct.
5 Q. And you weren't sending out invoices at that
6 time, were you?
7 A. No, ma'am, I was not.
8 Q. And at this point; although you are the general
9 manager -- and as part of that job you oversee collection
10 of invoices?
11 A. That's part of my responsibilities, yes.
12 Q. Do you actually mail out the invoices?
13 A. Yes, I have. I have mailed out invoices.
14 Q. Do you generally do all of the invoices
15 yourself?
16 A. No, ma'am, I do not.
17 Q. Who does those?
18 A. Well, my secretary mails them out. I oversee
19 them.
20 Q. So the secretary is responsible for that?
21 A. They do inventory. They do payroll. They do
22 general basic office procedure.
23 Q. Who is the secretary?
24 A. Marie Bitner and my mother.
25 Q. How long has Marie Bitner been a secretary?
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1 A. I don't think it's been longer than a year. I
2 believe at the time, actually, Kathy Kyle may have been the
3 secretary.
4 Q. Do you know how to spell that?
5 A. No, I do not.
6 Q. So she was also employed as a secretary by
7 Whisler's Well Drilling at the time that, what, lot 8 was
8 being done? Is that what you' re saying?
9 A. It may have been after that even. It may have
10 just been my mother.
11 Q. So it was around that time that -- it may have
12 been shortly after that? Is that what you're saying?
13 A. It's been a couple of years. It's hard to put a
14 number on it. But I would say either my mother or -- well,
15 my mother has always been a part of, you know, part of the
16 office. So I would have to say my mother.
17 Q. Are you saying she, at that time, would have
18 been responsible for preparing invoices and then mailing
19 them out?
20 A. My mom would be the supervisor over the
21 secretarial type of things. Do you understand what I'm
22 saying?
23 Q. She would be in the office?
24 A. Yes.
25 Q. Every day?
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1 A. Yeah.
2 Q. And she would take phone calls and requests or
3 orders for jobs?
4 A. Service business, yeah. You need somebody
5 answering the phone.
6 Q. And if I were a contractor and I called and said
7 I need to have something excavated, I need a machine for
8 two or three hours to do such and such a job, she would
9 take that information and make that arrangement?
10 A. She would write down on a work order, like a
11 little note, a message to myself or my father or whoever
12 was going to call that person back, give us the note; and
13 then we would call that person, set up a time and ask them
14 because she doesn't get into the operation on the job sites
15 or anything like that; she strictly stays with the message
16 taking, things of that nature; And then we call the person
17 back and we set up with them.
18 Q. Did you always have some other secretary in the
19 office?
20 A. Not at all, no, not all our life.
21 MR. KUTULAKIS. I'm going to object to the form
22 of the question.
23 THE DEPONENT. Not all our life.
24 MS. WINDER' I have no other questions.
25 MR. KUTULAKIS. Nothing else.
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4 I, AMY R. FRITZ, R.P.R., a Court
5 Reporter-Notary Public authorized to administer oaths and
6 take depositions in the trial of causes, and having an
7 office in Carlisle, Pennsylvania, do hereby certify that
8 the foregoing is the testimony of KENNETH WHISLER.
9 I further certify that before the taking of
10 said deposition the witness was duly sworn; that the
11 questions and answers were taken down stenotype by the said
12 Reporter-Notary, approved and agreed to, and afterwards
13 reduced to computer printout under the direction of said
14 Reporter.
15 I further certify that the proceedings and
16 evidence are contained fully and accurately in the notes
17 taken by me on the within deposition, and that this copy is
18 a correct transcript of the same.
19 In testimony whereof, I have hereunto
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WHISLER'S WELL DRILLING, · IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS
Plaintiff,
' CUMBERLAND COUNTY PENNSYLVANIA
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ROGER HOS FELT, .
Defendant. ·
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10 Deposition of. ROGER L. HOSFELT
11 Taken by. Plaintiff
12 Before. Amy R. Fritz, Notary Public
13 Registered Professional
Reporter
14 Date. July 18, 2001, 8' 50 a.m.
15 Place. Abom & Kutulakis
16 8 South Hanover Street,
Suite 204
17 Carlisle, Pennsylvania
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APPEARANCES.
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ABOM & KUTULAKIS, L.L.p.
22 BY. JASON P. KUTULAKIS, ESQUIRE
23 FOR - PLAINTIFF
BY' SALLY j. WINDER, ESQUIRE
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INDEX TO TESTIMONY
DEPONENT EXAMINATION PAGE
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12 PLAINTIFF DESCRIPTION
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13 A Judgement dtd 1/25/01 by DJ Bender 12
14 B Notice of Judgement dtd 3/29/01 13
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1 ROGER L. HOSFELT, called as a witness, being
2 duly sworn, was examined and testified as follows.
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4 MR. KUTULAKIS. Just so we're clear, we can
5 proceed, I guess, under regular standard stipulations?
6 MS. WINDER' Which would be what?
7 (Whereupon, the reporter recited the
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9 MS. WINDER. We will agree to that.
10 STIPULATION
11 It is hereby stipulated by and between the
12 respective parties that signing, sealing, certification and
13 filing are waived; and that all objections except as to the
14 form of the question are reserved until the time of trial.
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16 MR. KUTULAKIS. And just so we're clear before
17 we start, are you proceeding as if this is your deposition
18 at this time, or do you want me to proceed on cross?
19 MS. WINDER. You requested the deposition, so I
20' think it's your deposition.
21 MR. KUTULAKIS. All right.
22 EXAMINATION
23 BY MR. KUTULAKIS.
24 Q. Mr. Hosfelt, do you want to state your full name
25 for'the record?
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1 A. Roger Leroy Hosfelt.
2 Q. And how are you employed?
3 A. Self.
4 Q. You're self-employed?
5 A. Yes.
6 Q. Where is the address that your business is
7 located?
8 A. 119 Southside Drive, Newville, Pennsylvania
9 17241.
10 Q. And the nature of that business is a general
11 construction business?
12 A. Yes.
13 Q. How long have you been the proprietor of that
14 business?
15 A. Since '97.
16 Q. /%nd you've utilized Whisler's Well Drilling
17 Excavation numerous times prior to this incident involving
18 excavation at lot 9 Deer Crossing Estates. Is that right?
19 A. Yes.
20 Q. And you've used them to install other septic
21 systems and wells for your various construction sites?
22 A. Yes.
23 Q. Have you had problems with payments being made
24 to Whisler's in the past?
25 A. No.
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1 Q. You've never had outstanding bills to Whisler,s
2 in the past that went before any kind of formal court
3 setting?
4 A. No.
5 Q. In your petition, you indicate -- I'm going to
6 direct your attention back to January of this year during a
7 hearing because the only issue we're really looking at is
8 whether or not the judgment entered by Distri.ct Justice
9 Harold Bender should be reopened due to the fact that the
10 appeal date, which would have been about February 24th or
11 25th, ran, why it ran and whether or not the judgment
12 should be reopened.
13 You were at the preliminary hearing on January
14 25th, right?
15 A. Yes.
16 Q. And District Justice Bender was substituting for
17 Helen Shulenberger in Newville for that hearing. Is that
18 right?
19 A. Yes.
20 Q. And in your petition you indicate that --well,
21 first of all, you understand a judgment was entered against
22 you in this case in the amount of $2,012.877 Do you
23 understand that?
24 A. Yes.
25 Q. And it's your contention that you .and Janet
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2 A. Yes.
3 Q. That she entered into some kind of negotiation
4 with you to contract to install a sand mound and well and
5 compromise the judgment that was entered by District
6 Justice Bender. Is that right?
7 A. Yes.
8 Q. In fact, I think you state in your petition that
9 at the convening of the hearing and through the hearing it
10 indicates that you negotiated this with Mrs. Whisler in
11 front of District Justice Bender?
12 A. Yes.
13 Q. And I assume that if this goes to blows and we
14 go into court before Judge Oler you would have District
15 Justice Bender come in and testify as a Witness for you?
16 A. Yes.
17 Q. And what would District Justice Bender tell us?
18 MS. WINDER' I would object.
19 THE DEPONENT. I have no idea what he would say.
20 BY MR. KUTULAKIS.
21 Q. Well, is it your contention -- let me ask you
22 this. District Justice --
23 A. Can I just say something?
24 Q. Sure.
25 A. During the course of the hearing, Mrs. Whisler
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1 was present and the -- we were negotiating over the sand
2 mound septic and the well. And also there was a small
3 labor cost on two different other jobs, which I never did
4 get a bill on them. And after the hearing, she told me
5 that she would definitely send me a bill, and I still have
6 never got that excavating bill. I told her I would agree
7 to pay that excavating bill at any time. I never got that.
8 And way prior to that Kenny Whisler and I
9 talked. In fact, we met at another establishment, and we
10 tried to get this thing worked out, put the sand mound in.
11 And really it wasn't between Kenny and I; it was Dick and I
12 that agreed upon these sand mounds.
13 Q. Just so the record is clear, when you say
14 Dick --
15 A. Dick Whisler. The gentleman, I guess, that owns
16 the property.
17 Q. He owns the business, rather?
18 A. Well, the business, yeah. Anyhow, at the
19 hearing, Mr. Bender asked me if I had any problems with
20 Whisler's to put the sand mound in, put the well in. I
21 said, I have no problem with that at all, go ahead and put
22 it in; I'll pay you upon completion of the sand mound with
23 the inspection and With the well being done and good water.
24 Q. Now, was Mrs. Whisler present?
25 A. Yes. Mr. Bender asked me this, if I would do
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2 okay. And I had no problem with that, and she had no
3 problem with that. She said that they would put it in but
4 they couldn't put it in right away because they were busy.
5 And I said it was wet weather, and I said, well, at your
6 earliest convenience, go ahead and put it in.
7 Q. So it's your testimony that District Justice
8 Bender kind of acted as a mediator for you?
9 A. Yes.
10 Q. And that whatever he accomplished was something
11 to the effect that they would put the sand mound and well
12 in for -- I think you even put in your pleadings here, for
13 the cost of $8,5007
14 A. Yes. They put three other sand mounds and wells
15 in for $8,500. I've got cancelled checks on. those when I
16 paid them when they were done. And th'e reason why that
17 they dumped the sand there was their employee, Ron -- I
18 think that's his name. Yeah, I know it was Ron.
19 Ron, when he was hauling the sand in for the lot
20 right beside that, he said about this next one because
21 we're getting ready to dig it. I said, yes, go ahead. He
22 had all the sand in, go ahead and put it in. Winter set in
23 on us, bad weather. You can't put it in in bad weather.
24 So then it went into the next spring and they
25 never came back and didn't come back and put it in. And
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1 that's when Ken called and wanted money for the sand. I
2 said, I'm not paying you for the sand until you complete
3 the job. And that's when it stopped right there.
4 Q. And it's your testimony that Janet Whisler
5 accepted what you say District Justice Bender proposed?
6 A. Yes.
7 Q. Would it surprise you-if I told you that
8 District Justice Bender said that that couldn't be farther
9 from the truth?
10 A. Well, then he would be lying.
11 Q. District Justice Bender would be lying?
12 A. Yes.
13 Q. Why would he do that?
14 A. Oh, I don't know.
15 Q. If I told you he signed an affidavit saying that
16 was nothing further from the truth--
17 A. He can sign anything he wants to sign. I was
18 there as God as my witness; Mrs. Whisler was there, and she
19 agreed upon putting that in. I don't lie. I have no
20 reason to lie.
21 Q. Well, you have $2,000 outstanding.
22 A. I've paid much bigger bills than that.
23 Q. I'm sure you do.
24 Now, this sand that you're talking about, you
25 say that one of the Whisler employees with a first name Ron
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1 was delivering a sand mound to a site adjacent to lot 9?
2 A. Yes.
3 Q. And what were they doing at that site there?
4 Were they putting a sand mound in there?
5 A. Yes.
6 Q. And you asked him to, while he was getting the
7 sand for the adjacent lot, to go ahead and get you sand for
8 lot 9?
9 A. No. He said that he had part of a day left, are
10 we going to be putting the next sand mound in. I said,
11 yes. He said, do you mind if I haul the sand in here to
12 finish the day up. I said, I have no problem with that.
13 Q. So it's your testimony that he's the one that
14 suggested hauling the sand in?
15 A. Yeah, because we were just going from lot to lot
16 to lot. We were going up one street and putting them in;
17' then we were on the next street, putting them in, going
18 right back out again.
19 Q. Do you have any kind of purchase order or
20 anything of that nature for that material?
21 A. No. They bill me when the job is done.
22 Q. Any written contract for any of the jobs?
23 A. No. There was never a written contract for any
24 of them. Dick Whisler and I agreed upon it when we first
25 started that development over there on Antler Court. And I
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1 got the canceled checks from the other ones that I paid,
2 and that was the agreed-upon figure.
3 Q. Is that a development that you exclusively build
4 in, or are there other builders?
5 A. No. Anyone can build in it.
6 Q. How many homes did you build in that Antler
7 Court?
8 A. Everything on Antler Court. I built everything
9 on Antler Court.
10 Q. But other builders could have built if they so
11 chose?
12 A. Yes.
13 Q. How many homes would that be?
14 A. Five.
15 Q. Is Antler Court a Part of a larger development?
16 A. Yes. Deer Crossing Estate.
17 Q. How many homes did you build in Deer Crossing?
18 A. I'm building my tenth one right now.
19 Q. So that would have been five other ones in the
20 remainder of Deer Crossing then? If you had five in Antler
21 Court, do you have five in the remainder of Deer Crossing,
22 or do you have ten additional in Deer Crossing?
23 A. That I have built or total lots that's
24 available?
25 Q. No, that you built.
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1 A. Yes.
2 Q. Five and five?
3 A. Five and five. Whisler's done them all but
4 three.
5 Q. Who did the other three sites?
6 A. They're just under construction right now.
7 Q. Do you have written contracts with those folks?
8 A. No.
9 Q. So the three sites that you speak of, all three
10 are under way at some point in time here?
11 A. They're under construction right now.
12 Q. Now, January 25th a judgment was entered-- was
13 a judgment entered on the 25th against you at the time of
14 the hearing, or was it suspended until a later time?
15 A. Oh, I don't know.
16 Q. Do you recall receiving notice that judgment was
17 entered against you?
18 A. No.
19 (Plaintiff' s Deposition Exhibit 'A was marked. )
20 BY MR. KUTULAKIS:
21 Q. I'm going to show you what we'll go ahead and
22 mark as our Exhibit A. I'm going to show you the judgment
23 entered by District Justice Bender on behalf of Helen
24 Shulenberger. Do you recall receiving that document?
25 A. Yes. That wasn't there at the hearing. That
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1 was after that.
2 Q. Do you remember when you received it?
3 A. No.
4 (Plaintiff.s Deposition Exhibit B was marked.)
5 BY MR. KUTULAKIS.
6 Q. I'm going, to show you this document we've marked
7 as Exhibit B. Do you recall receiving this document titled
8 Prothonotaries Office at the top and it's a notice of the
9 judgment dated March 29th, 20017
10 A. I can't remember if I got that or not. I
11 remember getting that.
12 Q. Okay.
13 A. But I'm not sure about this.
14 Q. Do you remember what prompted you to contact
15 Ms. Winder?
16 A. Yeah. When I stopped in Mr. Bender and asked
17 him -- when I tried to get a hold of Whisler's, I called a
18 couple different times and talked to either a secretary or
19 whoever was answering the phone for them. .And I wanted
20 either Dick or Ken to get back in touch with me because I
21' wanted to know when we were going to put this sand mound in
2,2 and the well in, and no one ever returned my phone call.
23 So I finally got a hold of them one day when I
24 was leaving the development down there, and I was talking
25 to Ken. And Ken said, I don't know, I've got to talk to my
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1 dad. And they negotiated, and he come back, and he said,
2 Rog, Dad said no and my hands are tied and I can't do it.
3 And I said, well, you know, I've got to get
4 something done here. I said, your mother agreed upon
5 putting the sand mound in and this well in and I agreed
6 upon paying her at .completion.
7 Q. Did you ever contract with Mrs. Whisler in the
8 past?
9 A. I'm sorry?
10 Q. Did you ever contract with Mrs. Whisler in the
11 past?
12 A. Did I contract with her?
13 Q. Yes.
14 A. What do you mean?
15 Q. Did you ever enter into a contract with
16 Mrs. Whisler in the past?
17 A. Well, yes, if I called in there and talked to
18 her if she answered the phone. If I ordered equipment or
19 whatever, she's the one that took the order and whoever
20 took charge from there.
21 Q. What equipment did you order from Whisler's?
22 A. Well, they used to do all my excavating work.
23 They used to do all my high-lift work, all my backhoe work.
24 Q. When you say you ordered equipment, do you mean
25 you ordered services from them?
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1 A. Yeah.
2 Q. Because they don't sell excavation equipment?
3 A. No.
4 Q. And you said you called in and talked to
5 Mrs. Whisler; I interrupted you there. Did you finish what
6 you wanted to say?
7 A. No. You asked me about Mrs. Whisler. Your
8 question that I was trying to answer and you changed it was
9 that why I contacted Sally Winder was because of when Ken
10 said no he wouldn't do it -- because that was the agreement
11 that Mrs. Whisler and I had the day that we were in there
12 with Mr. Bender.
13 Because he was the one that asked me if I had a
14 problem with them finishing it, and I said no, I didn't
15 have a problem with them finishing it; why should I,
16 they've done all my other ones. I had no problems with
17 their work or their service so just go ahead and finish it.
18 Q. Isn't it true that, in fact, in front of
19 District Justice Bender Mrs. Whisler said something to the
20 effect of that she"d have to talk to Dick before she could
21 agree to do that?
22 A. No.
23 Q. She didn't say that?
24 A. No.
25 Q. If I told you District Justice Bender is
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1 prepared to testify to that effect, as well as Mrs.
2 Whisler, both of them would be lying too?
3 A. Well, that wouldn't -- we agreed upon that in
4 their courtroom or whatever you want to call it. Why would
5 I have any reason to doubt either one of them when
6 Mr. Bender is the one that asked me at the very beginning
7 if I would accept them doing the services over there and I
8 said yes?
9 Q. Would both of them being lying then?
10 A. Well, yes, they would be.
11 Q. And you indicated that you--
12 A. Because from the very beginning if they weren't
13 going to do it, well, then, I would have went on and had it
14 done.
15 Q. Well, why would she compromise a judgment she
16 just received in front of District Justice Bender?
17 A. I have no idea.
18 Q. You indicated in your pleadings that you called
19 and spoke to Ken Whisler the some point in time?
20 A. Yes.
21 Q. Do you remember when that was?
22 A. I don't know. Probably about April.
23 Q. And what did he tell you during that
24 conversation?
25 A. He said I got to talk to my dad. He was there
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1 talking to him. I could hear him in the background. And
2 he come back on the phone and said nope, Dad won't do it.
3 Q. And Dad, just so the record is clear, is Dick
4 Whisler?
A. Yes.
6 Q. And he's the sole proprietor of that business?
7 A. Yes, I guess.
8 Q. You have no reason to disbelieve that if I told
9 you he was the sole proprietor?
10 A. No. I've dealt with Dick throughout all-the
11 years.
12 Q. Number 8 says that you weren't represented at
13 the hearing before District Justice Bender. Is that right?
14 A. That's right.
15 Q. And you appear to be relying on the fact that
16 because you didn't have counsel with you that was to a
17 disadvantage for you?
18 A. Excuse me?
19 Q. I don't understand the purpose of your Pleading
20 Number 8. Would you like to look at it? I don't see that
21 you have a copy.
22 A. So what's the question?
23 Q. I'm confused about the purpose of Pleading
24 Number 8 in your petition to reopen this case. It says
25 that you weren't represented by counsel. Are you saying
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1 that you were at a disadvantage because of that?
2 A. Well, I took Mrs. Whisler and Mr. Bender at
3 their word. And when we agreed upon doing the sand mound,
4 septic and the well, that I expected for them to do it.
5 Q. But the purpose by saying you weren't
6 represented is what?
7 A. I didn't have no one there to represent me.
8 Q. So do you feel you were at a disadvantage?
9 A. Yes.
10 Q. Mrs. Whisler wasn't represented either?
11 A. No.
12 Q. In fact, Dick Whisler wasn't present at that
13 hearing at all?
14 A. No.
15 Q. And the only witness they had was Mrs. Whisler
16 presenting the facts of the case?
17 A. Yes.
18 Q. In your pleadings here, Number 5 talks about
19 this claimant issue here, this $2,000 is part of two jobs;
20 one is dealing with the sand mound on lot 9, which we've
21 already talked about, and the other one deals with
22 excavation done at another location. I assume that was the
23 one in Franklin County?
24 A. Yes.
25 Q. And you admit that money is owed and the job is
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1 completed regarding the excavation?
2 A. Yeah. I told Mrs. Whisler that day of the
3 hearing in front of Mr. Bender to go ahead and send me a
4 bill on that, I'll pay you for the excavation, and I never
5 got a bill on that yet.
6 Q. How long have you been building? Since 19977
7 A. No. Under Roger Hosfelt Construction, yes.
8 Since 1988.
9 Q. Quite some time?
10 A. Yes.
11 Q. You're familiar with sand mounds and the costs?
12 A. Yes.
13 Q. Are you able to generally guess the cost of the
14 sand that was delivered to lot 9?
15 A. Can I guess?
16 Q. Yeah, estimate.
17 A. On how much sand?
18 Q. The cost of it.
19 A. Oh, yes. It's the same size as the one we put
20 in lot 10, within a couple of inches.
21 Q. How much was that?
22 A. The whole cost or the cost of the sand?
23 Q. Just the cost of the sand that's there now.
24 A. About $950.
25 Q. And Whisler'$ are claiming that there's an
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1 outstanding cost due of approximately $2,000, right?
2 A. That's what they' re saying, yes.
3 Q. And if you were to subtract $950 from that, you
4 would be left with roughly a thousand dollars which I think
5 you can assume is the bill for the excavation done on the
6 site in Franklin County?
7 A. No. The job in Franklin County, she said there
8 was one for 100 and some dollars and there's one for almost
9 $200 or something like that. I don't know exact numbers.
10 Yes, I did agree wi th her that there were two
11 small jobs done down there, and I never received a bill on
12 them. -I asked her to send me a bill, and she's never sent
13 me a bill on them.
14 So the difference between the two small
15 excavating jobs in Franklin County and the cost of the sand
16 I would say is profit.
17 Q. You make profit on your jobs?
18 A. Yes.
19 Q. You' re not debating whether or not they should
20 make some profit?
21 A. When the job is completed, yes. Every man is
22 entitled to make money. That job was never completed.
23 Q. Did you ever enter into a contractual
24 relationship with Dick Whisler for the sand mound and well
25 to be put on lot 9?
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1 A. Did I do what?
2 Q. Did you ever enter into either an oral or a
3 written contract with Dick Whisler to put in the sand mound
4 and well on lot number 9 at Deer Crossing Estates?
5 A. We never entered into a written contract on no
6 job on Antler Court or Deer Crossing.
7 Q. Did you speak to him over the phone or in person
8 about entering into a contract on lot number 9 Deer
9 Crossing Estates?
10 A. When we were over there doing lot 16, I took
11 Dick over and showed him where lot 8 was and where lot 9
12 was; Kenny and his other guys were putting the well in at
13 the time. And Dick and I went over there, and I showed him
14 where the two sand mounds were going in.
15 And at that time -- he used to put them in for
16 me for $7,500. And then he come back to me when we started
17 over there; he said, we got to put them in at $8,500
18 because the cost of sand went up. I said, right, I have no
19 problem with that. I said, I know the DER-approved sand
20 did go up.
21 So then we went down there to lot 8. I showed
22 him where the perC was to put the lot 8 in, and I showed
23 him where the perc was on lot .9. And we were just sitting
24 there in his vehicle, and he looked at them, and he said,
25 when are we going to start these. I said, whenever we come
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1 off the other street over there.
2 Q. Was that before or after the sand was delivered?
3 A. That was before. We were still on Antler Court.
4 Then he went over there, and we started lot 8. When we
5 were done with lot 8, we moved right on to lot 9. And I
6 paid him for lot 8 when it was done.
7 I mean, Kenny is sitting right here. He drilled
8 the well from job to job to job. They put the sand mounds
9 in from job to job to job, just kept right on continuing.
10 Q. Lot number 9 has a well installed at this time,
11 right?
12 A. Yes. It does now.
13 Q. When was that installed?
14 A. 5/20/01.
15 Q. By Adams --
16 A. Yes.
17 Q. -- Well Drilling.
18 Now, in your pleading petition to reopen that
19 you verified on May 31st, you indicate that the septic and
20 well were not yet installed. Was that a mistake?
21 A. On what date?
22 Q. Well, I'll show it to you. This is your
23 pleadings. The last page is the verification. You signed
24 it and dated it May 31st indicating that the well had not
25 yet been installed.
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.. 1 A. It wasn't completed, no.
2 Q. It wasn't completed. When was it completed?
3 A. I would say about three weeks -- no, about a
4 month ago.
5 Q. So it took them a month to get the well in?
.6 A. Well, they had an accident.
7 Q. What kind of accident did they have?
8 A. They rolled the well driller over.
9 Q. So they pulled the well driller on-site and set
10 up the tower on MaY 20th?
11 A. Right.
12 Q. And then pulled it off site and went somewhere
13 else?
14 A. Yes.
15 Q. And rolled the rig and never came baCk to finish
16 it until --
17 A. No. They drilled that, but they didn't have the
18 pump in or the line in or none of that.
19 Q. But the well was in?
20 A. Yeah. The hole was in the ground.
21 Q. And it was sleeved?
22 A. Yes. But upon completion. It's not completed
23 until the water is in the house.
24 Q. Did you sell that house yet?
25 A. No.
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1 Q. It says in your pleadings that it's on the
2 market and you've had several interested buyers but none of
3 them have made offers. Is that right?
4 A. Th,at's right.
5 Q. Do you have names of those people?
6 A. No. The realtors don't give me names; they just
7 call and set up the showing. I never ask for no names.
8 Q. How many showings did they make?
9 A. Altogether? I really don't know.
10 Q. Mo re than five?
11 A. Oh, yes.
12 Q. More than 50?
13 A. No.
14 Q. Have you ever been to a hearing before a
15 district justice in the past?
16 A. Yes.
17 Q. Have you ever won or lost a hearing in front of
18 them?
19 A. Both.
20 Q. Are you aware how long it takes or how long you
21 have to appeal a case following a judgment?
22 A. No.
23 Q. How many times have you been before a district
24 justice?
25 A. I don't know exactly.
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1 Q. More than five?
2 A. Yes.
3 Q. Less than 507
4 A. Yes.
Q. And do you understand that you can appeal from
6 that hearing?
7 A. Yes.
8 Q. Which means you can get relief; if you don't
9 agree with the ruling, you can ask the higher court, the
10 Court of Common Pleas, to give you a new hearing. Do you
11 understand that?
12 A. Yes. The only reason why I didn"t appeal
13 nothing there was what we had agreed upon right there in
14 the courtroom with Mr. Bender and Mrs. Whisler. I had no
15 reason to appeal that. I took them for their word.
16 Q. So when they-- okay. I'm going to give it to
17 you this way. I'm going to assume that -- I don't know
18 when you received notice and you can't tell me when you
19 received notice of the judgment entered by District Justice
20 Bender, so can we agree that it was around January 25th?
21 A. For what?
22 Q. That the judgment was entered by District
23 Justice Bender.
24 A. No.
25 Q. Do you want to tell me when you think it was
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1 entered?
2 A. I don't know. You asked me that, and I don't
3 know.
4 Q. I'm going to show you what we've marked as
5 Exhibit Number 1. You acknowledged that you received that.
6 Is that right?
7 A. Right.
8 Q. On the bottom of that there's a signature by
9 Harold Bender. Do you see that there?
10 A. Yes.
11 Q. Do you see the date that's there?
12 A. 1/25. And then there's something 3/15, yes.
13 Q. When no equipment arrived to your job site on
14 February 24th, did you contact Ms. Winder?
15 A. No, because when you put a sand mound and septic
16 in, you can't put it in in bad weather, mud, etcetera. And
17 it was still wintertime. You can't put the sand mounds in
18 on either mud or frozen ground.
19 Q. Do you recall if it was muddy or frozen?
20 A. No, I don't remember.
21 Q. Can you drill a well in January?
22 A. Yes.
23 Q. Was there any Whisler Well Drilling equipment
24 there around February 24th?
25 A. No.
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1 Q. Or before?
2 A. No.
3 Q. You indicate here that you anticipated the work
4 to be done in this case in March or April. Is that right?
5 A. Yes.
6 Q. Well, March 31st rolled around, did you file an
7 appeal?
8 A. No.
9 Q. Did you contact Whisler's?
10 A. Tried to.
11 Q. Weren't successful?
12 A. No.
13 Q. When's the first time Ken Whisler or anybody
14 from Whisler's, in your mind, told you that they weren't
15 doing this job?
16 A. When I contacted Mr. Bender and Sally Winder.
17 Q. And do you recall when that was?
18 A. No.
19 Q. April 30th rolls around, Whisler still don't
20 have equipment there, did you file an appeal?
21 A. No.
22 Q. Any particular reason?
23 A. No.
24 Q. Would it be fair to say you contacted Ms. Winder
25 after April 30th?
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1 A. I'm not sure exactly when that was.
2 Q. Do you recall, wasn't it in November of 2000 --
3 I think it was 2000, now-- that the sand was hauled into
4 your lot number 9?
5 A. It would have been about November, yes.
6 Q. Why was that hauled in before wintertime?
7 A. Why was it hauled in before wintertime? Because
8 they were going to start it, because that was the next job
9 that was going to be under construction.
10 Q. Well, you said that you can't put a sand mound
11 in in the wintertime.
12 A. No, you can't.
13 Q. Why would they deliver sand -- why would you
14 have sand there if you can't work on a sand mound if that's
15 what the goal was?
16 A. You can't put a sand mound in in the wintertime
17 if the ground is frozen. If the sand is on the site where
18 the plot is and the perc is, yes, you can go ahead and
19 install the sand mound.
20 That's why they put the sand in there on the
21 job, and that would have been the next one started. Now,
22 if it would have been froze over, if the ground would have
23 been froze over, they couldn't have started it.
24 Q. When's the first time. you contacted Whisler's to
25 ask them to pUt the sand mound in after the sand was
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2 A. I didn't. I mean, I never contacted any of the
3 other jobs. They just went ahead and done them.
4 Q. Well, isn't it true that the sand was delivered
5 at your request and the sand mound wasn't put in because
6 you never contracted with them? Isn't that the way it
7 goes?
8 A. No.
9 Q. Now, you said something that -- I was a little
10 confused. If the sand is on the site, it's okay to put the
11 sand mound in as long as the sand is on the site?
12 A. Yes.
13 Q. Now, why wouldn't you-- if the sand is
14 delivered in November, why wouldn't you be contacting
15 Whisler's from November until the first time you contacted
16 them -- well, you say you never did put the sand mound in.
17 A. When we were in that development over there, we
18 went from job to job to job. There were several times they
19 pulled in the job, they pulled back out, they had other
20 commitments at other places, they would come back in.
21 As long as they stayed up with me -- I had the
22 holes dug -- and were doing the construction, that's just
23 the way it went. I mean, that's part of construction. So
24 it's not like, you know, we have to have a deadline when
25 the sand mound had to be in or the well had to be in. On
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1 the Antler Court, that whole street over there, they pulled
2 in on the job and pulled off the job if they had to, and
3 there was never no contact back and forth then.
4 Q. Didn't you do most of your negotiations through
5 Ron; you know, Ron, here, the next lot is ready, come work
6 on it?
7 A. Well, they all knew. Dick knew, Kenny knew, Ron
8 knew.
9 Q. Did you do most of your negotiation, you know,
10 in informing Ron, hey, here's another lot, let's get going
11 on this sand mound, it's ready to go?
12 A. Well, Dick already knew that that was the next
13 lot.
14 Q. Did you do most of your negotiation or contact
15 wi th Ron, the excavator?
16 A. No.
17 Q. You indicate in your pleadings that you
18 attempted to contact Whisler's by telephone but you weren't
19 able to do that. Do you remember when you tried to contact
20 them?
21 A. No.
22 Q. Did you have this -- on lot number 9, you still
23 haven't sold that house. Do you have a completion date
24 that you had to have that house done?
25 A. Do what?
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1 Q. Back in November when the sand was delivered,
2 did you have a completion date that you had to have the
3 house done?
4 A. No.
5 Q. And you didn't have a completion date to have a
6 sand mound in either?
7 A. No.
8 Q. How long did you expect Whisler's to sit on a
9 materials list before you had requested them to complete
10 the sand mound?
11 A. If they would have come in and done the sand
12 mound and completed it and put the well in, they would have
13 already been paid. It wasn't the issue of they just had to
14 dump the sand there and wait for whenever. It was go ahead
15 and put the sand mound in, go ahead and put the well in,
16 they get paid.
17 Q. And your testimony is that you had a contract
18 with Whisler's for $8,500 for a complete job including sand
19 mound and well, or was the sand mound separate from the
20 well?
21 A. Sand mound and well.
22 Q. And really I keep getting astray from what we're
23 supposed to be focusing on is whether or not this should be
24 reopened. Forgive me if I've asked this. Did you say you
25 had no idea that you had 30 days to appeal this case?
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1 A. I'm sorry?
2 Q. Did you say that you had no idea that you had 30
3 days only to appeal this case?
4 A. That's right, yes.
5 Q. Did anybody inform you that you had more time to
6 appeal it?
7 A. No.
8 Q. Did you ever contact an attorney to ask about
9 what to do with this judgment?
10 A. No.
11 Q. Did District Justice Bender inform you that you
12 had a right to appeal this decision?
13 A. No.
14 Q. So he wouldn't have informed you that you had
15 the time in which to appeal either?
16 A. No.
17 Q. So just so I'm clear, it's your testimony that
18 both District Justice Bender and Janet Whisler and
19 potentially Ken Whisler would all be lying if they came in
20 and said District Justice Bender never witnessed or heard
21 and Janet Whisler never entered into any agreement with you
22 to put in the sand mound or well, to negotiate the
23 judgment?
24 A. He's the one who started the negotiation, if I
25 would let them finish the job if they would agree upon it,
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1 and Mrs. Whisler agreed upon it.
2 Q. If I told you that that's not what the testimony
3 would be if this comes to court, they would be lying?
4 A. Yes.
5 Q. So everyone involved in this case except for you
6 would be lying. Is that what you're saying?
7 A. Is everybody lying?
8 Q. Well, District Justice Bender, Janet Whisler and
9 Ken Whisler would all be lying?
10 A. Ken Whisler was not there.
11 Q. Ken Whisler, in fact, told you to the contrary
12 that, in fact, Whisler's would not do the job and they
13 never entered into an agreement with you. Isn't that
14 right?
15 A. No, that's not right. If they would never have
16 agreed upon putting the sand mound in, why would they dump
17 sand there?
18 Q. Well, that's a good question. And I'm going to
19 tell you right now that my question to you is -- I've asked
20 it already-- is you asked Ron, the excavator, to dump the
21 sand there.
22 A. No. He asked me if he could start hauling sand
23 in to finish the day out because they're moving to the next
24 lot.
25 Q. So if he were to come in and testify that, in
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1 fact, you asked him to dump the sand there, he would be
2 lying too?
3 A. Well, yes, because he said to me.
4 Q. So now we have District Justice Bender, Janet
5 Whisler and Ron, the excavator, they're lying. Is that
6 right?
7 A. Yes.
8 MR. KUTULAKIS. I don't have anything further.
9 EFu%MINAT ION
10 BY MS. WINDER:
11 Q. Mr. Hosfelt, you did, in fact, contact District
12 Justice Bender at some point. Is that correct?
13 A. Yes.
14 Q. Do you recall what it was that led you to
15 contact him?
16 A. Because Whisler's would not return my phone call
17 and didn't put a sand mound in and the septic in which they
18 agreed upon doing.
19 Q. Had you received any notice from any source
20 concerning a judgment?
21 A. Just that letter that I got, that Exhibit A or
22 whatever.
23 BY MS. WINDER:
24 Q. In your last answer, you're referring to what's
25 been marked for identification as Exhibit P-A. Is that
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2 A. Yes.
3 Q. When you went to talk to Mr. Bender, where did
4 you talk to him?
5 A. At his office.
6 Q. In Shippensburg?
7 A. Yes.
8 Q. And what was the nature of your conversation
9 wi th him?
10 A. With Mr. Bender was that the Whisler's did not
11 put the well in yet or the septic and that it .was agreed
12 upon that they would put it in and I would pay them upon
13 completion.
14 And then Mr. Bender said, well, I'll try to get
15 a hold of them with that message. And I was standing right
16 there when he called them, and he left a message. I don't
17 know if it was with the receptionist or --
18 MR. KUTULAKIS. I'm going to object based on
19 hearsay.
20 THE DEPONENT. -- I have no idea. Then a couple
21 weeks after that no one ever got back in touch with me yet..
22 So then that's when I stopped back up there again to
23 Mr. Bender's office and told him no one got a hold of me.
24 And then after that I did get a hold of Kenny, and then he
25 told me that, no, they would not put it in. So then I got
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1 a hold of Mr. Bender again, and that's when I got a hold of
2 you.
3 BY MS. WINDER:
4 Q. Did Mr. Bender act as though he were surprised
5 that you thought Whisler's should be contacting you to put
6 in a well and septic?.
7 MR. KUTULAKIS. I'm going to object.
8 BY MS. WINDER:
9 Q. Go ahead and answer the question.
10 A. It's a joke, don't worry about it.
11 Q. Did District Justice Bender act surprised that
12 you were telling him that you thought Whisler's should be
13 putting in the well and septic?
14 A. No, he wasn't surprised. The only thing he said
15 to me was --
16 MR. KUTULAKIS. Again, I'm going to object based
17 on hearsay.
18 Go ahead.
19 THE DEPONENT. He just said to me the second
20 time he asked me, he said, didn't they get back in touch
21 with you yet. I said, no, not yet.
22 BY MS. WINDER:
23 Q. Did he say anything to you about appealing any
24 judgment or decision that he had made in January?
25 A. No.
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2 Whisler's was that these well and septic jobs on the lots
were discussed between you and Dick Whisler. Is that
4 correct?
5 A. Yes.
6 Q. And that he was aware that you were building on
7 lot 8 and lot 9?
8 A. Yes.
9 Q. And that you showed him where the perc sites
10 were for the sand mound systems. Is that correct?
11 A. Yes.
12 Q. And did he have the septic system designs?
13 A. Yes.
14 Q. And in order to install the system, were you
15 required to have a sand mound system design?
16 A. Yes.
17 Q. For each and every lot in Deer Crossing?
18 A. Yes.
19 Q. And where are those septic system designs now?
20 A. Mr. Whisler has them.
21 Q. Now, when you install a sand mound septic
22 system, there's a requirement that it be inspected by the
23 township sewage enforcement officer upon completion. Is
24 that correct?
25 A. Yes.
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1 Q. And before the house can be occupied, the sand
2 mound system needs to be inspected and approved. Is that
3 also correct?
4 A. Yes.
5 Q. Now, when the sand mound system is built, are
6 there any other certifications that are required?
7 A. A sand certification.
8 Q. And who gets that sand certification?
9 A. The people that's hauling the sand in, which
10 Whisler's would get the sand certification paperwork
11 because they're the ones installing the sand.
12 Q. And does that paperwork need to be turned over
13 to you, as the contractor, prior to the system being
14 inspected?
15 A. To the inspector.
16 Q. And who would be the inspect'or?
17 A. Tom Shelly in Southampton and Dan Danner in
18 South Newton.
19 Q. And are those persons that you have named the
20 respective township sewage enforcement officers?
21 A. Yes.
22 Q. Do you have a sand certificate for the sand that
23 was delivered to this lot 9?
24 A. No.
25 Q. Do you know where that sand was purchased?
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1 A. No.
2 Q. And you're saying that you don't have the system
3 design for that lot. Is that correct?
4 A. Whisler's have it.
5 Q. When would the sand mound system design have
6 been provided to Whisler's?
7 A. When they brought the sand-- well, I gave Dick
8 the one for lot 8. And when Ronnie was putting lot 8 in,
9 he asked for the one from lot 9.
10 Q. Did you order the sand for these sand mounds, or
11 was that part of Whisler's job?
12 A. That's Whisler's job.
13 Q. On January 25th of this year at the district
14 justice hearing, did Mrs. Whisler tell the district justice
15 that she represented Whisler's Well Drilling?
16 A. Yes.
17 Q. And that would be Janet Whisler. Is that
18 correct?
19 A. Yes.
20 Q. And did you tell the district justice about the
21 course of conduct previously with Whisler's Well Drilling
22 and the other lots where septic systems had been installed
23 and wells done for one contract price?
24 A. Yes.
25 Q. Did Mrs. Whisler deny that that had been the
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1 course of conduct between you and Whisler's?
2 A. No.
3 Q. Did she agree that had generally been done in
4 the past?
5 A. Yes.
6 Q. You said that at some point Ken Whisler asked
7 you for money for the sand. Am I recalling that correctly?
8 A. Yes.
9 Q. Do you remember when that was in relationship to
10 any of the other matters that you've testified to today?
11 A. No.
12 Q. You can't relate that to any particular date or
13 put it in a series of events?
14 A. I can't remember the date when he and I talked,
15 no.
16 Q. And you answered a question by Mr. Kutulakis, I
17 believe, that you had contracted with Janet Whisler before
18 by ordering certain excavating work from Whisler's Well
19 Drilling. Is that correct?
20 A. Yes.
21 Q. And she had handled those transactions with you?
22 A. Yes.
23 Q. Over the phone?
24 A. Yes.
25 Q. And the work had been completed?
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1 A. Yes.
2 Q. And billed?
A. Yes.
4 Q. And paid?
5 A. Yes.
6 Q. And she didn't tell you that she needed approval
7 from anyone else in order to take the order for work?
8 A. No.
9 (Defendant's Deposition Exhibit A was n~arked.)
10 BY MS. WINDER:
11 Q. I'll show you what's been marked for
12 identification as Exhibit D-A, give you an opportunity to
13 look at that.
14 MR. KUTULAKIS. I'll object based on hearsay for
15 any use of this document.
16 (Deponent perusing document.)
17 THE DEPONENT. Okay. What's the question?
18 BY MS. WINDER:
19 Q. Have you had an opportunity to read through this
20 document that's marked for identification as Exhibit D-A?
21 A. Yes.
22 Q. Does it appear to be titled affidavit?
23 A. Yes.
24 Q. And have a signature line underneath which is
25 typed District Justice Harold Bender?
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1 A. Yes.
2 Q. And it appears to have a signature on that line
3 immediately above that typed?
4 A. Yes.
5 Q. And do you see that the contents say that--
6 MR. KUTULAKIS' Again, I'm going to object.
7 BY MS. WINDER:
8 Q. -- the district justice is saying that Janet
9 Whisler didn't agree?
10 A. It says that in that letter, but that's not what
11 was said in the courtroom.
12 Q. So you're saying that's not your recollection of
13 this entire matter?
14 A. Exactly.
15 Q. And that's contrary to what your belief was when
16 you went to talk to Mr. Bender in his office in
17 Shippensburg --
18 A. Yes.
19 Q. -- about this matter?
20 A. Yes.
21 Q. And he never said to you, I have no knowledge of
22 any agreement ?
23 A. No, because he made a phone call to Whisler's
24 that day and either talked to the answering machine or
25 someone.
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1 MR. KUTULAKIS' I'm going to object about
2 whatever was said by District Justice Bender that
3 particular day in question.
4 MS. WINDER' I have no other questions.
5 MR. KUTULAKIS' I have a couple redirect,
6 recross, whatever you call it in this case.
7 EXAMINATION
8 BY MR. KUTULAKIS:
9 Q. There was some discussion just a moment ago
10 regarding a septic design, and you provide the septic
11 design to whoever is going to put the sand mound in?
12 A. Yes.
13 Q. And you indicate on lot number 8 that you
14 personally gave a septic design to Dick Whisler?
15 A. Yes.
16 Q. And at some point in time Ron, the excavator,
17 came to you and asked you for a design for lot 9?
18 A. Yes.
19 Q. Where is that design?
20 A. They have it.
21 Q. Did you give it to Ron?
22 A. Yes.
23 Q. What day?
24 A. I have no idea.
25 Q. Do you have a copy of it?
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1 A. Yes.
2 Q. Do you have a copy of the sand mound design for
3 lot number 8?
4 A. Yes.
5 Q. So you keep a copy of that and provide a copy to
6 your subcontractor?
7 A. Yeah. When they draw a design up, you usually
8 get two or three.
9 Q. And who designs that for you? Do you do that
10 yourself?
11 A. No.
12 Q. In this case, lot number 9, you didn't give the
13 design to Dick yourself?
14 A. No. Ron was there.
15 Q. But on lot number 8 you gave it to Dick?
16 A. Yes.
17 Q. And that was completed?
18 A. Yes.
19 Q. Now, you testified that Janet Whisler held
20 herself out to represent Whisler's Well Drilling &
21 Excavation at the hearing before District Justice Bender on
22 January 25th. Is that right?
23 A. Yes.
24 Q. was there context that she characterized her
25 representation? That was just for the hearing before
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1 District Justice Bender, right? Her representation at that
2 time was in the context of the hearing, right?
3 A. Yes.
4 Q. This case is not the first time that Whisler's
5 has had problems collecting outstanding debts from you, is
6 it?
7 A. This is the first time.
8 Q. This is not the first time, is it?
9 A. No. this is the first time.
10 Q. Do you recall a time when Ken -- well, let me
11 ask you this. Strike that. Did you own a bar out toward
12 Carlisle Springs at some point in time?
13 A. Yes.
14 Q. Do you recall an evening when Ken Whisler had to
15 come to that bar to collect an outstanding debt at about
16 11.00 in the evening?
17 A. He came out one evening because there was a
18 couple issues on ours on what was done and which jobs they
19 were. And he came out there, and I said, well, a couple of
20 the jobs aren't even mine, which the one that they done,
21 they billed me, which I was my father's job.
22 So we negotiated through all the jobs upon what
23 was mine and what was Paul Hosfelt and the hours of time it
24 took to put something-- okay. Like, the one issue is --
25 Q. So is it fair to say you negotiated that
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1 evening?
2 A. Yes.
3 Q. So up to that point there was a problem with
4 outstanding debt?
5 A. No, there was no problem. The only thing we had
6 to do --
7 Q. Ken just showed up that night to collect money?
8 A. Yes, because --
9 Q. Just out of the blue?
10 A. No. He called me and he said about paying them
11 on what I owed them. And I said, well, yeah, Ken, but I
12 said there's a couple of issues that I'm billed on that's
13 not right. He said, well, can we sit and go over them. I
14 said, I'll be at the bar tonight. He said, okay, fine; if
15 we can solve the problem, can you pay me. I said, yeah, I
16 have no problem with that.
17 So he came down. And the one bill was -- they
18 done some work on lot 10 which was billed back to my
19 father; then they had it billed to me, which was Paul
20 Hosfelt. And then the other issue was --
21 Q. So lot 10 was yours or your father's?
22 A. My father's.
23 Q. And this all took place sometime last fall, this
24 conversation?
25 A. Yes.
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1 Q. And just so I don't put words in your mouth, you
2 negotiated your problems away on that particular issue?
3 A. Yes, and I gave him the check that night.
4 Q. Would it be fair to say -- strike that.
5 A. I paid Whisler's every time for every job
6 they've ever done for me.
7 Q. Within what time frame?
8 A. Within 30 days.
9 Q. That issue that you met with Ken at your bar
10 last fall, late last fall, was that bill more than 30 days
11 outstanding?
12 A. I don't know.
13 Q. Well, you acknowledge that you owe excavation
14 for the lot in Franklin County?
15 A. Yes.
16 Q. I mean, it's your contention you didn't get an
17 invoice. When was that job completed?
18 A. I don't know.
19 Q. Did you contact Whisler's within 30 days to try
20 to pay that bill?
21 A. No. When Mrs. Whisler was in the hearing, she
22 told me about the two jobs; yes, I agreed upon both jobs.
23 Then she asked me why they were never paid. I said, I
24 never got a bill. Then she told me there that day when we
25 agreed upon putting the sand mound and well in for lot 9
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1 that she was going to send me a bill for the excavation in
2 Franklin County, and I still have not gotten a bill for
3 that.
4 Q. The sand that was delivered in November, you
5 still haven't paid for that and that's more than 30 days
6 past.
7 A. Right. The job has never been completed either.
8 Q. So there's no dispute that the sand is there and
9 it's the appropriate sand?
10 A. I never saw no sand certificate on it.
11 Q. So it might be, it might be some sand that's not
12 appropriate for a sand mound; you don't know. Is that
13 right?
14 A. I'm sure they wouldn't just dump sand in there
15 that wasn't appropriate.
16 MR. KUTULAKIS' I don't have anything further.
17 MS. WINDER' I don't either.
18 (Whereupon, the deposition was concluded at
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1 COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA )
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2 COUNTY OF CUMBERLAND )
4 I, AMY R. FRITZ, R.P.R., a Court
5 Reporter-Notary Public authorized to administer oaths and
6 take depositions in the trial of causes, and having an
7 office in Carlisle, Pennsylvania, do hereby certify that
8 the foregoing is the testimony of ROGER L. HOSFELT.
9 I further certify that before the taking of
10 said deposition the witness was duly sworn; that the
11 questions and answers were taken down stenotype by the said
12 Reporter-Notary, approved and agreed to, and afterwards
13 reduced to computer printout under the direction of said
14 Reporter.
15 I further certify that the proceedings and
16 evidence are contained fully and accurately in the notes
17 taken by me on the within deposition, and that this copy is
18 a correct transcript of the same.
19 In testimony whereof, I have hereunto
20 inscribed my hand this 8th day of August, 2001.
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-"Y~' ~~" ----- PLAINTIFF: C~V~L CASE
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THIS IS TO NOTIFY YOU THAT:
Judgment was entered for: (Name) .w'R'~__T ~T_,RR ' ~ . .W~_!..T. DR TT-T.TMC . ._.
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[~ Judgment was entered against: (Name) ~
in the amount of $ _ 2 .. ~] 2 _ ~? on: (Date of Judgment) _ 1/~.5
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[~ Defendants are jointly and severally liable. (Date & Time)
[~ Damages will be assessed on- Amount of Judgment $~1.925 .~_.?
Judgment Costs $ ......8_'7__... 60
[~ This. case dismissed without prejudice. Interest on Judgment $ .
. Attorney Fees
Total $_ 2 -_0.[_2_ .-
Amount of Judgment Subject to
[ ~ Affachm~nt/Act $ of 1596 $
· Post ,Judgment Credits
Pos1 Judgment Costs $ ...... ~--"
[~ Levy is stayed ~or_ _ days or ~ generally stayed. -
[~ Certified Judgment Total
OIDjectioD ID levy has b~n filed and hearing will be held' "-------'- ~ ---.J
Date' Place: '------'--'---'~
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ANY PARTY MAS 'I'ME FLIGHT TO APPEAl- WI?MIN 3(} DAYS AFTER THE ENTRY OF JUDGMENT BY FILING A NOTI¢I=
OF APPEAL WITH THE PROTHONOTARY/CLERK OF THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS, CIVIL DIVISION. YOU "
MUST INCLUDE A'COPY OF NOTICE RAN$C WI"IH YOUR NOTICE OF APPEAL.
I certify that this is a true and correct copy o/_the record of the proceedings containing the judgment.
3'"' ~'-OI Date '~~c~~ ~' ~~''~/ , District Justice
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PROTH()NOTARY'S OFI,'ICE
· ,, Court House- Carlisle, PA 17013
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In accordance wi~h Rule 236 of ~h¢ Pennsylvania Supreme Court, this is to notify you
that the following (order) (decree) 0udgment) was emered against you in this office.
Plaintiff .,~5/~r ~
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I, Disuict lust/ce I-I~ld Bender, to h/reby swear and affirm thag
substituting for District Sust/ce Shulenberger on San:m_,y 25, 2001, I
presided at the ~ betw~n the above-caption~ parties.
At no time did I witness lanet Whisler enter into discussions in
attemp~ to resolve this oase. She never admitted to this matter bein~ a part
of any na~-ompl~ con~. J'~me~ Whi~l~ nev~ a~'~d or homed
Wlfi-~l~'~ to ~ a ~ta~~d ~l~e sy.~tt~ ~rtd well f~
To the conii-ary, Sanct Whisler informed Roger Hosfelt that she would
have to discuss this matter with her husband, R/chard Whisler.
To no avail, Rog~ Hosfelt can~ued to auempt to have Janet Whislcr
cca~a~it Whisler's to comprom;sc thcjudtpncn~
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07/17/0]. 17-11 TX/PjC NO.2~08 P.002
WHISLER'S WELL DRH~LING, :IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS ' '
Plaintiff :OF CUMBERLAND COUNTY,
:PENNSYLVANIA
ROGER ltOSFELT, : NO. 2001-1850 CIVIL TER~
Defendant
PETITION TO OPEN JUDGMENT, or
ALTERNATIVELY, ALLOW FII~ING OF ~ NOTICE OF APPEAL
FROM DISTRICT JUSTICE COMPLAINT NIJNC PRO TIJNC
COMES now the Defendant, Roger Hosfelt, by and through his counsel, Sally J.
Winder, and does petition this Honorable Court to Open the Judgment entered to the
above-captioned number and term based upon the following'
1. Plaintiff'Respondent, Whisler's Well Drilling, is a sole propdetorship,
having a business address of 366-1 Greenspring Road, Newville, Cumberland County,
Pennsylvania, 17241.
2. Petitioner, Roger Hosfelt, was the named Defendant in a District Justice
claim filed by Whisler's Well Ddlling, filed before District Justice Helen Shulenberger
November 20, 2000. Hearing in this matter was held before District Justice Harold Bender
January 25, 2001.
3. At the hearing held January 25, 2001, Whisler's Well Drilling was
represented by Mrs. Janet Whisler in her capacity as a principal in the business, and there
were no other witnesses or persons claiming to be parties to this action present on behalf
of Whisler's Well Drilling.
4. Petitioner Defendant, Roger L. Hosfelt, was led to believe at that time that
Mrs. Whisler represented the business, Whislcr's Well Drilling, and that she had the
authority to bind the business as to agreements and contracts.
5. On January 25, 2001, both at the time of the convening of the hearing and
after the hearing, Mrs. Whisler discussed resolution of this claim and admitted to
Defendant Roger L. Hosfelt that the claim in question was part and parcel of a total
contract job to be performed by Whisler's Well Drilling ( hereinat~er "Whisler's") which
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was not complete at the time of the hearing, as well as time billed for excavating at
another location done by Whisler's for Hosfelt.
6. The original claim was for sand delivered to a job site in Southampton
Township, Deer Crossing Estates, Lot No. 9 where Petitioner Hosfelt, as general
contractor was building a spec house, plus several hours of excavating time at another
location in Franklin County where Hosfelt was likewise building a house.
7. Petitioner Defendant Roger L. Hosfelt believed that at the time of the
hearing January 25, 2001, it was agreed by Mrs. Whirler and himself in the presence of the
District Justice, Harold Bender, that Whisler's would finish the original contract which
called for installation of the sandmound septic system and the well for the house being
constructed on Lot 9, Deer Crossing Estates, all of which would be completed and the
contract price of $8,500.00 would be paid in full at the time of completion. This contract
payment would include the sand which had been delivered to the job site.
8. Petitioner Defendant, who was not represented by counsel, therefore relied
upon the representations of Mrs. Whirler concerning completion and did not file an appeal
from the District Justice judgement entered January 25, 2001, in the amount of $2,012.87,
a Copy of which is attached hereto marked Exhibit "A".
9. Petitioner Defendant Roger L. Hosfelt and Mrs. Whirler agreed that the
sandmound system would be installed and the well drilled when the Spring weather
allowed for proper installation of both, and anticipated that the work would be done in
March or April 2001.
10. The weather was extremely rainy and wet in the Spring of 200 i in the
month of March and was not suitable of the installation of a sandmound system.
Therefore, Hosfelt did not expect Whisler's to move equipment onto the jobsite and
complete the contract until early April, 2001. In reliance upon the representations of Mrs.
Whisler and with the understanding that she, on behalf of Whisler's had confirmed and
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re-affirmed the contract for installation of the system, Hosfelt did not file an appeal from
the District Justice judgment.
11. Further, in reliance upon the contract, Hosfelt did not request return of the
Department of Environmental Protection paperwork approving the sewage module, the
Township Sewage Enforcement Officer's permit and design for the sandmound system, or
the DEP certification of the sand delivered to the jobsite, all of which remains in the
possession and control of the installer, Whisler's.
12. In early April, 2001, Hosfelt received notice of the filing of the District
Justice judgment by postcard from the Prothonotary's Office of Cumberland County,
Pennsylvania, a copy of which is marked Exhibit "B" attached hereto.
13. At that time, Petitioner Defendant attempted to reach Whisler's by
telephone to discuss the installation of the system and the reason for filing the judgment in
the Court of Common Pleas.
14. Despite numerous attempts to reach Whisler's, Hosfelt was unable to speak
with any one concerning the intentions of Whisler's regarding installation of the system
and drilling of the well.
15. Finally in mid- May, Hosfelt went to District Justice Bender's Office in
Shippensburg to discuss this matter and Mr. Bender agreed to call Whisler's and request
that Whisler's call Hosfelt to discuss this matter.
16. Again, Hosfelt waited several days for Whisler's to call him after being
advised by District Justice Bender that Whisler's would be calling him. After receiving no
call, Hosfelt called and finally reached Kenny Whisler, son of Mrs. Janet Whisler, on the
phone. During that conversation, Hosfelt told Kenny Whisler that his mother had agreed
that the contract would be completed and that Hosfelt had told her that the $8,500.00
contract price would be paid in full as soon as the job was completed. Kenny Whisler told
Hosfelt the job would not be done and he would not release any of the paperwork
including the DEP approval, system design, or sand certification until Hosfelt paid him the
District Justice judgment all of which was contrary to the agreement reached by Hosfelt
with Whisler's in the person of Mrs. Whisler on January 25, 2001.
17. Based upon these averments, Hosfelt believes and therefore states that he
has a meritorious defense to the claim of Whisler's and that but for the reliance upon Mrs.
Whisler's representation that Whisler's would honor the contraCt and install the
sandmound system and well, he would have timely filed a Notice of Appeal from the
District Justice judgment of January 2.5, 2001.
18. Further, Petitioner Defendant Hosfelt has a meritorious counterclaim for
breach of contract and damages arising out of Whisler's failure and refusal to turn over the
various documents which are required to complete the sandmound system and have it
inspected and approved by the Township Sewage Enforcement Officer so that the
property may be sold.
19. The property is presently on the market and several interested Buyers have
not made offers on the property because the septic system and well are not yet installed.
This constitutes the basis for yet additional crossclaims and damages suffered by Hosfelt in
reliance upon Whisler's representations in January 2001, all to the detriment of Hosfelt.
20. Therefore, Petitioner Defendant Hosfelt believes and avers that he has a
meritorious defense to the original claim that he would have timely pursued in Court had
he not relied upon the representations of Whisler's at the time of the District Justice
hearing in January 2001.
21. Further, Petitioner Defendant Hosfelt believes and avers that he has diligently
pursued this matter by attempting to obtain compliance with the re-affirmation of the
contract and agreement reached in January 2001, by attempting to reach Whisler's both
himself and through the District Justice and since May 22, 2001, when Kenny Whisler
refused to honor his mother Janet Whisler's confirmation of the contract, Hosfelt has
diligently pursued his equitable remedies before the Court.
22. Counsel for Petitioner Defendant Hosfelt has notified counsel for
Whisler's, Jason Kutalakis, Esquire by telephone of her intent to file this Petition and
Motion.
Wt~REFORE, Petitioner Defendant Roger L. Hosfelt, prays this Honorable
Court enter an order opening the Judgment docketed to the above-captioned number and
term or that in the alternative, this Honorable Court enter an Order allowing the filing of
an Appeal from District Justice Judgment Nunc Pro Tunc.
Respectfully submitted,
Attorney for Roger L. Hosfelt
701 East King Street
Shippensburg, PA 17257
Telephone (717) 532-9476
VERIFICATION
I verify that the statements made in this Petition are true and correct to the best of my personal
knowledge and belief. I understand that false statements herein are made subject to the penalties
of 18 Pa. C.S. section 4904, relating to unswom falsification to authorities.
Date: ~/~,l/~] ~ T
.,,~,~VE~LTH OF PENNSYLVANIA
.,,,d~'i'y OF: CUMB~.R~ . · NOTICE OF JUDGMENT/TRANSCRIPT
...... Mag, Ois,. No.. · 15LAiNTiFF.: CIVIL CASE · ·
~ NAME and ADDRESS
09 - 3 - 02 ~HISLE~" S WELL DP~ILLING -I
DJ Name: Hon.
366-1 G~.EENSP~ING RD
HELEN B. SHULEN E~GER NEWVILLE, PA 1724=1
~,e~.: P.O. BOX 155
27 W. BIG SPRING AVENUE L_ ._j
NEWVILLE, PA DEFENDANT: VS.
NAME and ADDRESS
~.~.,~o.o: (7-17) 776-3187 172~1 I-HOSFELT, ~OGE~ '-I
115 SOUTHSIDE DR
NEWVILLE, PA 17241
WHISLE~" S WELL D~ILLING L _j
366-1 G~ENSPRING ~D Docket No.' CV- 0000155 - 00
NEWVILLE, PA 17241 Date Filed: 11/20/00,
THIS IS TO NOTIFY YOU THAT:
Judgment.--.- ..
[~ Judgment was entered for: (Name)
[~ Judgment was entered against: (Name)
in the amount of $ _ 9.: nl 9. _ ~7_ on: (Date of Judgment) _ I/9. R/~11
[~ Defendants are jointly and severally liable. (Date & Time)_
[~ Damages will be assessed on' 'Amount of Judgment $_1,925.23'
. . Judgment Costs $ 8?. 6 0
[~ This. case dismissed without prejudice. Interest on Judgment $_ .0 0
· . Attorney Fees $_ .00
Total $_ 2,012.87
[ Amount of Judgment Subject to -
Attachment/Act 5 of 19.96 $ Post Judgment Credits $
[~ Levy is stayed for~ days or [~ generally stayed. Post Judgment Costs $_
Certified Judgment Total $_
[~ Objection to levy has been filed and hearing will be held: .
ANY PARTY HAS THE RIGHT TO APPEAL WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER THE ENTRY OF JUDGMENT BY FILING A NOTICE
OF APPEAL WITH THE PROTHONOTARY/CLERK OF THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS, CIVIL DIVISION. YOU
MUST INCLUDE A'COPY OF
NOTICE ~IUDGMENT/TRANSCRiPT FgRM WITH YOUR NOTICE OF APPEAL
/-~"~'"~-~/ Date ~~'strict Justice
I certify that this is a true and correct ~~.y~o~eedings containing the judgment.
3--1 ~"01 Date~ , District Justice
My commission expires first Monday of January, 2006 SEAL
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PROTHONOTARY 'S OFFICE
· · Court House- Carlisle, PA 17013
In accordance with Rule 236 of the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, this is to notify you
that the following (order) (decree) (judgment) was entered against you in this office.
Plaintiff /~/~j:~//er.~ 1/btt[/ Defendant J{57~~ /¢$~-~/r~ .
· Date Fff:~'~q -tg'/ 19 ~ # O/'-'/~ ~
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( Prothonotary
WHISLER'S WELL · IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF
DRILLING, ' CUMBERLAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA
Plaintiff .
v. ' CIVIL ACTION- LAW
ROGER HOSFELT, ·
Defendant ' NO. 0 !- 1830 CIVIL TERM
__ORDER OF COURT
AND NOW, this 30th day of August, 2001, upon consideration of Defendant's
Petition To Open Judgment, or Alternatively, Allow Filing of a Notice of Appeal from
District Justice Complaint Nunc pro Tunc, and of the briefs submitted by the parties and
the record established pursuant to the order of court dated June 4, 2001, and following
oral argument held on August 29, 2001, Defendant's petition is denied.
BY THE COURT,
Jason Kutulakis, Esq. 1 ~ ~ --
Jay A. Abom, Esq.
8 South Hanover Street
Suite 204
Carlisle, PA 17013
Attorneys for Plaintiff
Sally J. Winder, Esq. ,O~ ~ £' $ ~ o l
701 East King Street (~ '
Shippensburg, PA 17257
Attorney for Defendant
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· IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS
WHISLER'S WELL DRILL~G, ' CUMBEI~AND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA
PLAINTIFF ·
V. · NO. 01-1830 CIVIL TERM
ROGER HOSFELT, .
DEFENDANT .
PRAECIPE TO SATISFY JUDGMENT
TO PROTHONOTARY:
Please mark the judgment in this action against Defendant satisfied.
Respectfully submitted,
ABOM & KUTULAKIS, L.L.P.
Date: April 10, 2002 .................... ~
Sm 204
8 South Hanover Street
Carlisle, PA 17013
717-249-0900
Attorney for Plaintiff